<2021-06-08T00:24:13.000Z> hourmutt: What do you have in mind for your "Talmud project"?
<2021-06-08T00:25:30.000Z> DK_Dharmaraj: I was going to ask if you wanted to collaborate 
<2021-06-08T00:26:42.000Z> DK_Dharmaraj: It's still inchoate in my mind. Probably a recurring topic on Third Rail. Possibly a mini podcast series or something. May eventually include a written component. I've been kicking around an idea for a book on Satanism and Liberalism and Judaism (and Romanticism) for a while. 
<2021-06-08T01:06:09.000Z> hourmutt: Sounds interesting. I've only been doing some aimless research and fishing for intriguing tidbits so far. It's a morbidly curious topic. I'd be more than happy to contribute in more directed way though if you'd like.
<2021-06-08T01:09:29.000Z> DK_Dharmaraj: Are you comfortable doing podcasts or have you in the past? These days I find speaking is my most effective way of getting stuff out
<2021-06-08T03:00:42.000Z> hourmutt: I've never done any sort of podcast before, but I have nothing against it. I assume you are familiar with the technical side of podcasting and get me through anything there. I would probably need to get a better microphone is all.
<2021-06-08T03:01:05.000Z> hourmutt: *could get me through
<2021-06-22T13:56:04.000Z> hourmutt: Is this the lady who was doing the presentation of "right wing buddhists"?
<2021-06-22T13:56:51.000Z> hourmutt: cause she's claiming 'she 'never did an ethnographic study i was just talking about a podcast that sent me death threats'
<2021-06-22T13:57:01.000Z> DK_Dharmaraj: No but the ones who did are her best dyke buddies 
<2021-06-22T13:58:22.000Z> hourmutt: what are their names?
<2021-06-22T14:31:38.000Z> DK_Dharmaraj: Ann Gleig (@agleig), Adeana McNicholl (@adeanamcn), and Brenna Artinger (@brennaartinger). They’ve all gone private but I had wild success trolling the shit out of Gleig (who is the ringleader, instigator, and most active on Twitter of the bunch) by replying to people who are replying to her. She remains tagged in the sub replies and is too retarded to understand how to mute the conversation or ask her mutuals to untag her
<2021-06-22T14:32:41.000Z> hourmutt: tyvm
<2021-06-22T14:33:18.000Z> hourmutt: which of those were doing the ethnography?
<2021-06-22T14:35:18.000Z> DK_Dharmaraj: Gleig and Artinger 
<2021-06-22T14:35:37.000Z> DK_Dharmaraj: Gleig is an ethnographer, she does not know shit about Buddhism 
<2021-06-22T14:35:58.000Z> DK_Dharmaraj: That's one of the main things that got them so mad, was me calling them out on this point 
<2021-06-22T14:36:07.000Z> hourmutt: are they doctors? I want to be maliciously formal as possible
<2021-06-22T14:38:44.000Z> DK_Dharmaraj: Yes rhey all are dr credentials phd
<2021-06-22T14:39:00.000Z> DK_Dharmaraj: Also McNicholl's presentation was ethnographic in character
<2021-06-22T14:39:23.000Z> DK_Dharmaraj: She I think works at least a little on texts though 
<2021-06-22T14:42:17.000Z> hourmutt: alright
<2021-06-22T14:43:58.000Z> DK_Dharmaraj: This is doxxable ultimately so please don't repeat and I will always maintain to the contrary but I actually finished my PhD in Buddhist philosophy at a "reputable program" last year lol
<2021-06-22T14:44:15.000Z> DK_Dharmaraj: These people are fucking frauds lol
<2021-06-22T14:48:47.000Z> DK_Dharmaraj: All they have is their credentialism. That's what they keep harping on, "we have this piece of paper and you don't." well guess what bitch, yes I do
<2021-06-22T15:16:58.000Z> DK_Dharmaraj: thank you so much I really appreciate it. since you have them on the hook, here are three questions to ask them:1) is "netnography" a form of human subjects research? yes or no 2) does human subjects research require advance IRB approval? yes or no3) was IRB approval for the human subjects research that was conducted regarding Right Wing Dharma Squads sought and/or obtained? yes or no
<2021-06-22T17:20:10.000Z> hourmutt: ethics guidelines are very clear, what they did would be a gross violation
<2021-06-22T17:20:30.000Z> hourmutt: the crux of the matter is whether or not their research falls under those guidelines
<2021-06-22T17:20:48.000Z> DK_Dharmaraj: it's an open question to some extent because the online stuff is so new
<2021-06-22T17:21:03.000Z> DK_Dharmaraj: but screenshotting from behind a block is slam dunk imo
<2021-06-22T17:21:14.000Z> DK_Dharmaraj: it's telling her to fuck off
<2021-06-22T17:21:37.000Z> DK_Dharmaraj: as a scholar you can't record the words of someone who has told you to fuck off without IRB approval, which they are basically not going to give
<2021-06-22T17:23:36.000Z> hourmutt: here is the definition of "human subject research" as given by the university of central florida (of which Gleig is an employee):
<2021-06-22T17:23:38.000Z> hourmutt: irb.ufl.edu/index/humanrsch.html
<2021-06-22T17:24:23.000Z> DK_Dharmaraj: right. I think I should be more explicit in my email
<2021-06-22T17:24:28.000Z> DK_Dharmaraj: like some of that is debatable prior to the block
<2021-06-22T17:24:35.000Z> DK_Dharmaraj: once I blocked her it's clear there was an interaction
<2021-06-22T17:24:54.000Z> DK_Dharmaraj: and similarly clear that I could reasonably expect that what I said was inaccessible to her
<2021-06-22T17:26:48.000Z> hourmutt: if they used material from your twitter after interacting with you, that would be subject
<2021-06-22T17:26:57.000Z> DK_Dharmaraj: right
<2021-06-22T17:30:28.000Z> hourmutt: interestingly they mention in their paper they admit to having "an informal zoom conversation with three participants who identified on the center right-wing spectrum"
<2021-06-22T17:30:41.000Z> DK_Dharmaraj: not us
<2021-06-22T17:31:08.000Z> hourmutt: yes but they use the word "participants"
<2021-06-22T17:36:07.000Z> hourmutt: in any case they clearly A) should have had IRB oversight and B) unless they had an explcitiy exemption given by the IRB for how they conducted the study they were in violation
<2021-08-18T00:14:28.000Z> hourmutt: Sorry to hear about the situation with your wife. If its any consolation, me and my woman got it several months ago for reasons -- we both had bad initial reaction which lasted ~24 hrs. We haven't had any problems since then. I will be praying for you guys. God bless your health.
<2021-08-18T00:15:41.000Z> DK_Dharmaraj: thank you very much, friend