<2022-06-22T18:38:49.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I'm curious.  Are you CoE?
<2022-06-22T18:43:20.000Z> Dan_Hulson: As in a CoE in buisness.If so no I'm just a working-class bloke who works in commercial cleaning for my family but I do PC repairs on the side.I hope CoE means the same thing in the US as here lol
<2022-06-22T18:44:07.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Oh I'm sorry.  I meant Church of England.
<2022-06-22T18:45:09.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I had a football teacher years ago I was fond of who would always call it the CoE; so I assumed it was the normal usage.
<2022-06-22T18:45:16.000Z> Dan_Hulson: I'm a protestant yes,but the Church as fallen in my opinion 
<2022-06-22T18:45:25.000Z> Dan_Hulson: its fine my friend
<2022-06-22T18:45:55.000Z> Dan_Hulson: I think all the Churches all over the west need cleaning out tbh
<2022-06-22T18:46:34.000Z> Dan_Hulson: They preach false gospel and twist words to fit their narrative
<2022-06-22T18:46:47.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I was actually curious more in respect of tradition.  For I have been told that Anglicans and Lutherans will acknowledge the Saints, but I should not expect such of other denominations.
<2022-06-22T18:47:23.000Z> Dan_Hulson: In our Churches we do have stain glass windows of Saints
<2022-06-22T18:47:57.000Z> Dan_Hulson: We don't don't make a big deal about it but we do belive in Saint hood
<2022-06-22T18:48:23.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I'll tell you something funny I've found about Catholicism.
<2022-06-22T18:48:37.000Z> Dan_Hulson: go o friend
<2022-06-22T18:49:40.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: They will never directly tell you this either.
<2022-06-22T18:49:54.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I'm not sure even most of the priests are aware of this.
<2022-06-22T18:50:19.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Catholicism is a religion designed to create martyrs.
<2022-06-22T18:50:33.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Saints in a more abstract sense but specifically martyrs.
<2022-06-22T18:50:33.000Z> Dan_Hulson: How so
<2022-06-22T18:51:01.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Everything you learn in catechism relates specifically to the awful death of some saint or another.
<2022-06-22T18:51:27.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Yes I guess it is
<2022-06-22T18:51:32.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: And the truth is that saint probably died frightfully.
<2022-06-22T18:52:06.000Z> Dan_Hulson: I would imagine so even Christians want to live
<2022-06-22T18:52:11.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: But what I mean is that Catholicism is a doctrine intended to apply directly to people that will be martyrs and to encourage others to be martyrs.
<2022-06-22T18:52:30.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: The amount of Saints in the Calendar is enormous.
<2022-06-22T18:53:06.000Z> Dan_Hulson: it his right to die for your faith though
<2022-06-22T18:53:36.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Yes Catholics create a lot of mythos around their saints
<2022-06-22T18:53:42.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I can talk to Catholics about the 40 Holy Martyrs of Sebaste as well as I can of those Chinese Catholics that were murdered by the Manchus in the Boxer rebellion.
<2022-06-22T18:54:08.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: But I get this weird impression that it's Heaven or nothing.
<2022-06-22T18:54:55.000Z> Dan_Hulson: I try to live by the Bible best I can and try not to worry about other stuff TBH
<2022-06-22T18:55:08.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: And the impression I get of Heaven is that it's actually not much that different from Earth.  God has a purpose for those in Heaven which is distinct from those destined elsewhere.
<2022-06-22T18:55:35.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Blah.
<2022-06-22T18:55:38.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Well we shall hopefully find out one day Brother
<2022-06-22T18:55:41.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Where I am going with this.
<2022-06-22T18:55:49.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I hold you in great respect.
<2022-06-22T18:56:08.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Fundamentally, my issue with the Church is the lack of reformers.
<2022-06-22T18:56:09.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Thank you I consider you a friend as well
<2022-06-22T18:56:16.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I am unfortunately not a reformer.
<2022-06-22T18:56:51.000Z> Dan_Hulson: The Church as fallen I belive it must be reclaimed
<2022-06-22T18:57:04.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Well.
<2022-06-22T18:57:06.000Z> Dan_Hulson: and I mean all denominations
<2022-06-22T18:57:38.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: A few months ago, my own parish priest was talking about the sin of abortion.
<2022-06-22T18:58:08.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Saying that the evil in this world is at least a part of those that were prevented from living.
<2022-06-22T18:58:31.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: And I think that the sins of my Church are those that are prevented from reforming it.
<2022-06-22T18:58:59.000Z> Dan_Hulson: I often wonder if the Lord meant all this to happen
<2022-06-22T18:59:19.000Z> Dan_Hulson: and it means he will return soon
<2022-06-22T18:59:38.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: There's a few other guys I listen to on Fedi.
<2022-06-22T18:59:51.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I think they're right when they say that we might be on the way out.
<2022-06-22T19:00:01.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: That we had a high point for our belief.
<2022-06-22T19:00:04.000Z> Dan_Hulson: I agree for sure
<2022-06-22T19:00:23.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: But that God is trying very hard to sort out the chaff from the wheat right now.
<2022-06-22T19:00:39.000Z> Dan_Hulson: But all we can do is trust in the Lord
<2022-06-22T19:01:00.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I'm amused to think I met you because I had a computer issue months ago.
<2022-06-22T19:01:10.000Z> Dan_Hulson: yes i know right
<2022-06-22T19:01:24.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: The computer runs fine now btw.
<2022-06-22T19:01:34.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Was just going ask that
<2022-06-22T19:02:08.000Z> Dan_Hulson: I will always help out my Brothers and Sisters with anything if I can
<2022-06-22T19:02:26.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Of the people I know on Fedi, you strike me as a very nice guy who is willing to challenge me on my hubris.
<2022-06-22T19:03:08.000Z> Dan_Hulson: I always enjoy your opinions on things and we can all learn from each other
<2022-06-22T19:03:24.000Z> Dan_Hulson: We are only human after all 
<2022-06-22T19:03:55.000Z> Dan_Hulson: and Thank you I always enjoy our chats aswell You are a decent Bloke
<2022-06-22T19:04:05.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Anyways, I'm sorry for burning up your time.  Thank you so much.
<2022-06-22T19:04:25.000Z> Dan_Hulson: You can talk to me or dm me anytime my Brother
<2022-06-22T19:04:35.000Z> Dan_Hulson: It has been a plessure
<2022-06-22T19:05:23.000Z> Dan_Hulson: We must seek solace in our Christian brothers at times.Now take care I shall keep you in my prayers
<2022-06-22T19:06:14.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I've got a funny story I'll tell you sometime in the future, about my CoE footballl coach who get the red card.
<2022-06-22T19:07:01.000Z> Dan_Hulson: anytime my Brother i'm always here for a chat on anything
<2022-06-22T19:07:14.000Z> Dan_Hulson: will be looking forward to it
<2022-07-04T13:50:39.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Not seen you about much friend so just wanted check you were well
<2022-07-04T13:52:03.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I'm alright.  I'm just making a deliberate attempt to shitpost less.
<2022-07-04T13:52:24.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I appreciate the concern though.
<2022-07-04T13:52:30.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: How are things going with you?
<2022-07-04T13:53:29.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Well as long as you are Ok friend. I'm all good thank you just wanted check you were well
<2022-07-04T13:53:44.000Z> Dan_Hulson: If you ever need me let me know
<2022-07-04T13:54:19.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: You seem like a nice person.  I've actually seen other people say the same of you.
<2022-07-04T13:54:25.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I appreciate it.
<2022-07-04T13:55:14.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Thank you friend I like to check people are ok sometimes people need a chat
<2022-07-04T13:55:41.000Z> Dan_Hulson: and I enjoy our Chats as well you are a decent bloke
<2022-07-04T14:09:36.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Got 4 rabbits, 20 chickens, and a kitten in the last two months.  This was in addition to two cats I've had for over ten years.  Maybe thirteen years.  I'm really struck at how much these extra responsibilities have changed my life.
<2022-07-04T14:12:01.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Yes I can Imagine I feed the stray cats the foxes and my Dog it is time-consuming but it's a fulfilling thing and I used to own Chickens and still would if I had the room
<2022-07-04T14:12:52.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: One of the rabbits died.  Another one nearly died but made a remarkable recovery.  I did not realize that the support network for rabbits basically dissolved in the last two years.  Chickens are remarkably easy and charming.  Feeding and caring for twenty chickens is basically the same labor as caring for one rabbit.  And one of my neighbor's sold his house recently.  He was feeding the local strays.  One of those, a kitten, showed up on my doorstep basically hours from death.  Badly emaciated.  Fur almost entirely matted.  Covered in its own shit and suffering diarrhea.
<2022-07-04T14:13:37.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: So now its my cat.
<2022-07-04T14:14:13.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Basically I've just been getting used to that.
<2022-07-04T14:15:08.000Z> Dan_Hulson: I'm sorry your Rabbit died and I'm glad you saved that cat its our duty to help animals in need.I knew you were a good guy and it shows in your caring nature to animals
<2022-07-04T14:17:20.000Z> Dan_Hulson: I shall pray for you and the family and animals to go on ok
<2022-07-04T14:17:42.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Cats are remarkably strong.  So the cat is a she.  She's probably six months old.  Pulled thirty ticks off of her.  Matting all over her.  When I shaved off the matted fur, I could find evidence of multiple dog bites.  Had to get her prescription anti-diarrheal treatment.  It's amazing to me how normal she seems after all that.
<2022-07-04T14:18:06.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Yeah, I appreciate it.
<2022-07-04T14:18:11.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: You're a good guy.
<2022-07-04T14:18:23.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: How are things with you?
<2022-07-04T14:20:17.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Things are good with me I live a quiet life tbh.I go and check on my old mum and dad most days and feed the animals and thats about it really.and I like it this way really
<2022-07-04T14:20:58.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Sounds comfy.
<2022-07-04T14:21:19.000Z> Dan_Hulson: You must keep in touch and let me know if you need anything
<2022-07-04T14:21:29.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: You too.
<2022-07-04T14:21:48.000Z> Dan_Hulson: I Shall pray for you and yours take care friend
<2022-07-11T18:37:04.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I'm beginning to realize that I'm the old man now.
<2022-07-11T18:37:45.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: When I was a kid, the old men were patient with me.  And now that I'm an old man, the instinct in me tells me to be patient with others.
<2022-07-11T18:39:12.000Z> Dan_Hulson: That's a good thing I shitpost a bit but when I need to I can switch to serious and compassionate.Its a good thing my friend
<2022-07-11T18:39:57.000Z> Dan_Hulson: The younger generation need our guidance Brother
<2022-07-11T18:40:23.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: It's weird.  I can see the accidents befalling other people, but I often can't do anything meaningfully about it.
<2022-07-11T18:40:42.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: But when I remember back to my own youth, it was fundamentally no different, and I made loads of mistakes.
<2022-07-11T18:41:20.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: It's like I'm not quite sure what I can reasonably do if young men were as foolish as I was.
<2022-07-11T18:41:22.000Z> Dan_Hulson: It's to be young but the younger generation now is really struggling
<2022-07-11T18:42:22.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: True.
<2022-07-11T18:42:40.000Z> Dan_Hulson: I often try to get people to agree to disagree and squash arguments but it doesn't always work
<2022-07-11T18:42:57.000Z> Dan_Hulson: I'm often called Boomer
<2022-07-11T18:43:10.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Hahaha.
<2022-07-11T18:43:16.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Oh man.
<2022-07-11T18:43:15.000Z> Dan_Hulson: lol
<2022-07-11T18:43:32.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Funny story.
<2022-07-11T18:43:35.000Z> Dan_Hulson: 38yr old Boomer lol
<2022-07-11T18:43:39.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Go on
<2022-07-11T18:43:41.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: So my wife's dad is a literal boomer.
<2022-07-11T18:44:02.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: And the guy is moving states to build his own funerary house for the last hopeful decade of his life.
<2022-07-11T18:44:18.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: And is burning his estate in the process, leaving his three children nothing.
<2022-07-11T18:44:57.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Boomer can be like that
<2022-07-11T18:45:06.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I know nothing about this but what my wife tells me, and I choose to laugh at the details she gives me.  But the details are utterly obscene.
<2022-07-11T18:45:14.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I'm laughing because otherwise I'd be in tears.
<2022-07-11T18:45:38.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Anyways.
<2022-07-11T18:45:53.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: This is an odd point.
<2022-07-11T18:46:26.000Z> Dan_Hulson: go on brother
<2022-07-11T18:46:35.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I'm not sure the point of giving advice when I'm fairly certain it won't be taken.
<2022-07-11T18:46:46.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Do I do so anways and maintain the orthodoxy?
<2022-07-11T18:47:09.000Z> Dan_Hulson: As good Christians we must try
<2022-07-11T18:47:32.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: And a part of me remembers when the old men when I was a kid were patient with me. Funny enough I became as regular as the rest of them.
<2022-07-11T18:48:03.000Z> Dan_Hulson: We all did it comes with age I think
<2022-07-11T18:48:54.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Hmm.
<2022-07-11T18:48:57.000Z> Dan_Hulson: We have to mature or with are rudderless
<2022-07-11T18:49:04.000Z> Dan_Hulson: we
<2022-07-11T18:49:28.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I would definitely agree with that.
<2022-07-11T18:49:42.000Z> Dan_Hulson: How is that little cat you found
<2022-07-11T18:50:05.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Hah.
<2022-07-11T18:50:07.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Ahh
<2022-07-11T18:50:14.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I named her "Daisy."
<2022-07-11T18:50:21.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Nice
<2022-07-11T18:50:26.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Honestly enough because she's white like a Daisy flower.
<2022-07-11T18:50:30.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Great cat.
<2022-07-11T18:50:39.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: She's recovering actually.
<2022-07-11T18:50:48.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: But it's going to be long road.
<2022-07-11T18:50:57.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Thats great news shes on the mend
<2022-07-11T18:51:07.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Yeah.
<2022-07-11T18:51:14.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Very good cat.
<2022-07-11T18:51:28.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Going to be on medication for a while.
<2022-07-11T18:51:36.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: But she's as active as my other cats now.
<2022-07-11T18:51:45.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: And is frankly very normal.
<2022-07-11T18:51:49.000Z> Dan_Hulson: thats good 
<2022-07-11T18:51:59.000Z> Dan_Hulson: They bounce back eh
<2022-07-11T18:52:14.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Cats are really tough.
<2022-07-11T18:52:27.000Z> Dan_Hulson: It was kind of you to take her in
<2022-07-11T18:52:32.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: She's... my guess now.  Something like 8 months old.
<2022-07-11T18:52:54.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: And was evidence on her after shaving all different sort of traumatic event.
<2022-07-11T18:53:13.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Thats sad indeed
<2022-07-11T18:53:25.000Z> Dan_Hulson: I love animals always have
<2022-07-11T18:53:42.000Z> Dan_Hulson: It speaks well of you to take her in
<2022-07-11T18:53:53.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: But despite her experiences, she's actually very low maintenance, and just likes me to lead her around the house occasionally.
<2022-07-11T18:53:53.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I had to shave her because basically her whole fur was matted.
<2022-07-11T18:54:27.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Ehh.
<2022-07-11T18:54:47.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: You point to something about me that I've failed to acknowledge over years.
<2022-07-11T18:54:59.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I never thought of myself as an animal person.
<2022-07-11T18:55:09.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Animals would just sort of fall into my responsibility.
<2022-07-11T18:55:11.000Z> Dan_Hulson: I belive you can tell a lot from somebody by how they treat animals
<2022-07-11T18:55:35.000Z> Dan_Hulson: You are a good man
<2022-07-11T18:55:38.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I was a computer guy.  Or I was a craftsman or something.
<2022-07-11T18:55:51.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: But yeah.
<2022-07-11T18:56:29.000Z> Dan_Hulson: I have always been a blue collar worker too
<2022-07-11T18:57:11.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Yeah.
<2022-07-11T18:57:32.000Z> Dan_Hulson: I wouldn't change it for the world TBH
<2022-07-11T18:58:49.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I don't think I've given enough thought to who I am in a while.
<2022-07-11T18:59:03.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I will say this.
<2022-07-11T18:59:09.000Z> Dan_Hulson: go on
<2022-07-11T18:59:17.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Years ago, I was in university.
<2022-07-11T18:59:36.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I was studying classical languages to become a scholar of Indo-European Studies.
<2022-07-11T18:59:47.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: That period of my life.
<2022-07-11T18:59:56.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: However fancy it may seem.
<2022-07-11T19:00:09.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Is filled with so much unbrindled insanity.
<2022-07-11T19:00:14.000Z> Dan_Hulson: You felt out of place
<2022-07-11T19:00:24.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: The ivory tower is out of it's fucking mind.
<2022-07-11T19:00:33.000Z> Dan_Hulson: agreed
<2022-07-11T19:00:49.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I still very much enjoy the subject matter, but the culture is *very* messed up.
<2022-07-11T19:01:05.000Z> Dan_Hulson: I always found solace in the working class as a rule
<2022-07-11T19:01:50.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: So for something like ten years of my life.
<2022-07-11T19:01:59.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I was spent most of my time staring at screens.
<2022-07-11T19:02:11.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Good lord.
<2022-07-11T19:02:28.000Z> Dan_Hulson: man needs to be closer to nature to be happy
<2022-07-11T19:02:31.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I ended up in a craftsman position to fill a role in a family business.
<2022-07-11T19:02:49.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: And frankly the chance to work with my hands and be on my feet.
<2022-07-11T19:02:52.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Fixed most of my problems.
<2022-07-11T19:02:58.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Same
<2022-07-11T19:03:19.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I wish I could get other people to see this without wasting years of their life.
<2022-07-11T19:03:31.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Nothing like a good days work
<2022-07-11T19:04:02.000Z> Dan_Hulson: University is a debt Prison and its insane
<2022-07-11T19:04:04.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I do work making wooden furniture at the moment.
<2022-07-11T19:04:21.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Thats a good trade
<2022-07-11T19:04:33.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: But I've been saving my money and investing in the hardware necessary for a real machining shop.
<2022-07-11T19:04:38.000Z> Dan_Hulson: I do commerical cleaning
<2022-07-11T19:04:43.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: And at this point I basically have everything I need.
<2022-07-11T19:05:03.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I actually know someone else that does commercial cleaning as well.
<2022-07-11T19:05:22.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: My wife's mom, who's divorced, has such a business.
<2022-07-11T19:05:30.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Its not bad its me Dads buissnes
<2022-07-11T19:06:09.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Its real honest work is the main thing
<2022-07-11T19:06:21.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Seems like a good business.  They always have work.  And the money is decent.
<2022-07-11T19:06:26.000Z> Dan_Hulson: working a proper job is rewarding
<2022-07-11T19:06:43.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Yeah.
<2022-07-11T19:07:07.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Covid nearly finished our business but we got through it
<2022-07-11T19:07:17.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Man.
<2022-07-11T19:07:34.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: We were lucky enough because our business is mostly online.
<2022-07-11T19:07:49.000Z> Dan_Hulson: I work part-time and I get by still I'm happy
<2022-07-11T19:08:11.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: But hot damn.
<2022-07-11T19:08:11.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Wall street virtually obliterated main street.
<2022-07-11T19:08:20.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Yes it did
<2022-07-11T19:08:22.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: And people are now basically going into debt for groceries.
<2022-07-11T19:08:38.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Its bad here in the UK too
<2022-07-11T19:08:55.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I don't know if there's going to be a market soon.
<2022-07-11T19:09:14.000Z> Dan_Hulson: $10 a gallon for fuel and food as doubled in price
<2022-07-11T19:09:28.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Goodness.
<2022-07-11T19:09:49.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: No point keeping secrets.
<2022-07-11T19:10:10.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I'm sitting on some acres in the middle of nowhere.
<2022-07-11T19:10:24.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Land holds its value
<2022-07-11T19:10:49.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Is it good land
<2022-07-11T19:10:52.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: And have been developing the property so that it can run independently if it has to.
<2022-07-11T19:10:52.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: And I realized about two years ago what was going to happen.
<2022-07-11T19:11:18.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Thats a good idea
<2022-07-11T19:11:34.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I mean they're trying to ruin the meat market.
<2022-07-11T19:11:41.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Make eggs unaffordable.
<2022-07-11T19:11:43.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Etc etc.
<2022-07-11T19:11:47.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Same here
<2022-07-11T19:12:02.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Chickens are now 6 weeks old.
<2022-07-11T19:12:12.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Brahmas and Orpingtons.
<2022-07-11T19:12:40.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Orpingtons are solid chickens
<2022-07-11T19:12:48.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Although if you're into this, I would strongly counsel you away from getting rabbits.
<2022-07-11T19:12:51.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Good lord.
<2022-07-11T19:12:54.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I have three of them.
<2022-07-11T19:13:19.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: There's just no veterinary support for the animals around here.
<2022-07-11T19:13:20.000Z> Dan_Hulson: They are hard work at times
<2022-07-11T19:13:35.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I mean they can literally eat grass.
<2022-07-11T19:13:39.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Which is a great advantage.
<2022-07-11T19:13:50.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: But they can die of a small thing in as little as six hours.
<2022-07-11T19:14:15.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Goats are good for clearing your land always worth getting one
<2022-07-11T19:14:17.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Actually the property is like 95% forest.
<2022-07-11T19:14:27.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: And from the beginning I've wanted to get pigs.
<2022-07-11T19:14:48.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: But this is bear country.
<2022-07-11T19:15:04.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Well that could be trouble
<2022-07-11T19:15:11.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Hah.
<2022-07-11T19:15:15.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Black or grizzly bears
<2022-07-11T19:15:16.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Oh man.
<2022-07-11T19:15:23.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Just black bears.
<2022-07-11T19:15:28.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: But I've already met them personally.
<2022-07-11T19:15:55.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: About a year ago, I was repairing shooting targets at my home range, when mom and her two cubs came to see me.
<2022-07-11T19:16:14.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Blacks bears aren't as aggressive I belive
<2022-07-11T19:16:24.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Ironically enough, I didn't have any actual firearms on me, just a bunch a power tools.
<2022-07-11T19:16:45.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: But once of my neighbors was feeding the things, and they lost their fear of people.
<2022-07-11T19:17:04.000Z> Dan_Hulson: fancy doing that
<2022-07-11T19:17:08.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Anyways, I did the power walk backwards for like ten minutes before getting home.
<2022-07-11T19:17:46.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: But my neighbors across the road lost 12 chickens last year to a year attack.
<2022-07-11T19:18:03.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Last thing I have to do is set up the electric fence to the coop I've been building for them.
<2022-07-11T19:18:19.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Perhaps you should at least carry a pistol with you just in case around the property
<2022-07-11T19:18:21.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I mean the coop I've been building for my chickens.
<2022-07-11T19:18:28.000Z> Dan_Hulson: yes
<2022-07-11T19:18:29.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: So funny you say that.
<2022-07-11T19:18:32.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: But yeah.
<2022-07-11T19:18:57.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Back then I was comfortable walking around unarmed, but I carry a pistol when I walk the boundaries now.
<2022-07-11T19:19:07.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I need to keep an eye on what my neighbors are doing.
<2022-07-11T19:19:16.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Good man don't risk your life
<2022-07-11T19:20:04.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: One of my neighbors built a hunting blind on the corner of my property with that of a third neighbor.
<2022-07-11T19:20:05.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Pistol or a revolver is a must in a place like that
<2022-07-11T19:20:26.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Which is still there.
<2022-07-11T19:20:46.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: But at least the third neighbor knows about now.
<2022-07-11T19:21:13.000Z> Dan_Hulson: You get deer up that wat to then
<2022-07-11T19:21:46.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Deer is good eating in a pinch
<2022-07-11T19:21:56.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Oh yeah.
<2022-07-11T19:22:09.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: But around here it's inefficiently regulated.
<2022-07-11T19:22:25.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Freezer full of meat can be a life saver
<2022-07-11T19:22:48.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Costs associated with a deer tag often render deer hunting more expensive than just buying beef.
<2022-07-11T19:23:03.000Z> Dan_Hulson: what a joke
<2022-07-11T19:23:16.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: *IF* you can get a tag for hunting moose or beer
<2022-07-11T19:23:21.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: It's worth it.
<2022-07-11T19:23:29.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: But those guys are professionals.
<2022-07-11T19:23:45.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Everything is regulated these days
<2022-07-11T19:23:54.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Yeah.
<2022-07-11T19:24:12.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: So funny story.
<2022-07-11T19:24:18.000Z> Dan_Hulson: go on
<2022-07-11T19:24:31.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: The hunting of groundhogs is considered unregulated where I am.
<2022-07-11T19:24:44.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Because they're a pest species that eats crops.
<2022-07-11T19:25:51.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: About a month ago one of these guys popped out a hole in the middle of my garden, which I only noticed because he was near it.
<2022-07-11T19:25:52.000Z> Dan_Hulson: I can imagine
<2022-07-11T19:25:53.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Something like six in the morning when I went to check on the chickens.
<2022-07-11T19:26:23.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I was waiting with a rifle at that hole for about a week.  No luck.
<2022-07-11T19:26:54.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I may get lucky.
<2022-07-11T19:27:09.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: But I may have scared him off.
<2022-07-11T19:27:17.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Can you use bait on them
<2022-07-11T19:27:36.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Legally yeah.
<2022-07-11T19:27:51.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: But my whole yard is bait to him.
<2022-07-11T19:28:12.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Yes thats bad
<2022-07-11T19:28:31.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: He ate something like a dozen broccoli plants.
<2022-07-11T19:28:40.000Z> Dan_Hulson: We don't get nothing like them here
<2022-07-11T19:28:50.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: But completely ignored the pumpkins.
<2022-07-11T19:29:02.000Z> Dan_Hulson: strange that
<2022-07-11T19:29:28.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: A friend of mine told me that animals don't like eating the squash family for some reason.
<2022-07-11T19:29:55.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Well thats something at least
<2022-07-11T19:30:11.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: What kind of problems do you guys have other there?
<2022-07-11T19:30:26.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Rabbits tear our crops up
<2022-07-11T19:30:37.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I could believe it.
<2022-07-11T19:30:46.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Foxes and stray cats kill the chickens
<2022-07-11T19:30:53.000Z> Dan_Hulson: also Mink
<2022-07-11T19:31:15.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I saw a video, years ago, where these guys in England were protecting their crops with rifles.
<2022-07-11T19:31:28.000Z> Dan_Hulson: In yorkshire their are Panthers too
<2022-07-11T19:31:28.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: But it was something weird.
<2022-07-11T19:32:04.000Z> Dan_Hulson: But people Panthers are a myth but they aren't
<2022-07-11T19:32:10.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I actually have at least one rabbit that lives on my property.
<2022-07-11T19:32:25.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I only see his prints every winter.
<2022-07-11T19:32:40.000Z> Dan_Hulson: They can wipe out your crop in no time
<2022-07-11T19:32:43.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Panthers?
<2022-07-11T19:32:48.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Yes
<2022-07-11T19:32:48.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Like big cats?
<2022-07-11T19:32:52.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Yes
<2022-07-11T19:33:10.000Z> Dan_Hulson: The army went out in the 60s to wipe them out
<2022-07-11T19:33:27.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: That's such a British solution.
<2022-07-11T19:33:47.000Z> Dan_Hulson: yorkshire moors have a few of them roaming
<2022-07-11T19:33:59.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I mean, my experience with mountain lions is that you never fucking see them unless they want you to see them.
<2022-07-11T19:34:13.000Z> Dan_Hulson: True
<2022-07-11T19:34:33.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: So I imagine a bunch of 19 year olds hunting them went about as well as you could expect.
<2022-07-11T19:34:56.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Yes they killed a few and said job done
<2022-07-11T19:35:19.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: That is actually fascinating.
<2022-07-11T19:35:27.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: So there are panthers there still?
<2022-07-11T19:35:32.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Appently Rich land owners released them in too the wild
<2022-07-11T19:35:47.000Z> Dan_Hulson: They say no but there is
<2022-07-11T19:35:56.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Huh.
<2022-07-11T19:36:11.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Sheep vanish and turn up ripped to shredds
<2022-07-11T19:36:24.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: At least around here, the deer are the big problem.
<2022-07-11T19:36:31.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Like big rats.
<2022-07-11T19:36:38.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: They eat all the young trees.
<2022-07-11T19:37:06.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I had a dozen black walnut saplings they fucking obliterated until I had enough sense to fence them off correctly.
<2022-07-11T19:37:25.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Thats living in nature sadly
<2022-07-11T19:37:37.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Well.
<2022-07-11T19:37:40.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Put it like this.
<2022-07-11T19:37:46.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Better than the city though
<2022-07-11T19:37:50.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I can't legally dispose of the deer because of the laws.
<2022-07-11T19:38:03.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Because all the deer living on my property are female.
<2022-07-11T19:38:48.000Z> Dan_Hulson: stupid laws
<2022-07-11T19:39:09.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: That said, I recently discovered that electric fencing is not only cheap to install but strikingly effective.
<2022-07-11T19:39:17.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Would have been nice to know two years ago.
<2022-07-11T19:39:26.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Yes it would
<2022-07-11T19:40:02.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Anyways I feel like I got very off topic.
<2022-07-11T19:40:06.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I might just be getting old.
<2022-07-11T19:40:19.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Its good I like a chat friend
<2022-07-11T19:40:38.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Its good to talk with your friends
<2022-07-11T19:40:51.000Z> Dan_Hulson: we are all getting old
<2022-07-11T19:41:06.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I heard you were setting up an account with nicecrew digital?
<2022-07-11T19:41:28.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Yes its just a bk up in case poast goes down
<2022-07-11T19:41:53.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I mean I came to fedi from gab.
<2022-07-11T19:41:58.000Z> Dan_Hulson: I'm staying on Poast though
<2022-07-11T19:42:01.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I knew a bunch of those guys from there.
<2022-07-11T19:42:10.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: They were a riot btw.
<2022-07-11T19:42:16.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Yes they were all Gab people
<2022-07-11T19:42:31.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Torba is such a fucking moron, that they were constant entertainment.
<2022-07-11T19:43:17.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I have since then learned that "Torba" is Polish and Russian and something like "wallet."
<2022-07-11T19:43:39.000Z> Dan_Hulson: They are great people in NC but they are not serious people to talk with
<2022-07-11T19:43:49.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Torba is shifty
<2022-07-11T19:44:01.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Never liked him
<2022-07-11T19:44:05.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: For the longest time.
<2022-07-11T19:44:11.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: the *longest* time.
<2022-07-11T19:44:30.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I gave Torba the benefit of the doubt on his Christian personage.
<2022-07-11T19:44:48.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: But it's indefensible at this point.
<2022-07-11T19:45:00.000Z> Dan_Hulson: People like Torba hide behind their faith
<2022-07-11T19:45:14.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: The guy wears as Jerusalem Cross on his hat and compares himself to Christ while defiling the rights of his users.
<2022-07-11T19:45:30.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Yes hes crazy
<2022-07-11T19:46:08.000Z> Dan_Hulson: and he backed AF too
<2022-07-11T19:46:15.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Let me put it like this.  I as a basic layman with no particular attachment to a monastic lifestyle, would be terrified to say any of the shit that he's said.
<2022-07-11T19:46:28.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Me too
<2022-07-11T19:46:57.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: If I'm going to die, I don't want god knowing that I pretended to be a father of the Church for decades.
<2022-07-11T19:47:20.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: God*
<2022-07-11T19:47:29.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I try so hard to police my language.
<2022-07-11T19:47:31.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Yes we are meant to be humble
<2022-07-11T19:47:46.000Z> Dan_Hulson: unlike Torba
<2022-07-11T19:48:07.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: So a few weeks ago.
<2022-07-11T19:48:08.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Pride comes before the fall
<2022-07-11T19:48:14.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Go on friend
<2022-07-11T19:48:22.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I'm not sure entirely what happened.
<2022-07-11T19:48:38.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I was on fedi talking about what I can't even remember.
<2022-07-11T19:48:47.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: And then "Kate Moss2" chimes in.
<2022-07-11T19:49:23.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: To this day, I'm not sure exactly what happened.
<2022-07-11T19:49:35.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: But I'm a naive person.
<2022-07-11T19:49:54.000Z> Dan_Hulson: what happend
<2022-07-11T19:50:38.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: So I think Kate Moss is a good soul.
<2022-07-11T19:50:44.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Lost but a good soul.
<2022-07-11T19:50:57.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: But there was a third part that jumped in.
<2022-07-11T19:51:10.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Whose name I can no longer remember.
<2022-07-11T19:51:26.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Sigh.
<2022-07-11T19:51:35.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: This is actually why I went quiet.
<2022-07-11T19:52:14.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Why can't I talk about this?
<2022-07-11T19:52:27.000Z> Dan_Hulson: you on about that weird guy who was talking bad the apostles
<2022-07-11T19:52:34.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I'm a fool.
<2022-07-11T19:52:43.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Take your time friend
<2022-07-11T19:53:07.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: So straight up in the NT Paul counsels us to be aware of  political and spiritual influences.
<2022-07-11T19:53:27.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Yes of course
<2022-07-11T19:53:32.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: But he does not specifically name the enemy.
<2022-07-11T19:53:43.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: And I believe it's for good reason.
<2022-07-11T19:54:18.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: He mentions specifically political and angelic influences.
<2022-07-11T19:54:26.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Including fallen angels.
<2022-07-11T19:54:29.000Z> Dan_Hulson: There was the guy who was talking bad about the apostle Paul  he was not a nice person
<2022-07-11T19:54:41.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: But he does not want us acting superstitious.
<2022-07-11T19:54:55.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Well.
<2022-07-11T19:55:01.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I had a bad time.
<2022-07-11T19:55:13.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Well there is unclean spirits in this world for sure though
<2022-07-11T19:55:15.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I mean I lost sleep for two weeks.
<2022-07-11T19:55:33.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: And I prayed asking what I'd done wrong.
<2022-07-11T19:55:45.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Because if you had lost sleep for two weeks you would.
<2022-07-11T19:55:59.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Of cause yes brother
<2022-07-11T19:56:25.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: And the impression I've gotten is that knowledge about the enemy is no advantage to... most of us?
<2022-07-11T19:56:45.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: As in, I should not be curious about evil for any reason.
<2022-07-11T19:57:05.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: And the few people that should are already on the road to being exorcists.
<2022-07-11T19:57:50.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: There are whole orders of angels whose soul role is route them out.  We're meant only to pray for their intercession.
<2022-07-11T19:58:51.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Of course yes there is Demonic thing in the world that must be fought against
<2022-07-11T19:58:56.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: But no man can contend directly with a devil.  But the angels can fight them.
<2022-07-11T19:59:21.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I feel like my curiousity about this is fundamentally sinful.
<2022-07-11T20:00:01.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: As in as the Archangel Michael were to talk to me directly, he would remind me I have real world obligations to fulfill, and that I should leave the demons to him.
<2022-07-11T20:00:23.000Z> Dan_Hulson: I say the prayer of st Michael if I feel I need strength against evil forvcs
<2022-07-11T20:00:52.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I pray to Saint Joseph a lot.
<2022-07-11T20:01:37.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: But yeah.
<2022-07-11T20:01:57.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: This experience reminded me that I am in no position to comment on religious matters.
<2022-07-11T20:01:58.000Z> Dan_Hulson: We protestants don't pray to saints much but I do somtimes
<2022-07-11T20:02:42.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I had an interaction with a poast user.
<2022-07-11T20:02:46.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: "Bebe"
<2022-07-11T20:02:56.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: A very nice person.
<2022-07-11T20:03:00.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Put me in my place.
<2022-07-11T20:03:01.000Z> Dan_Hulson: shes a good Christian
<2022-07-11T20:03:39.000Z> Dan_Hulson: you should also talk to poa.st/@Crux_Invictus
<2022-07-11T20:03:45.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I'm still kind of offended at the idea that Matthew wasn't originally writtin in Greek.
<2022-07-11T20:04:19.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: As I feel it's a step backwards for a religion trying to appeal to the whole world, especially when Greek was the lingua franca for much of it.
<2022-07-11T20:04:30.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I follow Crux, actually.
<2022-07-11T20:04:37.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Seems like a nice guy.
<2022-07-11T20:04:47.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Hes a good Christian Brother
<2022-07-11T20:05:22.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Incidentally.
<2022-07-11T20:05:23.000Z> Dan_Hulson: If you need Spiritual Councill Godcast are nice people
<2022-07-11T20:05:40.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I am uniquely well positioned to teach Greek to people.
<2022-07-11T20:05:57.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I've thought about it.
<2022-07-11T20:06:13.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: My own teacher would fume at the mouth with this kind of captive audience.
<2022-07-11T20:06:42.000Z> Dan_Hulson: I don't know Greek or Latin
<2022-07-11T20:07:08.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: If you really wanted to learn it, I could have to speaking Latin in a year.
<2022-07-11T20:07:35.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Greek is harder, because even with modern Greek the language is very dead an inaccessible.
<2022-07-11T20:07:44.000Z> Dan_Hulson: I am a very basic Christian I pray and read the Bible and thats it
<2022-07-11T20:07:47.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: The pitch accent is a stumbling block.
<2022-07-11T20:08:11.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Hmm.
<2022-07-11T20:08:17.000Z> Dan_Hulson: And try to live as the Lord wishes
<2022-07-11T20:08:28.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I may put up lessons in the future.
<2022-07-11T20:08:39.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Scans from my own books with explanations.
<2022-07-11T20:08:40.000Z> Dan_Hulson: I would like that
<2022-07-11T20:08:59.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I'm not sure how if anyone would follow them.
<2022-07-11T20:09:21.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Don't you have kids?
<2022-07-11T20:09:22.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Theres lots of Christians on here TBH
<2022-07-11T20:09:49.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Yes I do but I can't see them due to being a "Nazi"
<2022-07-11T20:09:58.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Oh.
<2022-07-11T20:10:03.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I'm sorry.
<2022-07-11T20:10:12.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Its Ok Brother 
<2022-07-11T20:10:18.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: You seem like the nicest fellow.
<2022-07-11T20:10:35.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: So that was the thing about the Irish wife?
<2022-07-11T20:10:48.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Thats correct yes
<2022-07-11T20:11:17.000Z> Dan_Hulson: The British goverments hates you speaking out and crushes you over it
<2022-07-11T20:11:32.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I've seen it with others too.
<2022-07-11T20:11:40.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Frankly, the same thing is happening over here.
<2022-07-11T20:11:54.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Its the same over all the West sadly
<2022-07-11T20:12:22.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I feel like I should say a nice word.
<2022-07-11T20:12:42.000Z> Dan_Hulson: I'm all good friend really
<2022-07-11T20:12:53.000Z> Dan_Hulson: It was 8yrs ago
<2022-07-11T20:13:18.000Z> Dan_Hulson: But I wouldn't b shut up by the state
<2022-07-11T20:13:43.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Do you know the Saint Francis prayer?
<2022-07-11T20:14:16.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Francis of assisi
<2022-07-11T20:14:19.000Z> Dan_Hulson: St
<2022-07-11T20:14:56.000Z> Dan_Hulson: I know of him but not much else
<2022-07-11T20:14:57.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Right.
<2022-07-11T20:15:20.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Shoot.
<2022-07-11T20:15:26.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Is this even topical?
<2022-07-11T20:15:48.000Z> Dan_Hulson: So is Prayer what is it for
<2022-07-11T20:15:51.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: "Oh Divine Master, grant that I may not so much seek to be consoled as to console,
<2022-07-11T20:15:58.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: To be understood as to understand.
<2022-07-11T20:16:02.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: To be loved as to love.
<2022-07-11T20:16:20.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: For it is in giving that be receivei; it is pardoning that we are pardoned.
<2022-07-11T20:16:33.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: And it is in dying that we are born to eternal life.
<2022-07-11T20:17:15.000Z> Dan_Hulson: I like that
<2022-07-11T20:17:25.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: At the end of the day, I feel like I can't control what happens in the world.
<2022-07-11T20:17:33.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I can only control what I do.
<2022-07-11T20:17:59.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: By focusing on what I can achieve, the prayer refocuses onto something meaningful to me.
<2022-07-11T20:18:08.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Leave to God to save.
<2022-07-11T20:18:22.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: But leave it into my hands what my hands are capable.
<2022-07-11T20:19:56.000Z> Dan_Hulson: We don't pray to Saints much but I do at times it gives a strengh
<2022-07-11T20:20:15.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Hmm.
<2022-07-11T20:20:27.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: When I was a kid my "soccer" coach was CoE.
<2022-07-11T20:20:34.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I very much liked him,
<2022-07-11T20:20:34.000Z> Dan_Hulson: I shall try that prayer thank you
<2022-07-11T20:20:46.000Z> Dan_Hulson: You said before about him
<2022-07-11T20:21:27.000Z> Dan_Hulson: I belive in unity amongst the Christian denomination
<2022-07-11T20:21:39.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I think one of the weird things about Catholicism is that it's a meant to be a religion of and for saints.
<2022-07-11T20:22:04.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I mean, my calendar is filled with feast days for saints.
<2022-07-11T20:22:16.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Yes and martyrs
<2022-07-11T20:22:17.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: And fasts too.
<2022-07-11T20:22:38.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: But the religion is structurally meant to encourage people to be saints.
<2022-07-11T20:22:54.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: But what if that isn't your life trajectory?
<2022-07-11T20:23:16.000Z> Dan_Hulson: We just try to be good Christians
<2022-07-11T20:23:24.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I mean, I love the old Saints.
<2022-07-11T20:23:33.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I was praying to Saint Barbara years ago.
<2022-07-11T20:24:00.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: A beautiful maiden locked in a high tower saved by divine intervention and the lightning bolt.
<2022-07-11T20:24:40.000Z> Dan_Hulson: personlly I pray to St padre pio semi regular
<2022-07-11T20:24:41.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Some of the early modern saints by contrast, and God forgive me for saying so, appear to be engaging in self-harm.
<2022-07-11T20:25:42.000Z> Dan_Hulson: How so brother
<2022-07-11T20:25:56.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Holdon.
<2022-07-11T20:26:00.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: One at a time.
<2022-07-11T20:26:08.000Z> Dan_Hulson: all good
<2022-07-11T20:26:23.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Gunsmiths pray to Saint Barbara to avoid accidentally killing themselves with explosions.
<2022-07-11T20:27:02.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: And some of the Modern Catholic saints are literally people that walked about sick people and were struck that they derived disease and died of sickness.
<2022-07-11T20:27:07.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I mean, what did you expect?
<2022-07-11T20:27:37.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Well yes thats just being foolish I'm sorry to say
<2022-07-11T20:27:58.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: but the Church literally encouraged it.
<2022-07-11T20:28:17.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: We're not talking about a maiden that wanted to be a nun, but he father forbade it.
<2022-07-11T20:28:32.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Saints are Catholicism's bread and butter
<2022-07-11T20:28:55.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: We're talking about people that derived social advantage from choosing to associate with those that were dying of plague.
<2022-07-11T20:30:08.000Z> Dan_Hulson: and the Vatican decides who will be a Saint too
<2022-07-11T20:30:26.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Let me put it like this.
<2022-07-11T20:30:38.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Joan of Arc was made  saint of the 20th century.
<2022-07-11T20:30:45.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: When did she die?
<2022-07-11T20:31:07.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: And yet.
<2022-07-11T20:31:08.000Z> Dan_Hulson: 1400s
<2022-07-11T20:31:09.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Mother.
<2022-07-11T20:31:14.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Oh what's her name?
<2022-07-11T20:31:35.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Indian Lady that let people die in agony in "hospitals."
<2022-07-11T20:31:52.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: She died this century and she's already a saint.
<2022-07-11T20:32:31.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Mother Teresa.
<2022-07-11T20:32:36.000Z> Dan_Hulson: mother teresa
<2022-07-11T20:32:47.000Z> Dan_Hulson: we got it at the same time
<2022-07-11T20:32:56.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Doesn't belong among these other people.
<2022-07-11T20:33:44.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Sorry.  I'm mad.
<2022-07-11T20:33:45.000Z> Dan_Hulson: I think the Old saints were truer saints and I don't mean that rudely
<2022-07-11T20:33:55.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Its Ok Brother
<2022-07-11T20:34:01.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I agree with you.
<2022-07-11T20:34:16.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I'm not sure how much you know about this.
<2022-07-11T20:34:27.000Z> Dan_Hulson: go on
<2022-07-11T20:34:30.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: But there are a bunch of Roman Saints in the 200s.
<2022-07-11T20:34:52.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: As in we're talking about Roman people who lived in Rome.
<2022-07-11T20:35:04.000Z> Dan_Hulson: yes
<2022-07-11T20:35:29.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: They derived literally zero social advantage for their adoption of Christianity in their time period.
<2022-07-11T20:35:41.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: But they're very fervent and interesting.
<2022-07-11T20:36:00.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Many were punished at one time for our beliefs
<2022-07-11T20:36:43.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I was going to say "Saint Bibiana" but apparently she's Fourth Century.
<2022-07-11T20:37:08.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: You have in particular a lot of female saints being executed by Roman authorities.
<2022-07-11T20:38:00.000Z> Dan_Hulson: No surpise there
<2022-07-11T20:38:40.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I'm still mad about it.
<2022-07-11T20:39:18.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Well you should be really
<2022-07-11T20:39:20.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I want you think about something before I am too tired to continue.
<2022-07-11T20:39:31.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Go on my Brother
<2022-07-11T20:39:38.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: The Bible says that there is on Church.
<2022-07-11T20:39:52.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I frankly don't care exactly where it falls and where it doesn't.
<2022-07-11T20:40:38.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: But I think that the absence of many Protestants from the Catholic Church has prevented reformers from stopping all these problems before they happened.
<2022-07-11T20:40:50.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Maybe so
<2022-07-11T20:41:21.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I would add something else though.
<2022-07-11T20:41:29.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I have met many Lutherans that I liked.
<2022-07-11T20:41:44.000Z> Dan_Hulson: As have I
<2022-07-11T20:41:47.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I hate to say this.
<2022-07-11T20:42:06.000Z> Dan_Hulson: I love all My Christian Brothers
<2022-07-11T20:42:09.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: The Calvinists really squick me out.
<2022-07-11T20:42:30.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: The Scofield bible ate them alive.
<2022-07-11T20:43:06.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Yes that so called bible is a sin
<2022-07-11T20:43:19.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: yeah
<2022-07-11T20:43:22.000Z> Dan_Hulson: its a twisted work
<2022-07-11T20:43:29.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I've seen this directly in this country.
<2022-07-11T20:43:51.000Z> Dan_Hulson: I have a King James Bible
<2022-07-11T20:44:03.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I do too, actually.
<2022-07-11T20:44:27.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I was given it years ago by a friend.
<2022-07-11T20:44:43.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Frankly the language is that of Sir Thomas Mallory.
<2022-07-11T20:44:54.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: In the Arthurian Legendry.
<2022-07-11T20:45:31.000Z> Dan_Hulson: King James just sponsored the Bible I think
<2022-07-11T20:45:56.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Eh.
<2022-07-11T20:46:00.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: It's readable.
<2022-07-11T20:46:09.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: People act like it's awful.
<2022-07-11T20:46:21.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: But it's readable, and for it's time it was essential
<2022-07-11T20:46:29.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Its all i Ever read
<2022-07-11T20:46:45.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Hmm.
<2022-07-11T20:47:18.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Actually.
<2022-07-11T20:47:20.000Z> Dan_Hulson: as I said I'm a basic Christian n
<2022-07-11T20:47:30.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Have you ever read Sir Thomas Mallory?
<2022-07-11T20:47:44.000Z> Dan_Hulson: No I have not Brother
<2022-07-11T20:47:47.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: if you can read the KJV, but I bet you can read him.
<2022-07-11T20:48:18.000Z> Dan_Hulson: I shall have a look at it friend
<2022-07-11T20:48:20.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Well, if you ever do, if you ever want to, I would like you to pay attention to a few things.
<2022-07-11T20:48:30.000Z> Dan_Hulson: go on
<2022-07-11T20:48:32.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: There are three generations of nights.
<2022-07-11T20:48:42.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: The oldest are characterizes by martial virtue.
<2022-07-11T20:48:45.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Pellinore.
<2022-07-11T20:48:54.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Pellinore is a badass.
<2022-07-11T20:49:12.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: The second generation is characterized by loyalty to liege.
<2022-07-11T20:49:22.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Lancelot is their foremost.
<2022-07-11T20:49:33.000Z> Dan_Hulson: So the Arthurian legends
<2022-07-11T20:50:22.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: But the last generation, the strongest is characterized by loyalty to God, and is typified by Percival and Galahad.
<2022-07-11T20:51:08.000Z> Dan_Hulson: I shall try to take a look at that
<2022-07-11T20:51:23.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: it's a mixed read.
<2022-07-11T20:51:29.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Parts of it are great.
<2022-07-11T20:51:51.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: But then you spend 10 chapters reading about some minor Arthurian character no-one talks about.
<2022-07-11T20:52:53.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Off Topic I actually recently read the Anglo Saxon chronicles it was very good but mixed also
<2022-07-11T20:52:55.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Several modern German operas, including Lohengrin, are the outgrowths of these tales btw.
<2022-07-11T20:53:12.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Saxo Grammaticus or?
<2022-07-11T20:53:55.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Yes wJust the English version of the Anglo Saxon Chronnicles
<2022-07-11T20:54:21.000Z> Dan_Hulson: I was intrested in My past
<2022-07-11T20:54:35.000Z> Dan_Hulson: as a English man
<2022-07-11T20:54:38.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Neat.
<2022-07-11T20:54:57.000Z> Dan_Hulson: I like our European past
<2022-07-11T20:55:12.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: So let me ask you.
<2022-07-11T20:55:23.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Go on friend
<2022-07-11T20:55:34.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Do the words "Chanson De Roland" or "Nibelungenlied" mean anything to you?
<2022-07-11T20:56:16.000Z> Dan_Hulson: The song/slash play Nibelungenlied
<2022-07-11T20:56:21.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I should say "friend" more often.
<2022-07-11T20:56:29.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Man.
<2022-07-11T20:56:42.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Its all good don't worry
<2022-07-11T20:56:57.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: My literal teacher in university studied the Nibelungenlied.
<2022-07-11T20:57:05.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: And I learned from him.
<2022-07-11T20:57:29.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: And I had someone ask me if the Nibelungenlied was actually epic poetry, and if I knew what that was.
<2022-07-11T20:57:46.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: And I was floored.
<2022-07-11T20:58:12.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Its a well known classic
<2022-07-11T20:58:21.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Hahahah.
<2022-07-11T20:58:46.000Z> Dan_Hulson: I only know a bit about it
<2022-07-11T20:59:10.000Z> Dan_Hulson: I know it warned again Anger and vengence
<2022-07-11T20:59:20.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Frankly, the Nibelungenlied is unreadable to a modern audience because its elaborate style.
<2022-07-11T20:59:33.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: But for its period, it was the Iliad of its day.
<2022-07-11T20:59:54.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: It'
<2022-07-11T20:59:57.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: s
<2022-07-11T21:00:05.000Z> Dan_Hulson: High German culture
<2022-07-11T21:00:08.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: rather more sophisticated than the Song of Roland.
<2022-07-11T21:00:22.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Which is great but has hard to believe moments.
<2022-07-11T21:00:47.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Including a Frankish priest killing a thousand Saracens with a swipe of his mace.
<2022-07-11T21:00:50.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Literally.
<2022-07-11T21:01:14.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Yes
<2022-07-11T21:01:22.000Z> Dan_Hulson: very fanciful
<2022-07-11T21:01:26.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Still good fun.
<2022-07-11T21:01:40.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: They call Muslims the worshippers of Apollo.
<2022-07-11T21:01:52.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: And to use that as insult today would confuse people.
<2022-07-11T21:01:56.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: so I like it.
<2022-07-11T21:02:07.000Z> Dan_Hulson: I have to go in 5mins I'm sorry to say Brother
<2022-07-11T21:02:17.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Yeah sorry.
<2022-07-11T21:02:22.000Z> Dan_Hulson: I need feed the strays
<2022-07-11T21:02:22.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Anyways.
<2022-07-11T21:02:27.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: You've been very nice.
<2022-07-11T21:02:34.000Z> Dan_Hulson: I love our chats Friend
<2022-07-11T21:02:38.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I am very thankful.
<2022-07-11T21:02:44.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Its nice to converse
<2022-07-11T21:02:47.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: God protect you.
<2022-07-11T21:02:59.000Z> Dan_Hulson: You shall be in my prayers
<2022-07-11T21:03:08.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Thank you
<2022-07-11T21:03:13.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: You too.
<2022-07-11T21:03:16.000Z> Dan_Hulson: and stay in touch
<2022-07-18T22:29:05.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: How are things going?
<2022-07-19T12:13:07.000Z> Dan_Hulson: How are you Brother I'm sorry I was busy last night and I'm going do some Jobs today while the weather is nice out. So I'll catch up for a chat later if that's ok.Hoping you are well my friend and I shall speak soon
<2022-07-19T12:18:15.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I hope all is well.  Have a nice day.
<2022-07-19T12:18:40.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Will catch up later Brother and Thank you
<2022-07-26T18:27:45.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Do you know if the sandman is on poast or nicecrew?
<2022-07-26T18:51:35.000Z> Dan_Hulson: There is a guy on NC and Poast by that name but I don't know them Brother, their accounts look hardly used as well I'm guessing if they are the same people they have gone back to Gab
<2022-07-26T20:56:32.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Thanks anyway.
<2022-09-08T15:00:08.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Just a heads up I think Sandman has returned and I know you asked me about him @ibnsandman
<2022-09-08T15:01:46.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Thanks.  I noticed actually.  Looks like he's already tangling with the locals as well.
<2022-09-08T15:02:16.000Z> Dan_Hulson: He seems close to Nicecrew people so I think it's him
<2022-09-08T15:03:22.000Z> Dan_Hulson: Fedi is crazy with all these Ecelebs on here now
<2022-09-08T15:04:01.000Z> Dan_Hulson: It's drawing to much heat 
<2022-09-08T15:18:34.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: I've been sort of paying attention to goings on.
<2022-09-08T15:18:34.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Yeah.
<2022-09-08T15:18:57.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Sandman is Nicecrew now, I think?
<2022-09-08T15:19:12.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: He used to spend a lot of time on Gab trolling boomers.
<2022-09-08T15:20:44.000Z> kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com: Yeah regarding the Ecelebs.  Not sure what to say.  I'm still scanning pages for the Greek study thing in my spare time.  I try not to comment too much as things are going faster than I can process them.