<2022-04-01T10:00:36.000Z> TinyFern: seek.com.au/job/56477110?type=standard#sol=09e4bd720e84c305ed09becdf930ac2085ea69c7
<2022-04-01T10:00:48.000Z> TinyFern: seek.com.au/job/56453685?type=standout#sol=233fceeb90597551ede089ea0d68e1ebf5fd5490
<2022-04-01T10:01:27.000Z> TinyFern: Remote jobs which don't mention Vax status 
<2022-04-01T10:01:43.000Z> TinyFern: There's work out there if your current job kicks you out 
<2022-04-01T10:02:11.000Z> Crux_Invictus: thanks, I know it's there I'm just getting lost in my frustration
<2022-04-01T10:03:00.000Z> TinyFern: I'd offer you free accommodation but I don't have a spare bedroom
<2022-04-01T10:03:04.000Z> Crux_Invictus: this would be perfect if not for the requirement: seek.com.au/job/56336516?type=standout#sol=6a5203b3510aceda080e900a758dbdac54dcab99
<2022-04-01T10:03:31.000Z> Crux_Invictus: I'm hoping my Pastor had some luck with the Bishop as I raised that with him after service
<2022-04-01T10:04:22.000Z> TinyFern: They are removing the education requirement so you might be able to get away with wearing a mask 
<2022-04-01T10:04:43.000Z> TinyFern: Apply anyway and say you will wear a mask and take a RAT test daily 
<2022-04-01T10:05:14.000Z> TinyFern: Probably saves money if you use the same RAT every time 😉
<2022-04-01T10:05:39.000Z> Crux_Invictus: I might do, my current employer should be able to keep me on until June or so doing odd jobs from home so I'm not in a desperate rush yet.
<2022-04-01T10:05:50.000Z> TinyFern: You could always apply to your bishop and pastor to do the lay preacher training before the end of this year 
<2022-04-01T10:06:07.000Z> Crux_Invictus: I did ask my Pastor to hit up the Bishop and see what support there is beyond what's on the LCA site
<2022-04-01T10:06:09.000Z> TinyFern: It's 3 months, costs like $400 and you can see if you've got a taste for it 
<2022-04-01T10:07:27.000Z> Crux_Invictus: I might bring that up with my Pastor on Sunday, he did mention something about a program they're working on starting but I'm not sure if it's an ACT/NSW specific thing
<2022-04-01T10:08:04.000Z> Crux_Invictus: I'd be really interested to know what the LCAs plan is going forward to secure Pastors
<2022-04-01T10:08:08.000Z> TinyFern: alc.edu.au/training/professional-development/lpt-enrolment/#:~:text=A%20lay%20preacher%20has%20a,to%20be%20a%20lay%20reader.
<2022-04-01T10:08:14.000Z> TinyFern: It's online
<2022-04-01T10:09:26.000Z> TinyFern: Ahahaha the plan is to decline and die I think 
<2022-04-01T10:10:00.000Z> TinyFern: I'm going to be having an aggressive conversation with my assistant bishop next month because nobody is doing anything about all these dying churches 
<2022-04-01T10:10:16.000Z> Crux_Invictus: Yeah I think they're trying to force themselves into a situation where they can just become Australian ELCA
<2022-04-01T10:10:38.000Z> TinyFern: Old tiny churches don't even have websites but everybody in the LCA goes to a big nice church with lots of people so it doesn't even occur to them that it's a problem 
<2022-04-01T10:10:54.000Z> TinyFern: Nobody wants to help them with evangelism 
<2022-04-01T10:10:54.000Z> Crux_Invictus: The LCA website itself is pretty bad
<2022-04-01T10:11:11.000Z> TinyFern: It's become apparent that Lutheranism is just orthodoxy for white people 
<2022-04-01T10:11:19.000Z> TinyFern: You inherit it, you don't convert in
<2022-04-01T10:11:37.000Z> Crux_Invictus: I think that's just Christianity in the west generally.
<2022-04-01T10:11:58.000Z> TinyFern: I see plenty of young hip happy clappy churches in my parts 
<2022-04-01T10:12:26.000Z> Crux_Invictus: There's a couple here from what I've seen, it's all just Hillsong offshoots though
<2022-04-01T10:12:27.000Z> TinyFern: They need to do more to support churches without pastors, because that's a sizeable chunk of the church at this point 
<2022-04-01T10:12:43.000Z> Crux_Invictus: Yeah I think I heard there was something like 70 vacancies?
<2022-04-01T10:12:52.000Z> TinyFern: And we need to funnel people into studying, ideally by diverting that Ukraine money into scholarships 
<2022-04-01T10:13:04.000Z> Crux_Invictus: and maybe 4 men studying to be Pastors
<2022-04-01T10:13:11.000Z> TinyFern: There's like 35 churches actively calling for pastors 
<2022-04-01T10:13:25.000Z> TinyFern: More than that don't have a pastor and can't afford one 
<2022-04-01T10:14:05.000Z> Crux_Invictus: My Pastor has received three calls and the ministry team were looking at a way they can issue their own so we can keep him for a few more years
<2022-04-01T10:14:08.000Z> TinyFern: If you look on the renewing churches page, there's a video where they basically say that the Lutheran church will be dead within a generation if we don't start evangelizing 
<2022-04-01T10:14:34.000Z> TinyFern: And that's the LCA produced video saying it 
<2022-04-01T10:14:47.000Z> TinyFern: For an urgent situation nobody seems to want to move their butts 
<2022-04-01T10:15:24.000Z> Crux_Invictus: I'm not sure how I feel about things always being even worse than I thought
<2022-04-01T10:15:40.000Z> TinyFern: The Papua New Guinea Lutheran church has 900,000 members vs AUS/NZ with 30,000 
<2022-04-01T10:15:59.000Z> TinyFern: They're going to start sending brown people here on mission trips soon
<2022-04-01T10:16:04.000Z> Crux_Invictus: We really love our international missions
<2022-04-01T10:16:13.000Z> TinyFern: It honestly upsets me 
<2022-04-01T10:16:15.000Z> Crux_Invictus: Yeah just like what's happened with the Catholic church
<2022-04-01T10:16:32.000Z> Crux_Invictus: I brought it up with my Pastor the other week but had to be really careful with how I worded it
<2022-04-01T10:16:46.000Z> TinyFern: Seems like they're happy to share the gospel with anybody they consider beneath them - kids, foreigners - but nobody they think of as an equal 
<2022-04-01T10:16:55.000Z> Crux_Invictus: Our district loves our mission to Nepal
<2022-04-01T10:17:20.000Z> Crux_Invictus: they like the easy wins
<2022-04-01T10:17:22.000Z> TinyFern: I genuinely think they're racist in a really liberal condescending way 
<2022-04-01T10:17:38.000Z> Crux_Invictus: Agree
<2022-04-01T10:18:26.000Z> TinyFern: Like, let's do gospel 101 because it's simpler for the dumb foreigners and then we never have to develop our own apologetics for real people like whites who might ask mildly difficult questions 
<2022-04-01T10:19:22.000Z> Crux_Invictus: Yeah they get to start from scratch with them and get the added bonus of leaving after they're done digging a well or something
<2022-04-01T10:19:29.000Z> TinyFern: But somehow if I suggest prioritising Australians first that's more racist than rice evangelism 
<2022-04-01T10:19:43.000Z> TinyFern: Ugh
<2022-04-01T10:19:55.000Z> Crux_Invictus: Yep
<2022-04-01T10:19:58.000Z> TinyFern: Gotta get those insta pics
<2022-04-01T10:20:11.000Z> Crux_Invictus: Who am I supposed to love first? My neighbour or a stranger?
<2022-04-01T10:20:34.000Z> Crux_Invictus: What weight is there to our message when our home city is Sodom
<2022-04-01T10:20:58.000Z> TinyFern: Read the Lutheran magazine the other month and the intro to the new bishop went "he's got a non-german last name and he isn't from South Australia, how the hell did this guy end up in the Lutheran church??" 
<2022-04-01T10:21:12.000Z> TinyFern: Tell me your church is dying without telling me your church is dying 
<2022-04-01T10:21:22.000Z> TinyFern: Yeah that's a really good point 
<2022-04-01T10:21:37.000Z> Crux_Invictus: There's a few Finns from what I've seen
<2022-04-01T10:21:49.000Z> TinyFern: It's basically hypocrisyWe demonstrate no love to our own family but throw money at strangers to show off our charity
<2022-04-01T10:22:11.000Z> TinyFern: Apparently his wife is part of one of the OG families and she writes his sermons 
<2022-04-01T10:22:19.000Z> TinyFern: He's big on the female pastor movement 
<2022-04-01T10:22:25.000Z> Crux_Invictus: It's almost like God is trying to tell us something by giving us a famine of workers
<2022-04-01T10:22:28.000Z> Crux_Invictus: Well fuck
<2022-04-01T10:22:49.000Z> Crux_Invictus: Apparently ~60% of my congregation are pro female pastor
<2022-04-01T10:22:56.000Z> TinyFern: Gross
<2022-04-01T10:23:17.000Z> Crux_Invictus: My Pastor had to put his foot down last time they voted and say "NO, go and read what St Paul says!"
<2022-04-01T10:23:29.000Z> TinyFern: Nice
<2022-04-01T10:23:38.000Z> TinyFern: Sounds like a great mentor pastor 
<2022-04-01T10:23:41.000Z> Crux_Invictus: Did you do that survey a few weeks back?
<2022-04-01T10:23:51.000Z> Crux_Invictus: Yeah we're really lucky to have him
<2022-04-01T10:23:58.000Z> TinyFern: I have technically only recently become a member 
<2022-04-01T10:24:10.000Z> TinyFern: It's hard when your church doesn't have a pastor
<2022-04-01T10:24:26.000Z> TinyFern: Should be a church council member soon though haha 
<2022-04-01T10:24:45.000Z> TinyFern: Really easy to get promoted fast when there's less than 20 people in the church 
<2022-04-01T10:25:01.000Z> TinyFern: I'd be interested to know the survey results
<2022-04-01T10:25:06.000Z> Crux_Invictus: I've been pretty surprised with how quickly I've been accepted but I guess that's what happens when you actively help out
<2022-04-01T10:25:22.000Z> Crux_Invictus: There was a lot in the survey about social justice so I'm pretty concerned
<2022-04-01T10:26:57.000Z> TinyFern: People were delighted when we helped with the gardening. Like, we put together the tech and processes so we could keep doing Sunday services after the pastor retired in January and I've been putting together the liturgy and hymns and everything for months, but that one time we helped with the weeding was apparently monumental 
<2022-04-01T10:27:04.000Z> TinyFern: People are funny
<2022-04-01T10:28:05.000Z> TinyFern: The social justice stuff sounds good to the twitterati and it makes it seem like you've got an effective administration
<2022-04-01T10:28:27.000Z> TinyFern: You know I looked the other day and I don't think the LCA does a prison ministry at all 
<2022-04-01T10:28:36.000Z> Crux_Invictus: It really shows the university education of our leadership
<2022-04-01T10:28:48.000Z> Crux_Invictus: that is concerning
<2022-04-01T10:28:50.000Z> TinyFern: The entire church is middle class white people throwing money at trendy causes in brown countries 
<2022-04-01T10:29:19.000Z> TinyFern: Can't help out bogans or losers at home
<2022-04-01T10:30:10.000Z> TinyFern: This chat feature is cumbersome on my phone, did you want to chin wag over discord or something? (Assuming you don't have plans)
<2022-04-01T10:30:13.000Z> Crux_Invictus: it's really starting to sound like we're reaping what we've sown
<2022-04-01T10:30:50.000Z> Crux_Invictus: I've never used discord so I wouldn't know where to start
<2022-04-01T10:30:52.000Z> TinyFern: Turns out no evangelism + declining birthrate = dying churchCrazy how God won't be mocked ey
<2022-04-01T10:30:58.000Z> TinyFern: Hmmm
<2022-04-01T10:32:32.000Z> Crux_Invictus: I think I can do a one time thing with a browser
<2022-04-01T10:32:39.000Z> Crux_Invictus: I did that once to call into Rand's show
<2022-04-01T10:40:11.000Z> Crux_Invictus: looks like discord wants a phone number to sign up so we might put a cork in that one for now
<2022-04-01T10:40:50.000Z> TinyFern: alc.edu.au/training/professional-development/lpt-enrolment/#:~:text=A%20lay%20preacher%20has%20a,to%20be%20a%20lay%20reader.
<2022-04-01T10:41:00.000Z> TinyFern: Oh thats the wrong link
<2022-04-01T10:41:20.000Z> TinyFern: discord.gg/9k2ZSKPQ
<2022-04-01T10:42:08.000Z> TinyFern: Dammit 
<2022-04-01T10:42:31.000Z> TinyFern: I was trying to be cunning and signed up with my phone and then tried to remove it but it won't let you do stuff without a phone attached 
<2022-04-01T10:42:58.000Z> Crux_Invictus: from what I've heard discord is starting to make things difficult rather than just blow accounts/servers away
<2022-04-01T10:43:32.000Z> Crux_Invictus: and it still wants a phone number
<2022-04-01T10:44:21.000Z> TinyFern: Telegram you can hide your number but I don't know how to add somebody without one 
<2022-04-01T10:45:32.000Z> Crux_Invictus: it looks like they also block all of the free temporary numbers you can use
<2022-04-01T10:45:45.000Z> Crux_Invictus: even the Israel one I came across
<2022-04-01T10:46:54.000Z> TinyFern: My husband apparently found a US phone number for a dude he's called Mark 
<2022-04-01T10:46:59.000Z> TinyFern: Hey, let's switch to Telegram X:telegram.org/dlx
<2022-04-01T10:47:29.000Z> TinyFern: If you hide your number and follow the link you shouldn't need to make a new thing 
<2022-04-01T10:47:51.000Z> TinyFern: Although you might want to change your username to 12234 or something if you use telegram for other things 
<2022-04-01T10:48:17.000Z> Crux_Invictus: I've never used Telegram either
<2022-04-01T10:48:31.000Z> TinyFern: That's handy actually 
<2022-04-01T10:48:50.000Z> TinyFern: I use telegram for my mum's groups so I can't change all my deets to chat with people anonymously
<2022-04-01T10:49:03.000Z> TinyFern: But you can just put in fake stuff and hide your number 
<2022-04-01T10:49:30.000Z> TinyFern: Idk this might just all be too hard but I've got a sleeping baby on me and I feel social but can't move 
<2022-04-01T10:49:54.000Z> TinyFern: Every other Lutheran I know is closer to retirement age than my age 
<2022-04-01T10:51:23.000Z> Crux_Invictus: fair enough
<2022-04-01T10:58:57.000Z> Crux_Invictus: Alright I think I have a Telegram now
<2022-04-01T10:59:27.000Z> TinyFern: Nice
<2022-04-01T11:05:33.000Z> Crux_Invictus: what now?
<2022-04-01T11:05:42.000Z> TinyFern: Hey, let's switch to Telegram X:telegram.org/dlx
<2022-04-01T11:05:59.000Z> TinyFern: Does that take you to Mark Plant something?
<2022-04-01T11:06:06.000Z> Crux_Invictus: negative
<2022-04-01T11:06:21.000Z> Crux_Invictus: it's a download link for the telegram desktop app
<2022-04-01T11:06:39.000Z> TinyFern: Search Mark Bohemond Plant
<2022-04-01T11:07:53.000Z> Crux_Invictus: nothing
<2022-04-01T11:08:29.000Z> TinyFern: Can I search your username?
<2022-04-01T11:08:48.000Z> Crux_Invictus: should just be Crux_Invictus
<2022-04-01T11:09:26.000Z> Crux_Invictus: there we go
<2022-04-01T11:36:27.000Z> Crux_Invictus: I think the call died
<2022-06-09T11:12:20.000Z> TinyFern: Actually 
<2022-06-09T11:12:25.000Z> TinyFern: seek.com.au/job/57083842?type=standard#sol=26279f9eb694b0abd7140720c735eb91a2d8f88c
<2022-06-09T11:12:32.000Z> TinyFern: That might be perfect 
<2022-06-09T11:13:00.000Z> TinyFern: Evening shifts, flexible hours, based in Adelaide, needs somebody organised and strong
<2022-06-09T11:13:38.000Z> Crux_Invictus: I think I saw that, or a very similar job, months ago when I was looking at jobs in adelaide. I'll be staying in Canberra though at least until 2023 to do the initial 12 months of study.
<2022-06-09T11:14:28.000Z> Crux_Invictus: The NSW/ACT District is working to do their own training as well instead of just ALC's Discover called Frontier
<2022-06-09T11:14:36.000Z> TinyFern: That's fair. I like to encourage people to jump into things recklessly so I thought I'd throw you the link
<2022-06-09T11:14:56.000Z> Crux_Invictus: lol, I do appreciate you looking out for me though
<2022-06-09T11:15:18.000Z> TinyFern: But the NSW/ACT district doesn't do pastoral training? How would that help with the degree requirements?
<2022-06-09T11:16:27.000Z> Crux_Invictus: From what I understand they used to do something similar to Discover a few years ago but stopped. Now they're starting it up again and I think it's being done under the Australian College of Theology umbrella in terms of creds
<2022-06-09T11:17:09.000Z> Crux_Invictus: It's not UDiv like ALC but since it's Lutheran to Lutheran we should be able to square the circle if I am able to continue into Pastoral studies
<2022-06-09T11:17:48.000Z> TinyFern: Neat
<2022-06-09T11:18:39.000Z> Crux_Invictus: Yeah, it'll be run out of Port Macquarie but online and the guy they've marked as the teacher is pretty smart from what my Pastor was saying
<2022-06-09T11:19:13.000Z> TinyFern: How much annually would make a difference? I'm trying to work out how my congregation can do a scholarship or something with a contract that the person becomes our pastor at the end 
<2022-06-09T11:20:01.000Z> TinyFern: We can afford about 30% of a pastor right now so if $10k annually as a scholarship would make study workable then we could probably sponsor somebody through uni and get a pastor out of it 
<2022-06-09T11:23:32.000Z> Crux_Invictus: I'm not too sure to be honest, the money isn't the real stumbling block it's having a roof over your head while you study. So if your congregation was able to provide housing to a prospective Pastor while they studied it might be more effective than X amount of money. The cost of the degree can be sorted with FEE-HELP and you can live on Study Assistance so long as you don't have to worry about rent.
<2022-06-09T11:26:29.000Z> Crux_Invictus: My rent, $840 a fortnight, though not the most expensive is relatively cheap for what it is in Canberra. Government assistance, including rent assistance, would only cover ~$680 of that leaving nothing left over for food, bills and so on.
<2022-06-09T11:27:56.000Z> Crux_Invictus: Like having a program where a student lives with a family from the congregation would be alright like we do for foreign students. Though I can understand being reluctant when it comes to older students.
<2022-06-09T11:28:26.000Z> TinyFern: That would work great except we don't live in Adelaide 
<2022-06-09T11:28:46.000Z> Crux_Invictus: I thought you did?
<2022-06-09T11:28:55.000Z> TinyFern: Nah mate
<2022-06-09T11:29:10.000Z> TinyFern: Be heaps easier if we did
<2022-06-09T11:29:21.000Z> Crux_Invictus: Regional SA?
<2022-06-09T11:29:45.000Z> TinyFern: I want to be pleased that my infosec is so good 
<2022-06-09T11:29:55.000Z> TinyFern: We're in QLD
<2022-06-09T11:30:01.000Z> Crux_Invictus: Huh
<2022-06-09T11:30:19.000Z> Crux_Invictus: I now suddenly remember an email that was sent to the Godcast about a church in need
<2022-06-09T11:30:30.000Z> TinyFern: Hush now
<2022-06-09T11:30:46.000Z> Crux_Invictus: Now you
<2022-06-09T11:31:00.000Z> Crux_Invictus: *Now you're going to tell me VLHW lives in Adelaide and not QLD
<2022-06-09T11:31:30.000Z> TinyFern: She complains constantly about mark McGowan 
<2022-06-09T11:31:36.000Z> TinyFern: She's in WA
<2022-06-09T11:31:47.000Z> Crux_Invictus: I must've missed those poasts or I'm also a retard
<2022-06-09T11:32:11.000Z> Crux_Invictus: Well I actually live in Canberra if you can call it living
<2022-06-09T11:33:27.000Z> TinyFern: It's comments like that which make me confused you're not running for Adelaide 
<2022-06-09T11:33:51.000Z> TinyFern: I think the rent there is cheaper although not knowing anybody isn't nice 
<2022-06-09T11:34:18.000Z> TinyFern: That said now you've explained this NSW/ACT district training thing I think you're right to stay put
<2022-06-09T11:35:01.000Z> Crux_Invictus: Since Discover also relies on already being settled in a congregation I'd be staying put anyway. My Pastor is keen on keeping me and looking at ways to help
<2022-06-09T11:35:13.000Z> TinyFern: Nice 
<2022-06-09T11:35:36.000Z> Crux_Invictus: And the rent isn't all that much cheaper in terms of how much home you get for it.
<2022-06-09T11:38:06.000Z> TinyFern: I think Martian Venator lives in Adelaide 
<2022-06-09T11:38:49.000Z> Crux_Invictus: I think so, I was talking to someone else ages ago and they mentioned it so it might've been him
<2022-06-09T11:38:57.000Z> TinyFern: I try to stay alert to where people are because I  always want to make more irl friends 
<2022-06-09T11:39:09.000Z> TinyFern: And of course everybody is scattered across the country 
<2022-06-09T11:39:20.000Z> TinyFern: Probably a good thing really 
<2022-06-09T11:39:46.000Z> Crux_Invictus: It is and it isn't, would be good for us to be closer and just start up the Australian Catacomb Synod or something
<2022-06-09T11:40:42.000Z> TinyFern: It's probably discouraging being in this online sphere where it feels like a whole bunch of people are all pushing for the church to improve and then it turns out that me and christ_js_lord are just talking about the same church 
<2022-06-09T11:41:43.000Z> TinyFern: It was crazy talking to the church planting guy and realising that there's like four people in all of Australia trying to plant Lutheran churches 
<2022-06-09T11:42:00.000Z> Crux_Invictus: I thought there would be more?
<2022-06-09T11:42:01.000Z> TinyFern: Even if what we are doing is a 'repotting'
<2022-06-09T11:42:36.000Z> TinyFern: Yeah I thought they picked some examples for the new and renewing churches website to be includes as photos and stories to make it look good 
<2022-06-09T11:42:45.000Z> TinyFern: That's not just a selection of examples though 
<2022-06-09T11:42:50.000Z> TinyFern: It's all of them 
<2022-06-09T11:43:01.000Z> Crux_Invictus: Maybe it's only four people dedicated to it and they pull from their sending churches when they need more people
<2022-06-09T11:43:50.000Z> TinyFern: Yeah but think about the Lutheran church closing however many dozen churches in the last decade and in the same time they're opening a handful 
<2022-06-09T11:44:01.000Z> TinyFern: It's a controlled decline 
<2022-06-09T11:44:27.000Z> TinyFern: We really need to do something to talk to millennials and Zoomers 
<2022-06-09T11:44:38.000Z> Crux_Invictus: Yeah I saw one closing up shop in the district newsletter the other day
<2022-06-09T11:45:50.000Z> Crux_Invictus: I'm just not sure how to reach them outside of putting content out on the usual platforms
<2022-06-09T11:47:02.000Z> Crux_Invictus: Beyond the people I get to talk to at the gym late at night I don't have many chances to evangelise being stuck at home during the work week
<2022-06-09T11:48:23.000Z> TinyFern: Maybe you should become a taxi driver but for evangelistic purposes 
<2022-06-09T11:48:35.000Z> TinyFern attached file https://i.poastcdn.org/2065a8d178dd8627fe701abe1bc8445d7ab98fa7313ce7c7bc4f817bf3b25a92.jpg
<2022-06-09T11:49:04.000Z> TinyFern: The Queensland district is schools and aged care nearly outnumbering churches 
<2022-06-09T11:49:39.000Z> TinyFern: Maybe we really do need to start making content 
<2022-06-09T11:49:55.000Z> TinyFern: Is that why you were asking about video editing software?
<2022-06-09T11:50:15.000Z> Crux_Invictus: Yeah, I'm going to try and do something
<2022-06-09T11:51:28.000Z> TinyFern: Need help or a sounding board?
<2022-06-09T11:51:39.000Z> Crux_Invictus: Just don't know what at the moment, if it'll just be memes or something to put the thought in peoples heads or longer stuff like what Myles and Super do
<2022-06-09T11:52:19.000Z> Crux_Invictus: Not at the moment but once I start getting traction on it I'll reach out to you and Christ_is_Lord for thoughts
<2022-06-09T11:52:55.000Z> TinyFern: I definitely think somebody needs to do something on tiktok, I just pray that it isn't me 
<2022-06-09T11:53:37.000Z> TinyFern: I would suggest that the entry level stuff is probably more needed, stuff that goes viral and then niggles at people until they look into it 
<2022-06-09T11:53:58.000Z> TinyFern: There's a lot of stuff like the Godcast and reasonable faith and a million YouTube apologists if you go looking 
<2022-06-09T11:54:21.000Z> TinyFern: I think the priority is to get people to wake up to how much they need God first
<2022-06-09T11:54:38.000Z> Crux_Invictus: I agree
<2022-06-09T11:55:13.000Z> TinyFern: Need some catchy 20s clips which are funny and then make you think 
<2022-06-09T11:55:21.000Z> Crux_Invictus: I think cutting together some Christwave (name pending) stuff with passages from Scripture and clips of prominent Preachers from the past would be a good place to start
<2022-06-09T11:55:32.000Z> TinyFern: That also sounds great 
<2022-06-09T11:55:37.000Z> Crux_Invictus: Like the Fulton Sheen clip I poast every now and then
<2022-06-09T11:56:01.000Z> TinyFern: Tbh I don't watch videos mostly so I haven't seen it 
<2022-06-09T11:57:07.000Z> Crux_Invictus: i.poastcdn.org/de08a741ebcf5b18b9b39bfe4d1381f24b46dca003b067b291b620a092706fe0.mp4 it's ~5min long so probably too long for TikTok but something like it is what I'd be aiming for
<2022-06-09T12:00:28.000Z> TinyFern: Yeah you want to boil it down 
<2022-06-09T12:01:01.000Z> TinyFern: "I'm free to do whatever I want and you can't stop me!" 
<2022-06-09T12:01:29.000Z> Crux_Invictus: Yeah, keep it to the point of "this is fucked, you need Christ"
<2022-06-09T12:02:14.000Z> TinyFern: "yeah you're free to numb yourself with booze and SSRIs until you can fuck enough strangers to pretend anybody loves you"
<2022-06-09T12:03:23.000Z> TinyFern: Fyi I have a special talent for being exceptionally brutal (which I have worked hard to suppress) but it might come in handy for making really snappy video clapbacks 
<2022-06-09T12:04:14.000Z> TinyFern: You could probably do a whole series of replying to screaming libs with mean snark and then sarcastically saying how good it is that they aren't oppressed by doing what God wants 
<2022-06-09T12:04:40.000Z> Crux_Invictus: Yeah
<2022-06-09T12:04:42.000Z> Crux_Invictus: Good idea
<2022-06-09T12:05:21.000Z> TinyFern: Gets attention from the big left accounts and starts slapfights which means it gets more attention 
<2022-06-09T12:06:27.000Z> TinyFern: By acting as though obedience to God is obviously, self-evidently a good thing we could probably meme people into becoming more accepting of that view 
<2022-06-09T12:08:14.000Z> TinyFern: It could be good 
<2022-06-09T12:08:49.000Z> Crux_Invictus: Agree
<2022-06-09T12:13:22.000Z> TinyFern: I'll sleep on it and see if I have any ideas in the morning. Not sure if I should download tiktok or not but I'm happy to be an ideas guy for you even if you only use 1 in 50
<2022-06-09T12:14:19.000Z> Crux_Invictus: Don't worry about downloading tiktok, I think you're better off not having to go near it at all. You have good enough ideas without it anyway. I've got a lot of work to do
<2022-06-09T12:17:50.000Z> TinyFern: 👍
<2022-09-15T07:44:33.000Z> Crux_Invictus: Is that tallman weirdo still going? I muted him when I went to bed last night
<2022-09-18T06:51:15.000Z> TinyFern: Nah he dropped out 
<2022-09-18T06:51:21.000Z> TinyFern: He has no stamina 
<2022-09-18T06:56:22.000Z> Crux_Invictus: Lol, I muted him since I've got to get ready for the evening service
<2022-09-19T09:06:37.000Z> TinyFern: seek.com.au/job/58356521?type=standard#sol=54a3364a7f04c2d9770b0bad03d30feaa74f7fbc
<2022-09-19T09:08:43.000Z> TinyFern: seek.com.au/job/58533649?type=standout#sol=1a2e8a23e6237ab696927c7476a47fd012e3c1bd
<2022-09-19T09:08:58.000Z> TinyFern: Have you considered getting a forklift licence
<2022-09-19T09:10:22.000Z> TinyFern: seek.com.au/job/58309685?type=standard#sol=bd94eb7559cccde9b904725b171f353727342e1b
<2022-09-19T09:10:56.000Z> TinyFern: Theres also a number of security officer jobs which are nights but idk if you want that kind of thing
<2022-09-19T09:43:32.000Z> Crux_Invictus: The security jobs I saw needed either covid jab or certs I don't have. Haven't really considered a forklift licence as unless I have a job that needs it I won't use the skills and will lose them. I just looked at the cost of the course and it's around $1k for something I might not ever use.
<2022-09-19T11:53:24.000Z> TinyFern: Idk I just figured driving a forklift is better than working retail 🤷
<2022-09-19T22:11:46.000Z> Crux_Invictus: You've got a point, I'm not ruling anything out yet
<2022-11-10T01:24:53.000Z> TinyFern: seek.com.au/job/58878011?type=standout#sol=0416d0c1f57d047fade9319137fe954c727e5dce
<2022-11-10T01:26:55.000Z> Crux_Invictus: If I hadn't decided to go all in on ministry I'd be applying for these roles like mad. But the catch with this one is it's fulltime and " For this reason, we encourage staff to get vaccinated when possible and to inform us of their vaccination status."
<2022-11-10T01:27:13.000Z> TinyFern: Ah
<2022-11-10T01:27:17.000Z> TinyFern: Fair
<2022-11-10T01:28:23.000Z> TinyFern: Idk let me know if you need a hand prepping anything for ministry or need a sounding board, I'm home most days with the toddler
<2022-11-10T01:29:33.000Z> Crux_Invictus: I probably will, I need to finish writing my Sermon for the 20th so I'd appreciate your help proofreading it like you did with my first one.
<2022-11-10T01:30:29.000Z> TinyFern: 👍
<2022-11-10T01:31:05.000Z> Crux_Invictus: thank you