<2021-06-21T23:35:30.000Z> FirebrandJay: Do your shirts tend to run tight or loose? I'm on the margin between small and medium shirts and I get one or the other depending on the fabric.
<2021-06-21T23:36:58.000Z> WoodshopHandman: I recommend the larger size. I've found that they run pretty tight, and you can shrink them a bit if needed since they're cotton.
<2021-06-21T23:38:08.000Z> FirebrandJay: Rad, thanks
<2021-06-21T23:38:26.000Z> WoodshopHandman: np
<2021-07-15T23:29:07.000Z> FirebrandJay: My wife's family were missionaries to an African country when she and her siblings were young. They spent many of their formative years in Africa, and her brother has gotten it into his head that he is an African because he was raised there and that it's "his culture and his people." He's a white bread beta male nerdy guy and a lawyer, just about the farthest thing from the Africans they knew. 
<2021-07-15T23:29:47.000Z> FirebrandJay: I've tried to talk to him about this and it's like talking to a brick wall
<2021-07-15T23:30:35.000Z> WoodshopHandman: You tried telling him that they'd kill him first in a survival situation purely because he's clearly different based on cursory appearance?
<2021-07-15T23:31:36.000Z> FirebrandJay: Something along those lines, yes. It's been a while since I talked to him about this, but I wasn't expecting him to get worse
<2021-07-15T23:34:00.000Z> WoodshopHandman: I don't know what else you could do unless you're willing to show him some of the footage from SA and say: "Look, there's people that have lived there all there lives and they're still being persecuted and hunted in their own homes because they're not 'the same people'. What makes you think you're any different?" You can lead a horse to water, etc.
<2021-07-15T23:35:40.000Z> FirebrandJay: You can lead a horse to water, and if you hold his head under long enough, he's bound to suck something in
<2021-07-15T23:35:50.000Z> WoodshopHandman: LMAO
<2021-07-15T23:35:58.000Z> WoodshopHandman: That's a good way of looking at it
<2021-07-15T23:38:21.000Z> WoodshopHandman: I guess you gotta go whole hog then: Does he plan on having kids? Start showing him that video of that mixed kid crying because she doesn't fit in anywhere, statistics on the health detriments that mixed-race people face, etc. Maybe try to make it so it's about something bigger than himself.
<2021-07-15T23:44:14.000Z> FirebrandJay: My wife is gonna be visiting him and their sister tomorrow and wants to talk with him about it. After that, I'll probably just blow up his phone with that kind of thing until he blocks me or something
<2021-07-15T23:48:52.000Z> WoodshopHandman: I'm guessing your wife and her sister don't share the same views?
<2021-07-15T23:49:07.000Z> WoodshopHandman: with your brother in-law, i mean
<2021-07-15T23:50:01.000Z> FirebrandJay: My wife is on my side in her head, but her heart is very confused by this episode
<2021-07-15T23:50:23.000Z> FirebrandJay: Her sister is young and has no idea what she believes about anything, really
<2021-07-15T23:51:43.000Z> FirebrandJay: Her family as a whole is more likely to agree with her brother because they were all raised with the "no such thing as race" thing by their dad who seems to really believe it
<2021-07-15T23:53:15.000Z> FirebrandJay: My wife is the only one besides me who actually sees the reality of the situation, and since I can't go with her tomorrow, I'm concerned how she'll fare when outnumbered on this by people she cares deeply about.
<2021-07-15T23:54:21.000Z> WoodshopHandman: I'm not sure what else to say at this point other than good luck. I'll gladly help track down any specific memes, media, information, or infographics you feel could help persuade them.
<2021-07-15T23:55:04.000Z> FirebrandJay: Thanks, man
<2021-07-15T23:55:17.000Z> FirebrandJay: For now I'm just internally screaming
<2022-02-19T00:59:32.000Z> FirebrandJay: No joke, though, there's a company in Kansas called Pro-Hoe that makes great garden tools. I have a few of them, and I'm very impressed with how tough they are. They're made of recycled agricultural discs. I highly recommend.
<2022-02-19T00:59:51.000Z> WoodshopHandman: lmao
<2022-02-19T01:00:21.000Z> FirebrandJay: I never lied! I know where to find good hoes in America!
<2022-02-26T23:35:10.000Z> FirebrandJay: Gib etsy link. Also, I want to buy a wooden toy or figure for my son, the semblance of a duck preferred, for a number of United States dollary doos. 
<2022-02-26T23:35:23.000Z> FirebrandJay: Accept my terms, wood man
<2022-02-26T23:36:56.000Z> WoodshopHandman: I don't have an etsy link yet because I don't have anything listed yet. I'm scrambling to get the tankard project up and running so I can list those and poast a link.
<2022-02-26T23:40:00.000Z> FirebrandJay: oh okay
<2022-02-26T23:45:35.000Z> FirebrandJay: I'm planning to get at least one of those tankards, how are you for engraving or woodburning ducks or other birds
<2022-02-26T23:45:43.000Z> FirebrandJay: ?
<2022-02-26T23:46:38.000Z> WoodshopHandman: ?
<2022-02-26T23:57:02.000Z> WoodshopHandman: Like on the tankard or as something separate?
<2022-02-26T23:57:45.000Z> FirebrandJay: Yeah, like on the tankard, like a duck tankard
<2022-02-26T23:58:02.000Z> FirebrandJay: Or an otter, my father in law loves otters
<2022-02-26T23:58:31.000Z> FirebrandJay: Just rendering the likeness of a beast on a piece of wood, generally
<2022-02-27T00:00:09.000Z> WoodshopHandman: I would be very willing to give the woodburning a shot if I had the right silhouette to work off of, but I don't have carving tools to do anything fancy in that department.
<2022-02-27T00:02:54.000Z> FirebrandJay: You're a good man wood man, I will solicit the preferred silhouette of an otter from my old lady's old man and render that to you at such and such a time as would be appropriate
<2022-05-06T18:58:59.000Z> FirebrandJay: Hey, so I've been doing a bit of experimenting with image editing, and I've made a vector of a clipart outline that I would want to include on a tankard for my father in law. What kind of file do you use for such vectorized images?
<2022-05-07T03:23:16.000Z> WoodshopHandman: svg files are the most common for vectors but unfortunately the tankard project is on hold for the foreseeable future because I simple don't have the tooling/expertise to make the metal parts that I need.
<2022-05-07T04:50:19.000Z> FirebrandJay: that's quite alright, his birthday isn't until february, lol
<2022-05-07T04:50:30.000Z> FirebrandJay: just wanted to know a thing about vector graphics
<2022-11-19T10:07:32.000Z> WoodshopHandman: Brother, I didn't realize you still check in from time to time. I've been working to move away from poast for what I imagine are the same reasons as you and I've been giving the dudes I care about on here some alternative means of contact. If you ever need anything, reach out to me at oakenpilled@gmail.com.