<2022-09-22T19:17:30.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I am thinking I will try to do some research and see if I  can get a clearer image of this whole Keffals gate situation. You in? 
<2022-09-22T19:18:57.000Z> Charlamagne: I was about to ask you that, my friend and I are on Telegram investigating on who might be hacking Kiwifarms. Want to join?
<2022-09-22T19:19:34.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I am setting something up on guilded. I don`t wanna give Telegram my number.
<2022-09-22T19:19:46.000Z> Charlamagne: Oh sorry I meant Matrix
<2022-09-22T19:19:58.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I don`t have a matrix account. Are they back up?
<2022-09-22T19:20:14.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Also, can the people running this place read everything on there?
<2022-09-22T19:20:22.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Because if yes I prefer guilded.
<2022-09-22T19:20:35.000Z> Charlamagne: Not on the Kiwifarms matrix just a regular normie nameserver but it's a private group chat
<2022-09-22T19:21:03.000Z> Charlamagne: I don't think anybody will bother to read unless somebody reports it
<2022-09-22T19:21:14.000Z> Charlamagne: it's private invite only
<2022-09-22T19:21:17.000Z> ThePhilosopher: How good is it for working? Group chats lose overview really quick.
<2022-09-22T19:21:41.000Z> ThePhilosopher: guilded.gg/i/kKJyYXY2
<2022-09-22T19:21:59.000Z> ThePhilosopher: You can have a look at what I am setting up. There will so far be one more person in there.
<2022-09-22T19:22:05.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I think 7-10 people max.
<2022-09-22T19:22:59.000Z> ThePhilosopher: How do i register to matrix?
<2022-09-22T19:23:39.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I want the cooperative work to be vetted, confirmed and put in a pdf.
<2022-09-24T15:14:22.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I have a e-mail with the name of my former boss registered on KF.
<2022-09-24T15:15:26.000Z> Charlamagne: i don't think there was a leak
<2022-09-24T15:15:43.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Nah, but good idea to have e-mail with the name of someone you don`t like.
<2022-09-24T15:15:47.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Use it for shit like that.
<2022-09-24T15:16:33.000Z> Charlamagne: ashley madison is also a good one, lots of marriages were ruined during that leak
<2022-09-24T15:16:54.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yea, small brain play to just have a random e-mail.
<2022-09-24T15:17:07.000Z> ThePhilosopher: You know enough retards on KF has their real name e-mails used.
<2022-09-24T15:17:40.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I spoke to Procrastinhater today. We are discussing the best way to attack the troon movement.
<2022-09-24T15:18:14.000Z> ThePhilosopher: It is all on the server.
<2022-09-24T15:18:16.000Z> Charlamagne: gay ops only strengthen them since they're gay
<2022-09-24T15:18:29.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yes, this is not gay ops per say.
<2022-09-24T15:18:46.000Z> Charlamagne: rdrama does troon gayops constantly and all it does is strengthen troons iron grip
<2022-09-24T15:19:18.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yea, it is not smart to start any shit where they run shit.
<2022-09-24T15:19:20.000Z> Charlamagne: rdrama exposed a reddit mod of using alts and posting gore and cp to take down subreddits he doesn't like, he still has his job
<2022-09-24T15:19:31.000Z> Charlamagne: bardfinn
<2022-09-24T15:19:39.000Z> ThePhilosopher: These people are so fucking vile.
<2022-09-24T15:20:04.000Z> ThePhilosopher: We were actually thinking more along the lines of setting up a safe space for detrans people as a start.
<2022-09-24T15:20:10.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Get them ex tech people.
<2022-09-24T15:20:41.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Attacking Keffals through gay ops is dumb. The movement needs to lose steam.
<2022-09-24T15:21:57.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I think it would be better to fight them by building spaces for their victims. 
<2022-09-24T15:23:29.000Z> ThePhilosopher: The creating public sympathy for people legitimately opressed by them.
<2022-09-24T16:25:33.000Z> Charlamagne: detrans people are fairly useless
<2022-09-24T16:25:47.000Z> ThePhilosopher: How come?
<2022-09-24T16:27:30.000Z> Charlamagne: i support them but they're cast out of any lgbt circle so their word means nothing to trannies. Only normies might be interested but believe me no normie wants to hear a weird mangirl talk about how other mangirls tricked them into lobbing off their genitals
<2022-09-24T16:28:43.000Z> Charlamagne: I'm interested and I've spoke with some of them throughout the years, they're mentally fucked and very few make a recovery mentally, let alone socially
<2022-09-24T16:29:59.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yea, I can imagine. It is horrible.
<2022-09-24T16:30:07.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Trooning out is so fucking bad.
<2022-09-24T16:30:32.000Z> Charlamagne: They get you with that affirmation bullshit
<2022-09-24T16:30:37.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I get that it is good for those who suffer from gender dysphoria. But imagine some kid jumping on that trend and then regretting it.
<2022-09-24T16:31:18.000Z> ThePhilosopher: From what I understand transexuals like Buck Angel still has his genetalia. Only top surgery.
<2022-09-24T16:31:22.000Z> Charlamagne: Imagine getting showered with compliments day in day out until you do something wrong. Then you're cast out, normal people don't want you because you're a delusional freak and delusional freaks don't want you because you might've said something normal
<2022-09-24T16:31:45.000Z> Charlamagne: That's where a lot of the suicide comes from
<2022-09-24T16:31:55.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yea, that is a rough life. But from what I see these people only exist online.
<2022-09-24T16:32:07.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Practically speaking that is.
<2022-09-24T16:32:26.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Whenever they try to do some troon protest 55-6 people show up.
<2022-09-24T16:32:39.000Z> ThePhilosopher: A true social movement would have hundreds.
<2022-09-24T16:35:11.000Z> Charlamagne: That's half true, the reason more trannies didn't show up at the Sydney protest was because Cloudflare had already dropped Kiwifarms. But yes, before all that my guess was no more than 10 people would attend, I even posted about it on KF funnily enough, very sloppily organized. There's lots of young people that attend trans protests unfortunately
<2022-09-24T16:35:26.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I don`t think the detrans alone are very useful. But there are many groups that have been fucked by these people. And if someone could unite them that could be powerful.
<2022-09-24T16:35:43.000Z> Charlamagne: search trans protest and you'll see mainly 17-25 year olds attending
<2022-09-24T16:35:59.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yes, and that is a massive problem.
<2022-09-24T16:36:10.000Z> ThePhilosopher: They will keep those attitudes for the next 50 years.
<2022-09-24T16:36:21.000Z> Charlamagne: mrgirl interviewed a few trans and detransitioners, it was alright
<2022-09-24T16:36:33.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Their stories are very powerful.
<2022-09-24T16:36:58.000Z> ThePhilosopher: See the one that the right wing people are peddling that the moment. 
<2022-09-24T16:37:25.000Z> Charlamagne: I was thinking of making a video on the subject. The one thing I want to tackle that I think is a big weak point is egghatching
<2022-09-24T16:37:37.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Agreed
<2022-09-24T16:37:45.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I was actually thinking down those same lines.
<2022-09-24T16:38:09.000Z> Charlamagne: reddit.com/r/egg_irl/
<2022-09-24T16:38:28.000Z> Charlamagne: this subreddit makes me fedposting levels of mad
<2022-09-24T16:38:55.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Can we just kill it with fire?
<2022-09-24T16:39:22.000Z> ThePhilosopher: We could collect data and make a documentary on this community.
<2022-09-24T16:39:35.000Z> Charlamagne: I want to make it seem non biased
<2022-09-24T16:39:36.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Not attacking trans people, we are just covering this spesific thing.
<2022-09-24T16:39:44.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yes!
<2022-09-24T16:39:46.000Z> Charlamagne: Honestly, I think if more parents learn about this they will lose their minds
<2022-09-24T16:39:53.000Z> ThePhilosopher: 100%
<2022-09-24T16:40:02.000Z> ThePhilosopher: A lot of kids will be off Discord.
<2022-09-24T16:40:31.000Z> Charlamagne: I dont think Discord as a service is the problem, I think the moderation of all big social medias are the issue
<2022-09-24T16:40:41.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Agreed
<2022-09-24T16:40:56.000Z> Charlamagne: You can get banned for fucking kids on all these platforms, you can't get banned for convincing them to become eunuchs
<2022-09-24T16:41:19.000Z> ThePhilosopher: It is so fucked. And MAPs are getting more accepted by the day.
<2022-09-24T16:41:31.000Z> Charlamagne: The limitation of free speech is what got us here, that's why gamergate was a turning point, it made it obvious that they can get away with everything
<2022-09-24T16:41:33.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Do you have a YT channel?
<2022-09-24T16:41:48.000Z> Charlamagne: I don't, but I can make one
<2022-09-24T16:41:57.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I know basic editing.
<2022-09-24T16:42:14.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I made a few, but I do not want to get doxed by putting my voice on anything.
<2022-09-24T16:42:27.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I was thinking anonymous is gonna make a return. 
<2022-09-24T16:42:28.000Z> Charlamagne: I'm fairly competent at editing, I have a good mic, I'm not very good at writing
<2022-09-24T16:42:46.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Are you up for creating a channel?
<2022-09-24T16:42:54.000Z> Charlamagne: yeah i don't mind
<2022-09-24T16:43:04.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I can help you with the writing and research.
<2022-09-24T16:43:19.000Z> ThePhilosopher: And there are plenty of topics.
<2022-09-24T16:43:23.000Z> Charlamagne: Hey quick question, if I make a youtube channel on a google account that already has multiple inactive channels and that channel gets banned do all other channels get banned also?
<2022-09-24T16:43:36.000Z> ThePhilosopher: But how about not just making it about trans stuff. So we draw a crowd.
<2022-09-24T16:43:54.000Z> ThePhilosopher: My understanding is only the one gets banned.,
<2022-09-24T16:44:02.000Z> ThePhilosopher: But I would make a clean one just in case.
<2022-09-24T16:44:36.000Z> ThePhilosopher: We can set up a work area in the server where only you and I have access.
<2022-09-24T16:45:41.000Z> Charlamagne: I don't know how to market it if it isn't directly targeting outraged conservatives
<2022-09-24T16:45:59.000Z> Charlamagne: mega.nz accounts give you 50gb free
<2022-09-24T16:46:04.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yes, the thing we will need to do is get it out to normies. And to do that we need more content.
<2022-09-24T16:46:39.000Z> ThePhilosopher: You need to make some other types of content. This also helps defend against being a pure hate channel.
<2022-09-24T16:46:51.000Z> ThePhilosopher: But it will be slow going at first.
<2022-09-24T16:48:38.000Z> Charlamagne: i think that's too elaboraet
<2022-09-24T16:48:59.000Z> ThePhilosopher: YouTube will not push your video until there is enough content on the channel.
<2022-09-24T16:49:19.000Z> Charlamagne: hey let's make several well researched videos to make a well researched video. The more content we put out the more obvious the bias will be
<2022-09-24T16:49:21.000Z> ThePhilosopher: The conservatards are all in it for money. So don`t expect any love there.
<2022-09-24T16:49:53.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yea, if you do it. Then you should do it because you want to make videos.
<2022-09-24T16:50:04.000Z> Charlamagne: we're not relying on algorithm we're relying on social media buzz
<2022-09-24T16:50:22.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I found that a lot of that buzz is not real.
<2022-09-24T16:50:31.000Z> Charlamagne: it's not real
<2022-09-24T16:50:34.000Z> ThePhilosopher: yes
<2022-09-24T16:50:55.000Z> Charlamagne: i g2g for an hour
<2022-09-24T16:51:05.000Z> ThePhilosopher: People are so desensitized that they no longer share stuff.
<2022-09-24T16:51:10.000Z> ThePhilosopher: see you later.
<2022-09-24T18:29:22.000Z> Charlamagne: back for a bit
<2022-09-24T18:29:42.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Just got home from the gym.
<2022-09-24T18:30:01.000Z> ThePhilosopher: sippin protein time.
<2022-09-24T18:31:58.000Z> ThePhilosopher: So what do you wanna do about the troon war?
<2022-09-24T18:32:29.000Z> Charlamagne: just put out good info with a smile
<2022-09-24T18:32:51.000Z> Charlamagne: their words mean nothing, transphobic, terf, chud, fascist. These words mean ZERO
<2022-09-24T18:32:57.000Z> ThePhilosopher: A one time video will probably not gain a lot of traction. And will be struck down as soon as a troon drone finds it.
<2022-09-24T18:33:19.000Z> ThePhilosopher: It means person they don`t like.
<2022-09-24T18:33:31.000Z> Charlamagne: A one time unoffensive video that I ask viewers to upload everywhere they can to avoid bans is something
<2022-09-24T18:33:36.000Z> ThePhilosopher: It is the same with our side. Nigger, kike, faggot, etc.
<2022-09-24T18:33:38.000Z> Charlamagne: torrentable 24/7
<2022-09-24T18:33:57.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Sure, but how many normies will see it?
<2022-09-24T18:33:59.000Z> Charlamagne: nigger, kike, faggot means something
<2022-09-24T18:34:10.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Not to us, we use them for everyone.
<2022-09-24T18:34:15.000Z> Charlamagne: oh yeah
<2022-09-24T18:34:28.000Z> ThePhilosopher: It is the same thing they are doing.
<2022-09-24T18:34:42.000Z> Charlamagne: I don't want the public knowing my bias or what funny words I use
<2022-09-24T18:35:01.000Z> ThePhilosopher: We use these words both ways though. I can call you a faggot and it does not raise your blood pressure. 
<2022-09-24T18:35:20.000Z> ThePhilosopher: But I know that if I do it to a troon they flip. Because it is like them calling me a nazi.
<2022-09-24T18:35:43.000Z> Charlamagne: I try not to let harsh words hurt me
<2022-09-24T18:35:43.000Z> ThePhilosopher: They probably call each other these things privately as a joke.
<2022-09-24T18:37:00.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I need to respect people to listen to their criticism. If they don`t know and love me they do not want what is best for me.
<2022-09-24T18:37:44.000Z> ThePhilosopher: As far as I am concerned everyone on the Internet are weird fed bots until otherwise proven. 
<2022-09-24T18:38:44.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I am very seriously contemplating just leaving the Internet as a whole though.
<2022-09-24T18:39:52.000Z> Charlamagne: Same
<2022-09-24T18:40:37.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I have been looking for a good community for a while. Somewhere people actually care about each other and help each other. But as far as I can tell that does not exist.
<2022-09-24T18:40:39.000Z> Charlamagne: it's one of the reasons I've been spending less and less time on the internetn
<2022-09-24T18:40:50.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I think that is good.
<2022-09-24T18:41:02.000Z> ThePhilosopher: The less time I spend online. The happier I get.
<2022-09-24T18:41:09.000Z> ThePhilosopher: But it is like a drug.
<2022-09-24T18:41:30.000Z> ThePhilosopher: There is no replacement for real friends on the Internet.
<2022-09-24T18:48:28.000Z> Charlamagne: I've met some internet friends IRL
<2022-09-24T18:48:37.000Z> Charlamagne: It was okay
<2022-09-24T18:49:31.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yea, I have done the same. They are usually radically different than what you expect.
<2022-09-24T19:48:12.000Z> Charlamagne: do you have any ideas for.videos?
<2022-09-24T19:48:30.000Z> ThePhilosopher: For troons?
<2022-09-24T19:53:05.000Z> Charlamagne: you said we need more videos
<2022-09-24T19:53:24.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Do you have any interests?
<2022-09-24T19:53:34.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Easier to make videos on things you like.
<2022-09-24T19:54:29.000Z> Charlamagne: Yeah okay so first video.is a roblox analysis and second video is KIDS ARE GROOMWD
<2022-09-24T19:54:43.000Z> ThePhilosopher: hahaha
<2022-09-24T19:55:00.000Z> ThePhilosopher: We are shit posters. But the problem is that Youtube hates that content.
<2022-09-24T19:58:54.000Z> Charlamagne: youtu.be/EjWatd2vWRI
<2022-09-24T19:59:02.000Z> Charlamagne: This is my friends work
<2022-09-24T19:59:35.000Z> Charlamagne: He can help out probably
<2022-09-24T20:01:15.000Z> ThePhilosopher: It is good!
<2022-09-24T20:01:27.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I am really enjoying smaller creators lately.
<2022-09-24T20:01:34.000Z> ThePhilosopher: We could go with the safe edgy.
<2022-09-24T20:01:42.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Where the edge is hidden bellow the algo.
<2022-09-24T20:01:49.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Like SSeth
<2022-09-24T20:03:24.000Z> Charlamagne: sseth is king
<2022-09-24T20:04:37.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yes, but making videos like that is interesting. He is hyper edgy.
<2022-09-24T20:04:41.000Z> ThePhilosopher: But never in trouble.
<2022-09-24T20:05:43.000Z> Charlamagne: uberdanger early on too
<2022-09-24T20:05:51.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yes, he was great!
<2022-09-24T20:06:24.000Z> Charlamagne: check out other attar videos in man channel
<2022-09-24T20:06:34.000Z> Charlamagne: i g2g
<2022-09-24T20:06:43.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I will
<2022-09-25T08:08:27.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Do you have an archive of the Liz Fong Jones thread?
<2022-09-25T08:45:13.000Z> Charlamagne: archive.ph/qLSfW
<2022-09-25T09:15:57.000Z> ThePhilosopher: God tier
<2022-09-25T09:51:32.000Z> Charlamagne: there was also a 2017 thread from when Liz got exposed for trans lifeline, a scam fundraiser. Liz threatened Null's service providers using a @google.com email address to look legitimate
<2022-09-25T10:06:21.000Z> ThePhilosopher: If you got those I would love them.
<2022-09-25T10:09:21.000Z> Charlamagne: archive.ph/U4d0h
<2022-09-25T10:10:22.000Z> ThePhilosopher: You are an archive god!
<2022-09-25T10:10:39.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I find that site so hard to navigate.
<2022-09-25T10:10:53.000Z> Charlamagne: archive.ph/sVL85
<2022-09-25T10:15:04.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Fren, I will now learn a lot about Liz.
<2022-09-25T10:18:29.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Are there any other interesting back channels that Kiwis use now?
<2022-09-25T10:19:00.000Z> Charlamagne: back channels?
<2022-09-25T10:19:15.000Z> ThePhilosopher: The Kiwi farms instance is down it seems. 
<2022-09-25T10:19:20.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I know about Telegram.
<2022-09-25T10:19:21.000Z> Charlamagne: The Telegram chat is cancer
<2022-09-25T10:19:27.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yea, I know.
<2022-09-25T10:19:39.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I just wanna sneed with the chill kiwis.
<2022-09-25T10:19:51.000Z> ThePhilosopher: But G man seems to be sick of us.
<2022-09-25T10:20:22.000Z> Charlamagne: No it's just poast and chudbuds afaik, some migrated to rdrama and it's fedi instance.
<2022-09-25T10:20:59.000Z> ThePhilosopher: rdrama would mean having to deal with Redditors.
<2022-09-25T10:21:04.000Z> ThePhilosopher: And that is a price to high.
<2022-09-25T10:21:11.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I guess I am staying on Poast.
<2022-09-25T10:21:46.000Z> Charlamagne: I have no issue primarily posting about Kiwifarms here on poa.st I just don't get involved in the Loli drama
<2022-09-25T10:22:44.000Z> Charlamagne: I don't know if the poa.st Kiwifarms matrix group is still up, somebody said it got shut down 
<2022-09-25T10:22:52.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yea, there is some loli here. But I have not seen that much to be fair. Do I have to make a new account for cudbuds?
<2022-09-25T10:23:37.000Z> Charlamagne: you can make a new account on chudbuds or migrate account, just make sure to export following list
<2022-09-25T10:24:06.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Is chudbuds good?
<2022-09-25T10:25:02.000Z> Charlamagne: it's alright, some of the most annoying kiwis are there but I like the lady that runs the instance
<2022-09-25T10:25:39.000Z> Charlamagne: did you run into trouble posting about kiwifarms?
<2022-09-25T10:25:56.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I see, there are some true retarts on the farms. My biggest issue is with people being edgy just for the sake of it.
<2022-09-25T10:26:12.000Z> Charlamagne: not much will change on other instances, all that matters is if you follow cool people and if cool people follow you
<2022-09-25T10:26:26.000Z> ThePhilosopher: No, I have had no trouble. G man (I don`t write his name in case it triggers a listener) is cool.
<2022-09-25T10:26:56.000Z> Charlamagne: yeah I like him a lot, milk too
<2022-09-25T10:27:10.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Agreed, I am happy with the people on here.
<2022-09-25T10:27:24.000Z> ThePhilosopher: We can start a new life here! Maybe things will be better this time.
<2022-09-25T10:27:35.000Z> Charlamagne: If I were to ever move instance I would go to Gleasonator, normie instance
<2022-09-25T10:28:12.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yea, I get that.
<2022-09-25T10:28:31.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I think the problem with hanging out on this site of the Internet is that you become very unrelatable to normies.
<2022-09-25T10:28:46.000Z> Charlamagne: I like nicecrew too, ran by wignat guy but very funny, they purge DMs every week so it's more private in a sense
<2022-09-25T10:28:50.000Z> ThePhilosopher: There is literally zero normies who knows who any of our cows are.
<2022-09-25T10:28:59.000Z> Charlamagne: oh yeah
<2022-09-25T10:30:03.000Z> ThePhilosopher: We have talked about this previously. Getting of the net, etc.
<2022-09-25T10:30:25.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I may just go become a monk or something.
<2022-09-25T10:34:46.000Z> Charlamagne: monk life is good
<2022-09-25T10:35:47.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yea, just chilling in Himalayan mountains and being one with everything.
<2022-09-25T10:36:18.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Do you think those monks sometimes things: "I wonder if I would be happier shit posting on 4Chan"?
<2022-09-25T10:36:22.000Z> Charlamagne: I think about stuff like that often but I think it's just escapism for me
<2022-09-25T10:36:39.000Z> Charlamagne: Nah the monks don't give a shit about 4chan
<2022-09-25T10:36:57.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Who knows, would be funny.
<2022-09-25T10:37:09.000Z> Charlamagne: For a few years I didn't either
<2022-09-25T10:37:18.000Z> ThePhilosopher: What happened?
<2022-09-25T10:38:27.000Z> Charlamagne: was just focused on life, work stuff like that
<2022-09-25T10:39:01.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I wonder of we humans are just made to stay busy. Like we were never meant to reach the top of Maslows pyramid.
<2022-09-25T10:39:03.000Z> Charlamagne: was interesting how a few months after I got back the whole Kiwifarms debacle happened
<2022-09-25T10:39:21.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Basically your fault then!
<2022-09-25T10:41:26.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I think you wanting to spend more time in the real world is the best thing you can do.
<2022-09-25T10:42:17.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I started watching the MATI podcast about two years ago. And made an account after a while.
<2022-09-25T10:42:56.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I wish Josh would do more person streams and just go back to covering the "news".
<2022-09-25T10:43:07.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I am so sick of the troon war. I just wanna chill.
<2022-09-25T10:50:47.000Z> Charlamagne: Troon war only just started
<2022-09-25T10:51:02.000Z> ThePhilosopher: youtube.com/watch?v=-R6BcdYGzRk&list=PL71UjC7NQBj6jkd62hDNorYCUrN12lc8b&index=27
<2022-09-25T10:51:36.000Z> Charlamagne: let me hop on humildes in a bit, haven't done so before because I'm visiting family
<2022-09-25T10:52:41.000Z> ThePhilosopher: humildes?
<2022-09-25T11:12:12.000Z> Charlamagne: wtf
<2022-09-25T11:12:25.000Z> Charlamagne: did it autocorrect guilded?
<2022-09-25T11:14:51.000Z> ThePhilosopher: probably
<2022-09-26T11:49:02.000Z> ThePhilosopher: You know, I hate to sympathize with Ethan Ralph. But his alogs are fucking cringe dude. Every time he posts the same 5-7 people just spam the same insults over and over.
<2022-09-26T11:49:41.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Anytime someone mentions him same thing. 
<2022-09-26T11:49:59.000Z> ThePhilosopher: It is like "Haha! Did you see how I called him a sex offender for the 17th time?"
<2022-09-26T11:50:52.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I am cool with trolling, it is just painfully obvious how unoriginal and unfunny most people are.
<2022-09-26T12:01:22.000Z> Charlamagne: yeah ralph a-logs are pathetic I don't pay him no mind I think he's a mess
<2022-09-26T12:01:43.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Nah, but I find he is somewhat justified in his anger. 
<2022-09-26T12:02:01.000Z> ThePhilosopher: He is not a good person. But he is being picked on constantly. 
<2022-09-26T12:02:17.000Z> ThePhilosopher: It is all very gay.
<2022-09-26T12:02:41.000Z> Charlamagne: he doesn't deserve to have his life ruined, there's lots of weening going on, but he keeps feeding the trolls
<2022-09-26T12:02:57.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yea, I know he is making every mistake possible.
<2022-09-26T12:03:19.000Z> Charlamagne: that's why he gets compared with Keffals, they both can't keep their mouth shut and they both make up victories out of thin air to gloat about
<2022-09-26T12:03:20.000Z> ThePhilosopher: But the alogs are actually the type of people that make the rest of the community look like shit.
<2022-09-26T12:03:56.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I agree, I just wish people could realize how painfully unfunny they are.
<2022-09-26T12:04:10.000Z> Charlamagne: I'd rather Ethan be irrelevant, he's a liability to everyone around him and he's an awful person, but I wouldn't pick on him
<2022-09-26T12:04:16.000Z> ThePhilosopher: No need to fuck with Ralph. He is more than entertaining enough on his own.
<2022-09-26T12:04:42.000Z> ThePhilosopher: If someone is not funny when not being bullied. Then they are not a lolcow.
<2022-09-26T12:05:07.000Z> Charlamagne: I think Jim is the one that overdid it with the Ralph slander but Jim has a reason, Ralph has mobilized his small fanbase to report and swat Jim
<2022-09-26T12:05:40.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I get the milking, but people are so retarded. There could be some great trolling of him. But the constant attack is making that hard. 
<2022-09-26T12:06:02.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yea, Jim and Josh go hard after him. And I think that is fine. Because they are just talking about him.
<2022-09-26T12:06:14.000Z> ThePhilosopher: That is different from interacting with him.
<2022-09-26T12:08:42.000Z> Charlamagne: Josh has openly said on the forum that Ralph A-logs are faggots that want to see Ralph broke, homeless and dead and will stop at nothing, he sees no fun in it, he finds fun in Ralphs reactions from time to time
<2022-09-26T12:09:25.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yea, I find I believe Josh when he said it. Because it hurts him when people do shit like that.
<2022-09-26T12:09:31.000Z> Charlamagne: That's one of the reasons he shut down the Guntchat
<2022-09-26T12:10:02.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yea, but there are a lot of sad and angry people on the Internet. And they were probably bullied at some point. And now it is finally time for revenge.
<2022-09-26T12:10:30.000Z> Charlamagne: Maybe I mixed Josh's take on Ralph A-logs with his take on Wings A-Logs, they're both fat
<2022-09-26T12:10:57.000Z> ThePhilosopher: True, but it is the same none the less. The "They are bad so I am justified" is the attitude on both.
<2022-09-26T12:11:10.000Z> Charlamagne: Pretty much
<2022-09-26T12:11:41.000Z> Charlamagne: I for one don't want to see either dead, rhe best that could happen is they become irrelevant and finally get a job
<2022-09-26T12:12:01.000Z> ThePhilosopher: That is never happening for any of them.
<2022-09-26T12:12:12.000Z> ThePhilosopher: They have such an attitude that they could never take orders.
<2022-09-26T12:12:20.000Z> Charlamagne: It will happen eventually, unless they die in their late 30s-40s
<2022-09-26T12:12:34.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Nah, I think they are not able bodied anymore.
<2022-09-26T12:12:44.000Z> ThePhilosopher: They will go on benefits or something equivalent.
<2022-09-26T12:13:10.000Z> ThePhilosopher: They have no qualifications, they are morbidly obese and  anyone who googles their names will hate them.
<2022-09-26T12:13:19.000Z> Charlamagne: Yeah maybe, spiritually they are perma Neets
<2022-09-26T12:13:30.000Z> ThePhilosopher: There is just no way.
<2022-09-26T12:13:46.000Z> Charlamagne: I doubt people will tune in to troll after a while
<2022-09-26T12:13:51.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Let`s for a minute say you are Ethan Ralph. What do you do? How do you unfuck your life?
<2022-09-26T12:14:00.000Z> Charlamagne: Look at britbong he gets 20 viewers
<2022-09-26T12:14:19.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yea, and at that point they will probably die or get government benefits.
<2022-09-26T12:14:59.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Ethan Ralph is an alcoholic. He will never lose weight until that is dealt with. And he will have to lose 50-60 kg before he has a functioning body.
<2022-09-26T12:15:18.000Z> ThePhilosopher: So 1-2 years to kick alcohol. He probably loses 10-15 kg in that time.
<2022-09-26T12:15:28.000Z> Charlamagne: If I was Ethan... Either quit the internet and spend more time with my estranged children or start scouting for new angry retards so I can start the killstream again
<2022-09-26T12:15:30.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Then another 4 years to get to a healthy size.
<2022-09-26T12:16:03.000Z> ThePhilosopher: And this is assuming perfect discipline. And he has not got that. 
<2022-09-26T12:16:32.000Z> Charlamagne: He is incentivized to be a useless piece of shit
<2022-09-26T12:16:39.000Z> ThePhilosopher: indeed he is.
<2022-09-26T12:16:56.000Z> Charlamagne: I look at Ethan and I see a 9 year old crybully that was never told no
<2022-09-26T12:17:11.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yea, he has had weight problems all his life.
<2022-09-26T12:17:22.000Z> Charlamagne: He even looks like an ugly obese child, has all the mannerisms
<2022-09-26T12:17:29.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Healthy food is probably as repulsive to him as anything you can imagine. 
<2022-09-26T12:18:00.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I used to work with heavy drug users for a while. Their metal capacity stops evolving where the heavy drug use begins. 
<2022-09-26T12:18:10.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I think it is to a degree the same with fast food.
<2022-09-26T12:18:12.000Z> Charlamagne: Honestly I think this is good content, trying to get Ethan to slim up. We can make it a reality show
<2022-09-26T12:18:29.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yea, it would be to expensive and risky though. 
<2022-09-26T12:18:34.000Z> ThePhilosopher: 99% chance he fails.
<2022-09-26T12:18:48.000Z> Charlamagne: Doesn't matter if the viewers are paying
<2022-09-26T12:18:52.000Z> ThePhilosopher: And a camera crew would have to follow him and create content for 4-5 years.
<2022-09-26T12:19:15.000Z> Charlamagne: I wonder if we can receive a grant from AF
<2022-09-26T12:19:16.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Also the haters don`t want him to improve. So there needs to be a new audience.
<2022-09-26T12:19:30.000Z> Charlamagne: The Nick Fuentes Gunt Grant
<2022-09-26T12:19:41.000Z> ThePhilosopher: That would be interesting.
<2022-09-26T12:19:51.000Z> ThePhilosopher: It would need to be north og 500K.
<2022-09-26T12:20:21.000Z> Charlamagne attached file https://i.poastcdn.org/5634ac94d6f994a4c77979e5d137963c2acff3285e7d141764b7322995e56b74.jpg
<2022-09-26T12:20:37.000Z> ThePhilosopher: He could be a handsome lad.
<2022-09-26T12:20:59.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Is that a filter? It looks really good.
<2022-09-26T12:21:26.000Z> ThePhilosopher: It looks crazy good, would have never suspected if I just saw the pic.
<2022-09-26T12:21:26.000Z> Charlamagne: Idk he posted it in 2018 with the caption "Out of Exile"
<2022-09-26T12:21:56.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Nah, he looks healthy there.
<2022-09-26T12:22:03.000Z> ThePhilosopher: How fat was he in 2018?
<2022-09-26T12:25:37.000Z> ThePhilosopher: We could call it "From holder of gunt to smasher of cunts."
<2022-09-26T12:27:13.000Z> Charlamagne: washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/gamergate-activist-charged-with-assault-on-officers-public-intoxication-in-virginia/2016/09/09/2751f216-76ac-11e6-8149-b8d05321db62_story.html https://i.poastcdn.org/323444f1eeb05678c2164d13b45b5ab2c2b042b1c5a5b612439394577e31a42d.png
<2022-09-26T12:27:26.000Z> Charlamagne: I didn't pay attention to him in 2018
<2022-09-26T12:27:41.000Z> Charlamagne: He wasn't even a big deal during gamergate
<2022-09-26T12:27:50.000Z> ThePhilosopher: He looks slightly overweight. But nothing I could not fix in 12 weeks.
<2022-09-26T12:28:34.000Z> Charlamagne attached file https://i.poastcdn.org/9d630955d84b673be3f7269c18826d1048f6a034eaab6cbd262fb195897d8ef7.png
<2022-09-26T12:28:54.000Z> ThePhilosopher: He must have lost a lot of weight at some point.
<2022-09-26T12:29:35.000Z> ThePhilosopher: poa.st/objects/186741a7-ea88-4044-9be8-446d9927acc7
<2022-09-26T12:29:41.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Let`s see if he bites.
<2022-09-26T12:30:54.000Z> Charlamagne: That would be great
<2022-09-26T12:31:00.000Z> ThePhilosopher: He follows me on poast.
<2022-09-26T12:31:05.000Z> ThePhilosopher: So he will probably see it.
<2022-09-26T12:31:15.000Z> Charlamagne: Nobody interacts with his posts lmao
<2022-09-26T12:31:26.000Z> Charlamagne: How do you feel about Dick Masterson?
<2022-09-26T12:31:37.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Nah dude, I started the most insane hell thread with him.
<2022-09-26T12:32:28.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Do you think Nick would buy it?
<2022-09-26T12:32:48.000Z> Charlamagne: I think it would take a bit of effort to get nick invested
<2022-09-26T12:33:06.000Z> Charlamagne: Nick doesn't seem to care much about Ralph anymore
<2022-09-26T12:34:12.000Z> Charlamagne: The Kino Casino adventure in Ralph's swamp only got 20k views in a week
<2022-09-26T12:34:54.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yea, he is not a big name. But this could attract a different crowd. Like obesetobeast.
<2022-09-26T12:35:01.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Imagine a right wing obesetobeast.
<2022-09-26T12:36:37.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I think that would be his best revenge against the alogs.
<2022-09-26T12:36:50.000Z> ThePhilosopher: They would HATE it if his life improved beyond theirs.
<2022-09-26T12:37:48.000Z> Charlamagne: Honestly I think it would be one of the most motivating cases of weight loss ever
<2022-09-26T12:38:00.000Z> ThePhilosopher: For sure, I would pay to watch it.
<2022-09-26T12:38:03.000Z> Charlamagne: "If Ralph did it so can I"
<2022-09-26T12:38:08.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I would even help out.
<2022-09-26T12:38:24.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yea, if that retard can get his life in order. Then who is to far gone?
<2022-09-26T12:41:59.000Z> Charlamagne: There's this youtube series by Vice(probably?) called the Therapist where these hard rappers like YG and Chief Keef sit down with a therapist and have a pretty honest introspective conversation, I would pay to watch Ralph do that
<2022-09-26T12:43:10.000Z> ThePhilosopher: agreed!
<2022-09-26T12:43:30.000Z> ThePhilosopher: But due to the nature of his illness. There would be a lot of ethical problems showing it. 
<2022-09-26T12:43:44.000Z> ThePhilosopher: He would also probably never be completely honest with a camera on the room.
<2022-09-26T12:51:27.000Z> Charlamagne: muh... mother.... i ... loved that woman....
<2022-09-26T12:51:37.000Z> Charlamagne: My dog.... I hung that dog...
<2022-09-26T12:59:05.000Z> ThePhilosopher: hahaha
<2022-09-26T12:59:30.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yea, but I think he would have a lot of value from talking about it to someone who did not judge.
<2022-09-26T13:03:09.000Z> ThePhilosopher: He is not super active here. So it remains to be seen though.
<2022-09-26T13:06:54.000Z> Charlamagne: You should superchat on his next stream to get him to read it
<2022-09-26T13:37:54.000Z> ThePhilosopher: No need, if he sees it, he sees it. Not first time someone suggested this.
<2022-09-26T16:32:26.000Z> ThePhilosopher: He responded.
<2022-09-26T16:42:06.000Z> Charlamagne: poast keeps dropping for me
<2022-09-26T16:43:14.000Z> Charlamagne: I'm messaging Jim
<2022-09-26T18:14:07.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yea, keeps dropping for me aswell.
<2022-09-26T18:14:20.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I will keep talking to Ralph and see what kind of terms he would be cool with.
<2022-09-26T18:25:01.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Graf is probably jannying hard to keep the site alive atm.
<2022-09-26T18:40:59.000Z> Charlamagne: Are you near Mexico?
<2022-09-26T18:41:16.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Nope, how come?
<2022-09-26T18:41:29.000Z> Charlamagne: That's where he resides apparently if you wanna meet up or be his cameraman
<2022-09-26T18:42:10.000Z> Charlamagne: I think we should convince him to go to Portugal again 🤣
<2022-09-26T18:42:19.000Z> ThePhilosopher: hahaha, nad.
<2022-09-26T18:42:22.000Z> ThePhilosopher: nah
<2022-09-26T18:42:28.000Z> Charlamagne: I was planning on visiting around November for a trip
<2022-09-26T18:43:57.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I would train him. But he needs more than a trainer.
<2022-09-26T18:46:54.000Z> Charlamagne: he needs to be locked in a room until his lust for xanax bars is curbed
<2022-09-26T18:49:48.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yea, he needs treatment.
<2022-09-26T19:06:27.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I am on gilded.
<2022-09-26T19:06:35.000Z> ThePhilosopher: This site is broken atm.
<2022-09-26T19:41:39.000Z> ThePhilosopher: poa.st/objects/fe4a642d-5908-4ba0-8671-5f283e75da59
<2022-09-26T20:27:27.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I give this show a 0,5% chance of happening.
<2022-09-27T16:31:09.000Z> Charlamagne: The farms are up!
<2022-09-27T16:31:16.000Z> Charlamagne: Barely functioning but still alive
<2022-09-27T17:49:34.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Troons ape rage incoming.
<2022-09-27T17:51:00.000Z> Charlamagne: Do you know any way to automate archiving subdomains on archive.ph?
<2022-09-27T17:51:48.000Z> Charlamagne: Also, I'm sort of worried archive.ph will follow wayback machine's footsteps regarding Kiwifarms
<2022-09-27T18:50:10.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yea, they are not to be trusted.
<2022-09-27T18:50:24.000Z> ThePhilosopher: The Internet is getting smaller and smaller.
<2022-09-27T18:50:32.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I think it will be on Torrent soon.
<2022-09-27T18:50:54.000Z> ThePhilosopher: But the troons want their dirt offline so they can go after people with a clean past.
<2022-09-27T18:50:59.000Z> Charlamagne: Josh said it will be on torrent if the site goes down for good
<2022-09-27T18:51:07.000Z> Charlamagne: Also you can just DDOS torrent seeders
<2022-09-27T18:51:10.000Z> ThePhilosopher: hard to be the morally just one when you have that much dirt.
<2022-09-27T18:51:35.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yea, but no use attacking on torrents.
<2022-09-27T18:51:40.000Z> ThePhilosopher: No one will find it.
<2022-09-27T18:53:31.000Z> Charlamagne: idk if you're good with technical stuff
<2022-09-27T18:53:34.000Z> Charlamagne: github.com/oduwsdl/ipwb
<2022-09-27T18:53:46.000Z> Charlamagne: can this be realistically set up for kiwifarms?
<2022-09-27T18:53:59.000Z> ThePhilosopher: What is it?
<2022-09-27T18:54:32.000Z> ThePhilosopher: idk, probably-
<2022-09-27T18:54:39.000Z> Charlamagne: it's like peer to peer internet archive
<2022-09-27T18:54:46.000Z> ThePhilosopher: But all these "permanent" solutions tend to have admin access.
<2022-09-27T18:55:06.000Z> ThePhilosopher: You see it with the crypto retards all the time.
<2022-09-27T18:55:20.000Z> ThePhilosopher: "It`s on the blockchain bro! No way to stop it bro!"
<2022-09-27T18:55:28.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Then poof, network gone.
<2022-09-27T18:55:28.000Z> Charlamagne: Oh you mean decentralized crypto solutions and "DAOs"?
<2022-09-27T18:55:38.000Z> Charlamagne: Yeah I understnad
<2022-09-27T18:55:44.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yea, there is always someone with admin access.
<2022-09-27T18:55:59.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Not having it is detrimental. There is no viable trustless solution. 
<2022-09-27T18:56:08.000Z> Charlamagne: But this isn't a service, this is software you host yourself via Docker
<2022-09-27T18:56:28.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Sure, but does the owner of the network have access to take it down?
<2022-09-27T18:56:37.000Z> ThePhilosopher: What if someone hosts murder porn?
<2022-09-27T18:56:58.000Z> ThePhilosopher: And all the other shit you know people will host there.
<2022-09-27T18:57:06.000Z> Charlamagne: You can literally make the same argument about torrent
<2022-09-27T18:57:18.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yea, you find those things on Torrent.
<2022-09-27T18:57:27.000Z> Charlamagne: But peer to peer ensures the data isn't messed with since it's validated from peer to peer
<2022-09-27T18:57:31.000Z> ThePhilosopher: And the sites unlist them. Making them practically impossible to find.
<2022-09-27T18:58:01.000Z> Charlamagne: yeah but I can't go on any random torrent and alter data to make unsuspecting people download murder porn
<2022-09-27T18:58:26.000Z> ThePhilosopher: That is true, but at that point is may as well be on your own hard drive.
<2022-09-27T18:58:30.000Z> ThePhilosopher: No one has access to it.
<2022-09-27T18:58:44.000Z> Charlamagne: That's why I have to look into this but my brain is too small
<2022-09-27T18:59:01.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yea, I know econ. Not much of a tech guy.
<2022-09-27T18:59:19.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I am way beyond your average Joe. But probably so are you on account of being here.
<2022-09-27T19:00:14.000Z> Charlamagne: I think this IPFS solution is good, with enough people hosting it simultaneously it is decentralized, unalterable and accessible for everyone. This is all theoretical and only works in a static image of the website, but it's much better than relying on third party services
<2022-09-27T19:00:40.000Z> Charlamagne: There is no "admin" of a torrent, once it's up it's up and once it's down it's down
<2022-09-27T19:00:50.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I think creating a fediverse and mirroring threads there using bots could be viable.
<2022-09-27T19:01:24.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Then giving anyone who wants to clone that fediverse free access.
<2022-09-27T19:01:42.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Meaning you could host a kiwi farms.
<2022-09-27T19:01:48.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Like the archiving channels do.
<2022-09-27T19:04:15.000Z> Charlamagne: Do you mean the archiving channels on odysee and poast.tv?
<2022-09-27T19:04:22.000Z> ThePhilosopher: yea
<2022-09-27T19:04:36.000Z> ThePhilosopher: But I imagine there are many terrabytes. 
<2022-09-27T19:08:53.000Z> Charlamagne: The thing is, if somebody really wanted to take down poast.tv they could, if they lie enough they could get DDOS mitigation to drop them and them DDoS the shit out of it, I think it's hosted on many servers. I don't think any of the videos would be accessible to other instances after that. When poa.st is down and you try to access poa.st content from another instance very little is indexed, mostly text.
<2022-09-27T19:09:04.000Z> Charlamagne: Fediverse isn't a solution for long term archival
<2022-09-27T19:09:29.000Z> Charlamagne: Unless I'm completely wrong, if so G-Man please DM me
<2022-09-27T19:09:58.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yea, I have no idea.
<2022-09-27T19:10:06.000Z> ThePhilosopher: The fact is that we are living in a post truth time.
<2022-09-27T19:10:20.000Z> ThePhilosopher: And everything we love is fragile and in need of protection.
<2022-09-27T19:16:02.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I think the focus should be to protect what we have. Not just to have backup for when it gets taken away.
<2022-09-27T19:16:47.000Z> Charlamagne: I've been getting more and more irregularly angry at the internet these past few weeks
<2022-09-27T19:17:01.000Z> Charlamagne: I don't think this is good for me, or anyone for that matter
<2022-09-27T19:17:03.000Z> ThePhilosopher: No wonder, Keffals is a piece of shit.
<2022-09-27T19:17:08.000Z> ThePhilosopher: It is not.
<2022-09-27T19:17:14.000Z> Charlamagne: I don't think it's just Keffals
<2022-09-27T19:17:17.000Z> Charlamagne: Jim said it best
<2022-09-27T19:17:28.000Z> Charlamagne: Keffals is just the most recent useful idiot
<2022-09-27T19:17:42.000Z> Charlamagne: If it wasn't Keffals it would be some other grifter crying wolf
<2022-09-27T19:17:51.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Agreed, very clear figurehead for the criminal arm of the left.
<2022-09-27T19:17:55.000Z> Charlamagne: Keffals is still fairly unpopular despite what articles say
<2022-09-27T19:18:07.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yes, there are more and more people waking up.
<2022-09-27T19:18:28.000Z> ThePhilosopher: The biggest thing we can do is to not start hating all trans / gay people.
<2022-09-27T19:18:42.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I spesifically hate the ones that want to take my speech away and fuck kids.
<2022-09-27T19:19:11.000Z> Charlamagne: Yeah being a reactionary because of a bunch of loud internet crybullies is dumb
<2022-09-27T19:20:03.000Z> Charlamagne: And I don't want people to reactionarily take the opposite siide
<2022-09-27T19:20:32.000Z> Charlamagne: OH TRANNIES WANT TO CENSOR YOU? GUESS WHO WILL SAVE YOU, NAZIS
<2022-09-27T19:20:52.000Z> ThePhilosopher: We are not sympathetic. Out cause is complex and takes time to explain and understand. Worsened by the fact that there are those among us that insist on pushing the boundaries to the extreme.
<2022-09-27T19:21:40.000Z> ThePhilosopher: The left hates us for making fun of them. The right hates us for being the example of bad free speech they have to begrudgingly defend. 
<2022-09-27T19:23:56.000Z> Charlamagne: I think part of me was pushed too far, I have grown to dismiss all identity politics, I've grown good at getting normies on my side too, even baby libtards
<2022-09-27T19:24:21.000Z> Charlamagne: I have memorized a lot of the bullshit argumentation "the left" uses 
<2022-09-27T19:24:57.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Sure, I don`t wanna engage in political discussion with people. I just wanna be left alone.
<2022-09-27T19:26:38.000Z> Charlamagne: The thing I'm split on in the trans thing is, is transitioning even useful to the tiny tiny minority of actual gender dysphorics? I used to think so but I find it hard to believe that there exists a monolithic mental disorder that is only solved via surgery and social acceptance
<2022-09-27T19:27:00.000Z> ThePhilosopher: It is weird for sure.
<2022-09-27T19:27:07.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Seems to help some of them.
<2022-09-27T19:29:04.000Z> ThePhilosopher: It reminds me of those people who want a limb removed. I had a friend who has a fetish for amutees. 
<2022-09-27T19:29:21.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I wanted to bang a chick who was missing a leg or arm.
<2022-09-27T19:29:27.000Z> Charlamagne: Only person I can think of is Wendy Carlos maybe
<2022-09-27T19:29:41.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Buck Angel and Blaire white?
<2022-09-27T19:29:54.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Buck does not have bottom.
<2022-09-27T19:29:59.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Don`t know about white.
<2022-09-27T19:30:44.000Z> Charlamagne: I've never watched anything White related but I've seen Buck Angel on a few Destiny panels
<2022-09-27T19:30:48.000Z> Charlamagne: I don't know really
<2022-09-27T19:31:15.000Z> ThePhilosopher: We never know what these people really feel like. I have been on the inside of social media influencer land.
<2022-09-27T19:31:25.000Z> ThePhilosopher: And it is all fake.
<2022-09-27T19:31:40.000Z> Charlamagne: Buck Angel's cool but I really doubted it when he said "I would kill myself if I didn't transition, even if it was the 80s"
<2022-09-27T19:32:01.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I like Buck, we have had a few good chats in DMs.
<2022-09-27T19:32:34.000Z> Charlamagne: maybe it's so biased because ALL the old friends of mine that transitioned had developed a crossdressing overly submissive fetish
<2022-09-27T19:32:39.000Z> Charlamagne: I'm so*
<2022-09-27T19:33:01.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Maybe, it is very hard to be objective about this.
<2022-09-27T19:33:53.000Z> ThePhilosopher: If they were all Buck Angel and Blaire White you would never convince me to hate them.
<2022-09-27T19:34:22.000Z> Charlamagne: Growing up with them there was never a point that made them seem off, they were insecure about their bodies in their teens (fairly common) and eventually started spending more and more time in internet fetish groups (mainly furry), their family grew disillusioned with them, and they became trannies
<2022-09-27T19:34:22.000Z> ThePhilosopher: They are sex weirdoes, but who cares?
<2022-09-27T19:34:55.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yea, I think there is a big social component to trans.
<2022-09-27T19:34:57.000Z> Charlamagne: I don't hate trans people and I don't hate gays, that isn't the point, I like Buck Angel
<2022-09-27T19:36:11.000Z> ThePhilosopher: You wanna enact real change?
<2022-09-27T19:36:35.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Become a member of the political party that aligns closes to your values. Then show up for the meetings.
<2022-09-27T19:36:47.000Z> ThePhilosopher: You can be worth hundreds of votes just doing that.
<2022-09-27T19:36:58.000Z> Charlamagne: I just feel like a lot of trans people are products of grooming and I'm not even sure if trans is a thing. I've spoken to various psychiatrists about this and they say trans is a thing but then they can't argue much when I point out how unlikely it is that it's a monolithic illness
<2022-09-27T19:37:32.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yea, I think they are not gonna go out on a limb and say different.
<2022-09-27T19:37:41.000Z> Charlamagne: The vast majority agree on DSM V being bullshit
<2022-09-27T19:37:56.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yes, that was mostly a political move.
<2022-09-27T19:38:11.000Z> ThePhilosopher: It was the first big step for what is happening now.
<2022-09-27T19:38:26.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Same way gays were accepted. 
<2022-09-27T19:38:45.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Started with a slight change in the filing system for class of mental illness.
<2022-09-27T19:41:03.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Probably a lot of the same activists involved even.
<2022-09-27T19:45:52.000Z> Charlamagne: trans activists in the early 2010s harassed members of the APA to get it removed
<2022-09-27T19:46:22.000Z> Charlamagne: psmag.com/social-justice/take-gender-identity-disorder-dsm-68308
<2022-09-27T19:46:24.000Z> Charlamagne: Here you go
<2022-09-27T19:46:28.000Z> ThePhilosopher: They bully people relentlessly. Journos I have been talking to don`t wanna write about bad trans people.
<2022-09-27T19:47:03.000Z> ThePhilosopher: They know to not take on anyone to powerful. 
<2022-09-27T19:47:32.000Z> Charlamagne: I think another friend joined the guilded
<2022-09-27T19:47:46.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Not yet
<2022-09-27T19:49:22.000Z> Charlamagne: I want to interview ex members of the APA on this
<2022-09-27T19:49:42.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yea, but we need connections to get it published somewhere that matters.
<2022-09-27T19:49:52.000Z> ThePhilosopher: No one wants to touch it.
<2022-09-27T19:50:03.000Z> ThePhilosopher: And for every thing they cancel they become more powerful.
<2022-09-27T19:51:22.000Z> Charlamagne: I don't care at this point, I would work with a shit peddler like Matt Walsh if it meant the truth is spread, the problem is these daily wire retards are the reason we're here in the first place
<2022-09-27T19:51:35.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Matt Walsh is never gonna touch this.
<2022-09-27T19:51:38.000Z> Charlamagne: Instead of addressing the issue they milked content out of retarded trans activists in the 2010s
<2022-09-27T19:52:06.000Z> ThePhilosopher: They are happy to bully micro influencers to no end. But they will never take on the actual movement.
<2022-09-27T19:52:09.000Z> Charlamagne: Guess fucking what conservacuck retard? You just signal boosted the retards you claim to be against
<2022-09-27T19:52:13.000Z> ThePhilosopher: They are all full of shit.
<2022-09-27T19:53:48.000Z> Charlamagne: I have no solutions honestly
<2022-09-27T19:54:01.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Same here
<2022-09-27T19:54:13.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I have talked to a lot of the people in the conservatard space.
<2022-09-27T19:54:21.000Z> ThePhilosopher: None of them are interested in this.
<2022-09-27T19:56:03.000Z> Charlamagne: What do you do? Do you kick out all the retards from Academia? Do you jail random retards you suspect are trans activists, essentially getting rid of the first amendment? Do you let the country crumble over non-issues? It's all so fucked. The reason Democrats have weaponized this retarded backwards ass thinking is because it keeps people too busy infighting.
<2022-09-27T19:56:45.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yes, and there is no way to solve it without killing liberty.
<2022-09-27T19:56:58.000Z> Charlamagne: Who will walk on eggshells the most?
<2022-09-27T19:57:00.000Z> ThePhilosopher: The hope is that good people will prevail.
<2022-09-27T19:57:16.000Z> ThePhilosopher: But you cannot stop evil people from corrupting your youth.
<2022-09-27T19:57:35.000Z> Charlamagne: The reason we're here is because some retards thought censoring public political discourse on major social media was a great fucking idea
<2022-09-27T19:57:55.000Z> Charlamagne: 20 years ago the nazi retards were fighting the commie retards, they kept each other busy
<2022-09-27T19:58:00.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yes, I think the solution would be to have a fully government owned social media.
<2022-09-27T19:58:09.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Only limited by the letter of the law.
<2022-09-27T19:58:44.000Z> Charlamagne: keep regular sane people out of this retarded culture war
<2022-09-27T19:58:52.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Even better, government owned Internet infrastructure. (Hosting, DDoS, etc) That anyone could use and that simply follows the law.
<2022-09-27T19:59:20.000Z> Charlamagne: I don't think the government is the solution. Would be interesting to see.
<2022-09-27T19:59:21.000Z> ThePhilosopher: They the "Private company can do what they want" thing goes out the window.
<2022-09-27T19:59:45.000Z> Charlamagne: Could easily become a Fedbook
<2022-09-27T19:59:49.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Simple: They are not allowed to kick you off unless you break the law. And you can sue them to contest it.
<2022-09-27T19:59:55.000Z> Charlamagne: some china situation
<2022-09-27T20:00:01.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Sure, that could for sure happen.
<2022-09-27T20:00:16.000Z> ThePhilosopher: But the alternative is private companies just kicking you out because they want to.
<2022-09-27T20:00:53.000Z> Charlamagne: For example, is posting regular porn on Fedbook protected by free speech?
<2022-09-27T20:01:00.000Z> ThePhilosopher: yes
<2022-09-27T20:01:10.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I think payment processing is the same problem.
<2022-09-27T20:01:37.000Z> Charlamagne: Ideally it's a platform for 13+, I don't think kids should be watching porn, let alone be using major social media
<2022-09-27T20:01:38.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Josh would be a multi millionaire now if he was unhindered. 
<2022-09-27T20:02:13.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I don`t think you should be on the full Internet at 13.
<2022-09-27T20:02:29.000Z> Charlamagne: We all were unfortunately
<2022-09-27T20:02:36.000Z> ThePhilosopher: yes
<2022-09-27T20:03:22.000Z> Charlamagne: Should fedposting be protected by 1st Amendment? 
<2022-09-27T20:03:31.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I believe it is.
<2022-09-27T20:04:08.000Z> ThePhilosopher: But imagine this: There is a government service that runs everything you need to make a website. And they will only remove you for breaking the law.
<2022-09-27T20:04:23.000Z> Charlamagne: It's hard to implement
<2022-09-27T20:04:26.000Z> ThePhilosopher: It existing would make it more difficult to deplatform privately.
<2022-09-27T20:04:39.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I would be very easy to implement. 
<2022-09-27T20:04:50.000Z> ThePhilosopher: It could also be a profitable government program.
<2022-09-27T20:04:57.000Z> Charlamagne: I could go to anybody's aunt and say I HAVE PLANTED SEVERAL BOMBS IN YOUR BUILDING
<2022-09-27T20:05:09.000Z> ThePhilosopher: That would not be legal speech. 
<2022-09-27T20:05:21.000Z> Charlamagne: That's what I meant by fedposting
<2022-09-27T20:05:23.000Z> ThePhilosopher: But then there is section 230 protections.
<2022-09-27T20:05:42.000Z> Charlamagne: Govt doesn't even need section 230
<2022-09-27T20:06:00.000Z> ThePhilosopher: They do if they are running a  hosting service.
<2022-09-27T20:07:22.000Z> Charlamagne: The first amendment is an unappreciated gift
<2022-09-27T20:07:48.000Z> ThePhilosopher: We are to far away from a true attack on freedom to see it`s value.
<2022-09-27T20:08:03.000Z> Charlamagne: change of subject, you're good with macroeconomics?
<2022-09-27T20:08:04.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Things are going to get a lot worse before they get better.
<2022-09-27T20:08:14.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I have a decent grasp of macro.
<2022-09-27T20:10:30.000Z> Charlamagne: How rekt are we?
<2022-09-27T20:10:50.000Z> ThePhilosopher: That depends on what happens next.
<2022-09-27T20:11:00.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Wheat wise I suspect we are in trouble. 
<2022-09-27T20:11:22.000Z> ThePhilosopher: The energy prices should normalize if the war ends.
<2022-09-27T20:12:01.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Inflation is a bigger problem in the short term.
<2022-09-27T20:12:16.000Z> ThePhilosopher: There are a lot of things that are gonna get worse.
<2022-09-27T20:12:29.000Z> ThePhilosopher: There is a reason people should own assets.
<2022-09-27T20:13:46.000Z> ThePhilosopher: A lot of shit people blame on inflation is in reality just supply chain issues. This is the short coming from measuring inflation via price change. It is not a perfect measurement. 
<2022-09-27T20:16:06.000Z> ThePhilosopher: The reality is that inflation is just an estimate and we have no idea what true inflation is.
<2022-09-27T20:22:59.000Z> ThePhilosopher: If you are a wagie and don`t own anything of value I would start saving aggressively and look into buying stocks or real estate. 
<2022-09-27T20:36:09.000Z> Charlamagne: I wrote a hole copypasta and accidentally deleted it
<2022-09-27T20:36:35.000Z> ThePhilosopher: hahaha
<2022-09-27T20:37:22.000Z> Charlamagne: are real estate ETFs worth it?
<2022-09-27T20:37:38.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Hard to say, would vary from case to case.
<2022-09-27T20:37:46.000Z> ThePhilosopher: There are no easy answers to investing.
<2022-09-27T20:38:08.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Buying and holding index is not the best solution. But it is easy and will hopefully get people there.
<2022-09-27T20:38:20.000Z> Charlamagne: Is gold a meme? I was looking at the prices today, lowest on the 2 year, fairly high on the 5 year
<2022-09-27T20:38:27.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Everyone thinks they are Warren Buffet.
<2022-09-27T20:38:34.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Gold is a meme.
<2022-09-27T20:39:27.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Best advise I can give is to not get advice on the Internet. 
<2022-09-27T20:39:58.000Z> Charlamagne: I'm better than Warren Buffet, I tripled my money on cryptocurrency in a year and then lost 75% of it the next year
<2022-09-27T20:44:00.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yea, that is the problem with speculation. You are just gambling. And the funniest part is that the price going up is bad for the crypto use case.
<2022-09-27T20:44:23.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Money needs to maintain a stable value.
<2022-09-27T20:44:32.000Z> Charlamagne: I agree
<2022-09-27T20:45:23.000Z> ThePhilosopher: So buying it because you hope it will become money. Means you are betting it will remain stable in value. 
<2022-09-27T20:46:32.000Z> ThePhilosopher: So buying crypto because you think it is going to the moon. Justifying your investment with it supposedly being money makes no sense.
<2022-09-27T20:49:53.000Z> Charlamagne: I agree
<2022-09-28T15:06:01.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Do we know the identity of the dropkiwifarms account?
<2022-09-28T17:12:56.000Z> Charlamagne: Yeah Sinseer
<2022-09-28T17:13:46.000Z> Charlamagne: archive.ph/n3Tjt
<2022-09-28T17:24:27.000Z> ThePhilosopher: From what I read it is not confirmed.
<2022-09-28T17:24:33.000Z> ThePhilosopher: No propper dox?
<2022-09-28T17:28:02.000Z> Charlamagne: the thread was made before anyone even knew who keffals was. 
<2022-09-28T17:29:09.000Z> Charlamagne: It's obvious it's him, he spergs about the campaign on his main account constantly, also starts and stops tweeting at around the same time
<2022-09-28T17:29:30.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I see, this is going to get funny.
<2022-09-28T17:29:51.000Z> Charlamagne: don't go on his website he logs IPs and publishes them
<2022-09-28T17:30:12.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yea, VPN equiped.
<2022-09-28T17:30:24.000Z> ThePhilosopher: But staying away.
<2022-09-28T17:30:30.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Got VPN
<2022-09-28T17:31:58.000Z> Charlamagne: The one guy I don't know the name of is the AntiKFaction guy
<2022-09-28T17:32:25.000Z> Charlamagne: Also a crybully schizo with too much free time
<2022-09-28T17:32:27.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Probably one of the insiders.
<2022-09-28T17:33:33.000Z> Charlamagne: nah he's not smart
<2022-09-28T17:33:40.000Z> Charlamagne: they're fronts
<2022-09-28T17:34:22.000Z> Charlamagne: antikfaction, dropkiwifarms and that third guy that larps as a hacker Operation Syndicate whatever
<2022-09-28T17:34:34.000Z> Charlamagne: literally useless social media addicts
<2022-09-28T17:34:42.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yea, seems like it.
<2022-09-28T17:34:51.000Z> ThePhilosopher: They are sure having a funny fit today.
<2022-09-28T17:36:33.000Z> Charlamagne: i'm not following, i find them all worthless
<2022-09-28T17:37:16.000Z> Charlamagne: I was thinking of calling the Wayback machine guys and try to get an understanding why they took down the archives
<2022-09-28T17:37:28.000Z> Charlamagne: god bless archive.ph
<2022-09-28T17:37:30.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Go for it.
<2022-09-28T17:37:39.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yea if wayback wasthe only one we would be fucked now.
<2022-09-28T17:40:24.000Z> Charlamagne: Owner seems like a lib. No wonder https://i.poastcdn.org/8fdb30cdfdeaeb93759f9e6bed0c5523e34c0f7828166289c8078e8347ae93bb.jpg
<2022-09-28T17:40:43.000Z> ThePhilosopher: They are tech people, they are all libs.
<2022-09-28T19:16:37.000Z> ThePhilosopher: poa.st/objects/020224fd-9112-48d0-a3d1-82015a70165b
<2022-10-01T16:54:41.000Z> ThePhilosopher: You know any good places on Matrix?
<2022-10-01T16:55:53.000Z> Charlamagne: good for what?
<2022-10-01T16:56:27.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Just checking it out. Never used Matrix
<2022-10-01T16:56:34.000Z> ThePhilosopher: And I don`t know how to find poast.
<2022-10-01T16:56:48.000Z> Charlamagne: i use the main nameserver for DMs and groupchats. The poa.st nameserver is good too
<2022-10-01T16:56:48.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I am a boomer and the Internet scares me. 
<2022-10-01T16:57:05.000Z> ThePhilosopher: link to the poa.st server?
<2022-10-01T16:57:09.000Z> Charlamagne: it's simple
<2022-10-01T16:57:15.000Z> Charlamagne: make a new account
<2022-10-01T16:57:18.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I did
<2022-10-01T16:57:37.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I am at the find people stage
<2022-10-01T16:58:09.000Z> Charlamagne: while registering did you set it to default matrix server or poast server?
<2022-10-01T16:58:33.000Z> ThePhilosopher: poast server
<2022-10-01T16:59:55.000Z> Charlamagne: if you're on Element click the plus sign and "join public rooms"
<2022-10-01T17:00:09.000Z> Charlamagne: idk if you're on any other platform
<2022-10-01T17:00:58.000Z> ThePhilosopher: great!
<2022-10-01T17:01:02.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I see it now!
<2022-10-01T17:03:11.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Time to sneed! Enjoy having the farms back?
<2022-10-01T17:04:15.000Z> Charlamagne: feels good but i haven't had time to browse
<2022-10-01T17:04:38.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Same here, but good to be back.
<2022-10-01T17:13:34.000Z> Charlamagne: remember to archive your favorite threads using archive.ph, it's automatic, doesn't require an account and it takes around 2 clicks
<2022-10-01T17:13:56.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I will!
<2022-10-01T17:14:07.000Z> ThePhilosopher: We should have archived the entire farms on there.
<2022-10-01T17:19:27.000Z> Charlamagne: i wonder how that can be achieved without taking an unholy amount of time
<2022-10-01T17:20:08.000Z> Charlamagne: for now i am only archiving effortposts that will come in handy like the Alfred Kinsey thread and the Urbanism thread
<2022-10-01T17:27:30.000Z> ThePhilosopher: A thing that would be AMAZING for KF would be a bot that auto archives tweets, youtube videos and streams for certain people.
<2022-10-01T17:28:00.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Like a bot that posts and archives every Keffals Tweet when they happen in the thread.
<2022-10-01T17:28:43.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I know that could be built relatively easily. 
<2022-10-01T17:29:02.000Z> Charlamagne: I think a bot should archive every keffals tweet on a constantly updating database, most of them are dumb and don't need to be posted on KF
<2022-10-01T17:31:11.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Sure, but it could do a daily post with them.
<2022-10-01T17:31:26.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Just so they are in the thread.
<2022-10-01T17:32:31.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Or a interval that makes sense.
<2022-10-01T17:32:45.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Also make it so anyone can pull anything they wanna talk about whenever.
<2022-10-01T20:44:53.000Z> Charlamagne: That's my post you posted lmao
<2022-10-01T20:45:05.000Z> ThePhilosopher: hahaha!
<2022-10-01T20:45:15.000Z> ThePhilosopher: You are the debt collector?
<2022-10-01T20:45:29.000Z> Charlamagne: Yeah
<2022-10-01T20:45:34.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Cool!
<2022-10-01T20:46:17.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Nigga I will follow you!
<2022-10-01T20:47:06.000Z> ThePhilosopher: And naturally Kiwi bros don`t tell non Kiwi bros about usernames. ;) 
<2022-10-01T20:48:27.000Z> Charlamagne: I don't mind it being out, it was linked to my poa.st profile the first few days but then I realized I don't want people trying to datamine posts I've made on other websites.
<2022-10-01T20:48:47.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yea, I only have the same username here and on Twitter.
<2022-10-01T20:48:53.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I have a new one for every social media.
<2022-10-01T20:54:13.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Now I will give you gold prize when I see you posts on KF. This way we can all have higher social credit scores!
<2022-10-01T20:56:03.000Z> Charlamagne: Thank you brother I appreciate it
<2022-10-01T20:56:17.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Do you have the tools to easily archive the Keffals stream? I have a feeling this one is gonna be a shit show.
<2022-10-01T20:56:26.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I need to go to bed before it will be over.
<2022-10-01T20:57:34.000Z> Charlamagne: I do not, screen recordings take lots of memory and I'm not willing to ruin a hard drive over some attention seeking loser
<2022-10-01T20:57:45.000Z> ThePhilosopher: hahaha
<2022-10-01T20:59:18.000Z> Charlamagne: I won't watch the stream, I'm waiting for the VOD of Destiny's stream, I'm interested in downloading it and putting it up on streamble or catbox so it's massreport proof
<2022-10-01T20:59:48.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Agreed, I also think having Keffals response would be good. 
<2022-10-01T21:00:06.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I think Keffals is on the ropes with this and is liable to make a mistake.
<2022-10-01T21:00:15.000Z> Charlamagne: did destiny end the stream properly or did it end abruptly? I was halfway through, refreshed, saw the stream was over and lasted 4.5 hours and then it got taken down
<2022-10-01T21:00:25.000Z> ThePhilosopher: He ended it properly.
<2022-10-01T21:00:32.000Z> Charlamagne: I think Keffals can get away with it
<2022-10-01T21:00:46.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yea, we will see.
<2022-10-01T21:00:56.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Destiny is a lot bigger than Keffals.
<2022-10-01T21:01:03.000Z> Charlamagne: Keffals has Vaush's backing still
<2022-10-01T21:01:04.000Z> ThePhilosopher: He is a mainstream Internet celery. 
<2022-10-01T21:01:21.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Vaush is gonna have a rough time defending this shit in debates though.
<2022-10-01T21:01:33.000Z> Charlamagne: Also Keffals fans are good at gaslighting people whenever they criticize Keffals
<2022-10-01T21:01:42.000Z> ThePhilosopher: This is true.
<2022-10-01T21:01:53.000Z> Charlamagne: "oh really? Keffals did something wrong? Where'd you get that from? Kiwifarms?????"
<2022-10-01T21:01:56.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Imagine if the world was a more honest place. 
<2022-10-01T21:02:20.000Z> Charlamagne: Grifters gonna grift
<2022-10-01T21:02:33.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yea, they just discount everything that is on Kiwi Farms. So I will post that Keffals is a woman on the farms. That way they have to claim it is not true.
<2022-10-01T21:02:45.000Z> Charlamagne: lmaoo
<2022-10-01T21:03:15.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Check mate Keffals stans!
<2022-10-01T21:06:49.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Keffals has two editors and a writer for his YT channel?!
<2022-10-01T21:07:05.000Z> ThePhilosopher: And that channel is not making money for sure.
<2022-10-01T21:21:19.000Z> Charlamagne: What I don't like about the Keffals thread is how fast it goes, good stuff gets buried, god bless the highlight feature
<2022-10-01T21:21:36.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yes!
<2022-10-01T21:21:44.000Z> ThePhilosopher: It will be 3000 pages long. 
<2022-10-01T21:21:58.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I think it may be contending to be the biggest thread on the forum
<2022-10-01T21:23:22.000Z> Charlamagne: keffals doesnt deserve it
<2022-10-01T21:23:35.000Z> Charlamagne: such an uninteresting retard
<2022-10-01T21:23:50.000Z> ThePhilosopher: To be fair, he did spearhead a movement that took the site offline for like 2 weeks.
<2022-10-01T21:23:53.000Z> Charlamagne: ralph is funnier
<2022-10-01T21:24:01.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Ralph is a lot funnier.
<2022-10-01T21:24:18.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Keffals is to quick to block trolls.
<2022-10-01T21:24:32.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I think people will start fucking with him soon.
<2022-10-01T21:24:50.000Z> ThePhilosopher: And then we will see some glorious freakouts. And those Keffals is great at.
<2022-10-01T21:28:52.000Z> Charlamagne: Keffals doesn't do freakouts he just speaks in a monotone voice and tweets out lies
<2022-10-01T21:29:06.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Have you not seen the freakouts?!
<2022-10-01T21:29:14.000Z> Charlamagne: there's freakouts?
<2022-10-01T21:29:26.000Z> ThePhilosopher: There are FANTASTIC freakouts.
<2022-10-01T21:29:30.000Z> Charlamagne: send
<2022-10-01T21:30:09.000Z> ThePhilosopher: youtube.com/watch?v=NZiAAnMHcps&t=295s
<2022-10-01T21:30:11.000Z> ThePhilosopher: 10:00
<2022-10-01T21:30:48.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Keffals is a rage pig in the right situation.
<2022-10-01T21:31:13.000Z> ThePhilosopher: This is why I think the stream today can bring some high quality fair trade milk!
<2022-10-01T21:31:19.000Z> ThePhilosopher: twitch.tv/keffals
<2022-10-01T21:41:50.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Fucking nigger fishies!
<2022-10-01T21:48:45.000Z> Charlamagne: HOLY SHIT
<2022-10-01T21:48:49.000Z> Charlamagne: THE STARDUST BIT
<2022-10-01T21:48:50.000Z> Charlamagne: AHAHHAHAH
<2022-10-01T21:48:54.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I told you!
<2022-10-01T21:48:57.000Z> Charlamagne: SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU STUPID BITCH
<2022-10-01T21:49:16.000Z> ThePhilosopher: There is milk here. If trolls find a way to get to him. 
<2022-10-01T21:49:25.000Z> Charlamagne: But it
<2022-10-01T21:49:25.000Z> ThePhilosopher: He has a hair trigger temper.
<2022-10-01T21:49:34.000Z> Charlamagne: but everything else is so performative
<2022-10-01T21:50:04.000Z> Charlamagne: yeah no shit the social recluse retard trouble keeping his cool
<2022-10-01T21:50:16.000Z> Charlamagne: has*
<2022-10-01T21:50:35.000Z> ThePhilosopher: hahaha
<2022-10-01T21:50:43.000Z> ThePhilosopher: There is a second freakout like that.
<2022-10-01T21:50:55.000Z> ThePhilosopher: They remind me a lot like Ralph.
<2022-10-01T21:52:17.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I don`t remember who Lucas freaked out on. But it is covered in the stream.
<2022-10-01T21:55:57.000Z> Charlamagne: ok so i am having trouble making a poast.tv account, catbox has a 200mb limit, streamable has a limit, where do I go? Bitchute?
<2022-10-01T21:56:00.000Z> Charlamagne: Rumble?
<2022-10-01T21:56:13.000Z> ThePhilosopher: What do you wanna do?
<2022-10-01T21:56:46.000Z> Charlamagne: I want to archive the destiny stream
<2022-10-01T21:56:56.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Rumble is probably the most viable. 
<2022-10-01T21:57:01.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Odysee is also great
<2022-10-01T21:57:12.000Z> Charlamagne: Will go with odysee
<2022-10-01T21:57:53.000Z> Charlamagne: Since I know the admins aren't faggots and they won't fall for mass reports or accusations of misgendering  and deadnaming
<2022-10-01T21:58:06.000Z> ThePhilosopher: yea
<2022-10-01T21:59:21.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I hate the mass reporting. And the thing is that it would be so easy to do it back. I legit think the reason the left is dominant on social media is because the encourage mass reports. 
<2022-10-01T21:59:49.000Z> ThePhilosopher: However often they succeed  they progress the cause.
<2022-10-01T22:00:49.000Z> Charlamagne: BRO WHAT THE FUCK https://i.poastcdn.org/ac3f5d639527bddd0749e600f868562b708c425b241fa07be74a20d29deaf5df.png
<2022-10-01T22:00:55.000Z> Charlamagne: WHY DO THEY HATE ME
<2022-10-01T22:01:02.000Z> ThePhilosopher: hahahaha
<2022-10-01T22:01:35.000Z> ThePhilosopher: We forget that the Internet is very expensive. We have been spoiled for a long time with ad founded social media.
<2022-10-01T22:01:51.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I 100% think the Internet would be a lot better if we paid for using it.
<2022-10-01T22:02:19.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Advertisers are a cancer on the net. 
<2022-10-01T22:03:06.000Z> ThePhilosopher: The Kiwi Farms is a website funded 100% by donations from the users. It is not even mandatory to spend money to use the site. 
<2022-10-01T22:03:31.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I think that model could legit work. We have streamers who make their whole living on donations.
<2022-10-01T22:03:58.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Or we could have sites that charge a very reasonable fee to use it.
<2022-10-01T22:05:04.000Z> ThePhilosopher: In 2019 Facebook made 30$ per user a year. That means that if you paid them 2,5$a month you could use facebook at the same rate you are now.
<2022-10-01T22:05:56.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Imagine the profit of charging users 5-6$ a month for premium. They make more money on those than free users.
<2022-10-01T22:07:08.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I would happily pay 50$a month to use all the websites I use. If that means no more ads, no more bullshit censorship, etc.  
<2022-10-01T22:13:52.000Z> Charlamagne: I agree, wikipedia was supported by donations a few years ago, don't know know since it's compromised by govts and political groups
<2022-10-01T22:14:10.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yea, Wikipedia is not good anymore.
<2022-10-01T22:14:16.000Z> ThePhilosopher: And it is a huge loss.
<2022-10-01T22:14:43.000Z> Charlamagne: eh, encyclopedia dramatica is better
<2022-10-01T22:14:53.000Z> ThePhilosopher: hahahaha
<2022-10-01T22:14:59.000Z> ThePhilosopher: 100% unbiased.
<2022-10-01T22:22:30.000Z> Charlamagne: I'm killing myself, bitchute has a 2gb file limit and the stream is 3gb, all compression sites have a 2gb limit
<2022-10-01T22:22:43.000Z> Charlamagne: i'll work on this tomorrow probably
<2022-10-01T22:22:59.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yea, the stream is already archived on Mega.
<2022-10-01T22:23:08.000Z> ThePhilosopher: And will be on YouTube tomorrow.
<2022-10-01T22:23:23.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Reach out to Mati and ask what you need to do.
<2022-10-01T22:23:31.000Z> Charlamagne: mega's subject to mass reports but it mainly works when it comes to DMCA piracy and illegal material
<2022-10-01T22:24:04.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yea, I think reach out to MATI. He uploands all of it to Odysee.
<2022-10-01T22:24:15.000Z> ThePhilosopher: So he knows the secret.
<2022-10-02T15:18:07.000Z> ThePhilosopher: That hole in the wall and jew picture is fucking uncanny.
<2022-10-02T15:18:17.000Z> ThePhilosopher: The hole even has the hat!
<2022-10-02T15:29:54.000Z> Charlamagne: Yeah I was very angry
<2022-10-02T15:30:03.000Z> ThePhilosopher: So the hole is real?
<2022-10-02T15:30:06.000Z> ThePhilosopher: What happened?
<2022-10-02T15:30:58.000Z> Charlamagne: Yeah the hole is real I made it using Stable Diffusion and the prompt "Cracks in drywall" with the jew image attached
<2022-10-02T15:31:46.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I think it is a sign that jew is the true religion!
<2022-10-02T15:33:34.000Z> ThePhilosopher: It looks very weird. Like an optical illusion. 
<2022-10-02T15:36:39.000Z> Charlamagne: Out of dozens of attempts that was the best result I could get
<2022-10-02T15:36:53.000Z> Charlamagne: I wonder how other people get more abstract results, they look great
<2022-10-02T15:36:58.000Z> ThePhilosopher: So you did not punch the wall in anger?
<2022-10-02T15:37:10.000Z> Charlamagne: Nicocado's asshole https://i.poastcdn.org/002585414829b2d29ccf5cd347d445c6faddb1bbc018e41cad81d284c24f455d.png
<2022-10-02T15:37:17.000Z> ThePhilosopher: hahaha
<2022-10-02T15:37:25.000Z> Charlamagne: I didn't punch the wall it's obvious
<2022-10-02T15:37:33.000Z> Charlamagne attached file https://i.poastcdn.org/f4240e1830a7916fd934af8f9ecd9a28d03f5d98522336b166417004f35ed01c.png
<2022-10-02T15:37:43.000Z> Charlamagne attached file https://i.poastcdn.org/9e8ed6f74b04153ff9bd2e83744e8cfd4355d097b3987fa04825934691c82d64.png
<2022-10-02T15:38:01.000Z> Charlamagne: Jew https://i.poastcdn.org/3eeb665f240d014541073e1ad4879abb5b519ffd0525d9b29b9a899e2db714ef.png
<2022-10-02T15:38:03.000Z> ThePhilosopher: That is cool, you paint?
<2022-10-02T15:38:25.000Z> Charlamagne attached file https://i.poastcdn.org/289d300e8cd08152b5630cc73407ae972c8fac5c6f7765526ff55a3221776061.jpg
<2022-10-02T15:38:38.000Z> Charlamagne: I don't these are all AI generated by other people
<2022-10-02T15:38:48.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I see, I found the site now.
<2022-10-02T15:38:59.000Z> Charlamagne: Look at how genius this is https://i.poastcdn.org/6c7b349def1e008e2e0e302f02ab915dd8fd66532350b1505f5c35bce9072ee3.png
<2022-10-02T15:39:10.000Z> ThePhilosopher: They are beautiful! 
<2022-10-02T15:39:45.000Z> Charlamagne: Here's the client I used beta.dreamstudio.ai/
<2022-10-02T15:40:33.000Z> ThePhilosopher: How did you make the wall picture?
<2022-10-02T15:40:49.000Z> Charlamagne: I suspect the reason people get better results is they run a local client on linux and they can work without the censors, even regular words are censored here, like dirt, milk, soil, clothes, laundry
<2022-10-02T15:41:01.000Z> Charlamagne: I made it using the dreamstudio site I sent
<2022-10-02T15:41:23.000Z> Charlamagne: I fed it this image https://i.poastcdn.org/7fea588dac37d07152689c55a97635fa0d7913a9cc583fb38e53e9b11ef47857.jpg
<2022-10-02T15:41:34.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Holy shit, so I did catch it!
<2022-10-02T15:44:11.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I am conflicted, I need to pick up an art.
<2022-10-02T15:44:24.000Z> ThePhilosopher: And I can`t decide between music or drawing.
<2022-10-02T15:54:11.000Z> ThePhilosopher attached file https://i.poastcdn.org/3b452d49c79704e82defcdfc524b5a155b1bcba3049355cdac4a35cac6b86d88.png
<2022-10-02T15:54:18.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I love it!
<2022-10-02T16:12:39.000Z> Charlamagne: do you have any background in music or drawing?
<2022-10-02T16:13:00.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Not really, I just feel I need a practice in my life.
<2022-10-02T16:13:15.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Studies has taken up to much of it. And all the rest of my time goes to shit posting.
<2022-10-02T16:13:32.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I work out and stuff. but I need something with a bit more feeling to it.
<2022-10-02T16:13:44.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I was thinking piano, as that can also be a social thing.
<2022-10-02T16:23:27.000Z> Charlamagne: Piano's good if you have the discipline to also practice at home every day
<2022-10-02T16:23:37.000Z> Charlamagne: It's a good foundation
<2022-10-02T16:23:40.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yea, seems like a bit of work.
<2022-10-02T16:23:49.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I have a keyboard. So I have access.
<2022-10-02T16:25:51.000Z> Charlamagne: Look if there's tutors or a music class nearby
<2022-10-02T16:26:32.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yea, I have all the tools I need. I just am having a hard time dedicating myself to one.
<2022-10-02T16:27:15.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I also need to work on my disipline. Probably time for a longer Internet break.
<2022-10-02T16:27:40.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Live in the real world for a bit.
<2022-10-02T16:44:42.000Z> Charlamagne: would help
<2022-10-02T16:45:04.000Z> Charlamagne: im taking one in the next few weeks
<2022-10-02T16:50:56.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yes, maybe I will leave and not come back until the end of the semester.
<2022-10-02T16:51:51.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I think leaving all of social media for 2 months would be great. Maybe pick 3-4 things that I will watch every week.
<2022-10-02T16:51:56.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Like the MATI podcast.
<2022-10-02T17:06:18.000Z> Charlamagne: mati's good, i tune in to tim dillon podcast and adam friendland show, jesse singal's show too
<2022-10-02T17:06:25.000Z> Charlamagne: that's my rotation
<2022-10-02T17:06:36.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Jesse Singal is great.
<2022-10-02T17:06:43.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I started listening after you showed me.
<2022-10-02T17:07:18.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I am considering deleting my Twiitter.
<2022-10-02T17:07:40.000Z> Charlamagne: Yeah Twitter is a waste unless you're a public figure
<2022-10-02T17:07:50.000Z> ThePhilosopher: After looking at the DIY HRT trending tab I got a serious black pill.
<2022-10-02T17:08:06.000Z> Charlamagne: it trended?
<2022-10-02T17:08:10.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I have not had a real conversation on there.
<2022-10-02T17:08:20.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yea, it trended. Then got manually removed.
<2022-10-02T17:08:25.000Z> Charlamagne: Lmao
<2022-10-02T17:08:41.000Z> Charlamagne: Twitter's the tranny domain, don't fret, they control the conversation
<2022-10-02T17:08:47.000Z> ThePhilosopher: But 99% was like: Giving HRT to kids is actually saving lives.
<2022-10-02T17:08:49.000Z> Charlamagne: Look at the harassment Jesse gets every week openly
<2022-10-02T17:09:33.000Z> Charlamagne: The thing that gave me hope is the regular developers at ycombinator that were horrified by the troon saga
<2022-10-02T17:09:33.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yea, it is just so sad that they get to run social media.
<2022-10-02T17:09:52.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I think the narrative is slowly shifting.
<2022-10-02T17:10:06.000Z> ThePhilosopher: But it is not going to lead to a bigger conversation about what is really important. 
<2022-10-02T17:10:24.000Z> ThePhilosopher: There are deep societal problems here.
<2022-10-02T17:10:38.000Z> Charlamagne: Then the forum got raided by troons and they tried to harass everyone into supporting them but man normies were giving great arguements, it's not stuff you hear from conservative shills.
<2022-10-02T17:10:40.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Things that cannot be fixed with tranny bad.
<2022-10-02T17:10:48.000Z> Charlamagne: Either way arguing on the internet is a waste of time
<2022-10-02T17:11:07.000Z> Charlamagne: Protect your friends and family
<2022-10-02T17:11:11.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yes, the other problem is that everyone is so combative. 
<2022-10-02T17:11:34.000Z> ThePhilosopher: And there are so many bots that just exist to make it look like people agree on something.
<2022-10-05T13:47:54.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I am considering formulation of the Ethan Ralph weight loss competition. We pit him against Vito. And if he loses Vito gets to fuck his kids.
<2022-10-05T14:58:11.000Z> Charlamagne: low stakes for Ralph
<2022-10-05T15:01:58.000Z> ThePhilosopher: lol
<2022-10-05T15:58:19.000Z> ThePhilosopher: You realize that if Rekieta posts the names of those 45 complaints. Then that would cover most of the for soldiers that Keffals has.
<2022-10-05T15:58:40.000Z> ThePhilosopher: They would get threads on the forum day one.
<2022-10-05T18:31:01.000Z> Charlamagne: He did post them
<2022-10-05T18:31:19.000Z> Charlamagne: There is a thread
<2022-10-05T18:31:34.000Z> Charlamagne: Not rly it's just on Nick's thread
<2022-10-05T18:32:20.000Z> Charlamagne: There was one guy that realized he fucked up after Keffals got exposed and tried to downplay that he tries to ruin Nick's life
<2022-10-05T18:32:36.000Z> ThePhilosopher: hahaha
<2022-10-05T18:32:38.000Z> Charlamagne: tried*
<2022-10-05T18:32:39.000Z> ThePhilosopher: FUCKING GREAT!
<2022-10-05T18:33:27.000Z> Charlamagne: Post in thread 'Nicholas Robert Rekieta / Rekieta Law / @NickRekieta' kiwifarms.net/threads/nicholas-robert-rekieta-rekieta-law-nickrekieta.53871/post-12994641
<2022-10-05T18:33:46.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I love the farms
<2022-10-05T18:34:35.000Z> Charlamagne: Sneedchat is bacj
<2022-10-05T18:34:37.000Z> Charlamagne: back
<2022-10-05T18:34:44.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Man, what a good day!
<2022-10-05T18:35:14.000Z> Charlamagne: Mumsnet will work with Null for DDOS mitigation
<2022-10-05T18:35:54.000Z> Charlamagne attached file https://i.poastcdn.org/2efae118d39c1a8e4643803f53cdd02277ec425d3da0a49040a919ce3d74e01c.png
<2022-10-05T18:36:28.000Z> ThePhilosopher: lol!
<2022-10-05T18:36:42.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Things are looking great, Friday stream gonna be fantastic!
<2022-10-05T18:36:52.000Z> Charlamagne: Kiwifarms is bulletproof
<2022-10-05T18:36:54.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I am happy to have Kiwi bros like you to help me pay attention!
<2022-10-05T18:38:04.000Z> Charlamagne: And soon enough every site speaking truth will be bulletproof, lolcow farms, mumsnet, gays against groomers. If Musk buys Twitter then LibsofTiktok won't get banned
<2022-10-05T18:38:10.000Z> Charlamagne: The tides are turning
<2022-10-05T18:38:32.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Tides are turning
<2022-10-05T18:39:25.000Z> Charlamagne: But never get too euphoric, people get too cocky and the pendulum will swing back harder
<2022-10-05T18:39:36.000Z> ThePhilosopher: 100%
<2022-10-05T18:39:40.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Look at Keffals
<2022-10-05T18:39:50.000Z> ThePhilosopher: poa.st/objects/b5b8720d-5ed5-4eca-b6b7-1b884f43e4eb
<2022-10-05T18:39:56.000Z> ThePhilosopher: My new intimidating message.
<2022-10-05T18:43:29.000Z> Charlamagne: The hacker known as Kiwifarm
<2022-10-05T18:43:43.000Z> ThePhilosopher: hahaha
<2022-10-05T18:44:09.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Are you true and honest?
<2022-10-05T18:44:39.000Z> Charlamagne: The True and Honest Christian Weston Chandler
<2022-10-05T18:44:48.000Z> ThePhilosopher: haha, but not on the forum?
<2022-10-05T18:45:31.000Z> Charlamagne: No I never donated, I was going to give my BAT but the donate button doesn't pop up anymore
<2022-10-05T18:45:46.000Z> Charlamagne: Null said to wait 
<2022-10-05T18:45:50.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Do not give him jew nigger money (fiat).
<2022-10-05T18:46:06.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Also if you use crypto I would use metamask.
<2022-10-05T18:46:13.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Or you will get banned.
<2022-10-05T18:46:14.000Z> Charlamagne: I have metamask
<2022-10-05T18:46:58.000Z> Charlamagne: BAT's an ERC20 token right?
<2022-10-05T18:47:04.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I think so.
<2022-10-05T18:47:06.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I used eth
<2022-10-05T18:48:05.000Z> Charlamagne: I think josh should put up a donation goal bar like wikipedia used to do, catbox does it too
<2022-10-05T18:48:24.000Z> ThePhilosopher: He does not wanna do that as long as the farms covers his living costs.
<2022-10-05T18:48:36.000Z> ThePhilosopher: He could easily make more money.
<2022-10-05T18:49:00.000Z> Charlamagne: very few people donate through crypto apparently, very sad since Monero will eventually become a necessity the way internet/financial censorship is going
<2022-10-05T18:49:17.000Z> Charlamagne: God bless Monero
<2022-10-05T18:50:25.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Don`t trust crypto wholesale.
<2022-10-05T18:50:39.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Remember that the accounting of all your stuff is there forever.
<2022-10-05T18:51:32.000Z> Charlamagne: I know I just like monero because it's less traceable
<2022-10-05T18:52:04.000Z> Charlamagne: Can't tell who sent to who unless you try to track the amount, the address is encrypted unlike bitcoin
<2022-10-05T18:54:56.000Z> ThePhilosopher: That could be or become illegal through money laundering law.
<2022-10-05T18:55:35.000Z> Charlamagne: idc they should've never have shut down tornado cash
<2022-10-05T18:56:30.000Z> Charlamagne: You can just use monero even if it's banned on most exchanges, there will always be a weirdo guy in your city who buys it for irl cash
<2022-10-05T18:56:45.000Z> Charlamagne: i wonder what he'll use it for...
<2022-10-05T18:57:20.000Z> Charlamagne: US banned Swaps on Ethereum? Just use a vpn nigga lmao
<2022-10-05T18:58:02.000Z> Charlamagne: Metamask is cucked they banned Venezuelans and Irans due to sanctions for a short while, Wallets shouldn't work that way
<2022-10-05T18:58:46.000Z> Charlamagne: I'm being obtuse, one of the third parties they work with blocked those countries so Metamask did automatically, still, very bad
<2022-10-05T19:00:06.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I am happy the USA is doing the government payment processor. At least then you have recourse against discrimination. 
<2022-10-05T19:01:10.000Z> Charlamagne: The one thing I will fight till my dying breath is CBDCs
<2022-10-05T19:01:52.000Z> Charlamagne: That shit sucks and will be used to opress dissent
<2022-10-05T19:02:03.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yes
<2022-10-05T20:31:33.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Managed to get Vito to tell me more or less what he will make this year.
<2022-10-05T22:06:49.000Z> Charlamagne: Vito's active on kf and everyone calls him a pedo everytime he posts
<2022-10-06T03:13:41.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I know, but that is not good milking. You are not gonna get much out of him that way.
<2022-10-06T10:45:03.000Z> Charlamagne: rekieta got banned on youtube
<2022-10-06T10:45:09.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I saw
<2022-10-06T10:45:15.000Z> ThePhilosopher: We have the nigger list though.
<2022-10-06T10:47:26.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Those 44 people are the same 44 people who flag all videos, etc.
<2022-10-06T10:47:45.000Z> ThePhilosopher: They are the very tip of their activist spear.
<2022-10-06T10:48:04.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Nick will be reinstated. 
<2022-10-06T10:48:06.000Z> Charlamagne: That's just one state, I don't think the ringleader is in there
<2022-10-06T10:48:30.000Z> Charlamagne: They plan on doing the same at another state
<2022-10-06T10:48:39.000Z> ThePhilosopher: No, but what happens to them next will make the rest think twice.
<2022-10-06T10:49:12.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I am naturally not planning anything. But I know that there are some fuckers on KF that are pissed.
<2022-10-06T10:49:43.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I suspect that this list will spawn a few full on threads.
<2022-10-06T10:51:29.000Z> ThePhilosopher: You know some autist is working on a full dox for all of them.
<2022-10-06T10:51:36.000Z> Charlamagne: Wishful thinking, that faggot Duncan Macleod who got destroyed in a debate with Nick has been reporting him ever since and he only got a thread 3 days ago
<2022-10-06T10:51:55.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yes, but this is connected to Keffals.
<2022-10-06T10:52:08.000Z> ThePhilosopher: That is a different level of attention.
<2022-10-06T10:52:39.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Some of them are already doxed in the Rekieta thread.
<2022-10-06T10:53:30.000Z> Charlamagne: The Duncan debate was connected to Keffals
<2022-10-06T10:54:00.000Z> ThePhilosopher: tangentially, these are people who reported him on Keffals instruction. 
<2022-10-06T10:54:34.000Z> ThePhilosopher: People may not care, and I don`t think the KF is the worst that is gonna come from this.
<2022-10-06T10:54:48.000Z> ThePhilosopher: But Keffals has pissed people on the deeper net off it seems.
<2022-10-06T11:01:08.000Z> ThePhilosopher: It really is to bad there there are no damages to prove. You know Nick would sue.
<2022-10-06T11:10:42.000Z> Charlamagne: big dick nick won't sue them he'll kill them
<2022-10-06T11:10:49.000Z> ThePhilosopher: hahaha
<2022-10-06T11:10:58.000Z> ThePhilosopher: We could make a Kiwi Farms game.
<2022-10-06T11:11:43.000Z> ThePhilosopher: The list of 45 people in an editable OP. The first commenter to provide a full dox: addressPhone numbere-mail accountsetc
<2022-10-06T11:12:01.000Z> ThePhilosopher: gets a semper fidalis reaction.g 
<2022-10-06T11:12:21.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Then we check them off with info in the thread.
<2022-10-06T11:12:42.000Z> ThePhilosopher: No cheaty on locals! 
<2022-10-06T11:14:01.000Z> Charlamagne: I don't care enough. Somebody said Doxbin's getting involved
<2022-10-06T11:14:12.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Yea, I think they will.
<2022-10-06T11:14:23.000Z> ThePhilosopher: He is basically posting all of it in the next few hours.
<2022-10-06T11:15:01.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Doxbin is basically a phone book. Why are people so scared of it?
<2022-10-06T11:15:05.000Z> Charlamagne: Expect half of these people swatted in the next half month. I oppose swatting for anyone, even Keffals
<2022-10-06T11:15:14.000Z> ThePhilosopher: agreed
<2022-10-06T11:15:56.000Z> Charlamagne: Doxbin isn't like a phonebook? They hack people often, most of the famous users are members of big hacker collectives
<2022-10-06T11:16:15.000Z> Charlamagne: Whatever information you receive via hack is illegal
<2022-10-06T11:16:25.000Z> Charlamagne: If you publish it i mean
<2022-10-06T11:16:27.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I see, that is somewhat different.
<2022-10-06T11:16:36.000Z> ThePhilosopher: So doxbin will fuck with people.
<2022-10-06T11:17:52.000Z> Charlamagne: That's why Destiny didn't name Doxbin in the manifesto
<2022-10-06T11:18:40.000Z> Charlamagne: It's the top resource when looking to swat ecelebs
<2022-10-06T11:19:48.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I see
<2022-10-06T11:20:57.000Z> ThePhilosopher: They are not on doxbin yet.
<2022-10-06T11:23:38.000Z> ThePhilosopher: But I assume as soon as he posts it it will be on doxbin.
<2022-10-06T11:33:35.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Holy shit, I looked up the house of one of the people who have been doxed.
<2022-10-06T11:34:01.000Z> ThePhilosopher: kiwifarms.net/threads/nicholas-robert-rekieta-rekieta-law-nickrekieta.53871/page-765
<2022-10-06T11:34:10.000Z> ThePhilosopher: That is one of the funniest houses I have seen.
<2022-10-06T11:34:59.000Z> ThePhilosopher: On the possible dox that is.
<2022-10-06T11:44:41.000Z> Charlamagne: why would anyone extend a brick house that way
<2022-10-06T11:44:48.000Z> ThePhilosopher: hahaha
<2022-10-06T11:45:00.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Who knows, they are retarded. but look at who they live next to.
<2022-10-08T16:25:58.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I made a kiwi charity thread.
<2022-10-08T16:26:12.000Z> ThePhilosopher: kiwifarms.net/threads/it-is-time-for-the-kiwi-farms-to-save-the-kiwis.130240/
<2022-10-14T15:18:23.000Z> Charlamagne: cool thread
<2022-10-14T15:18:40.000Z> Charlamagne: Didn't get much traction, the concerns are understandable
<2022-10-14T15:19:29.000Z> Charlamagne: When the forum is more stable financially consider pitching a charity donation idea to Joshua
<2022-10-14T15:19:46.000Z> Charlamagne: MATI today
<2022-10-15T00:03:17.000Z> ThePhilosopher: MATI was good today!
<2022-10-15T00:09:08.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Charity is mostly for fun.
<2022-10-15T00:09:15.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I have been buying gold and silver.
<2022-10-15T06:37:35.000Z> Charlamagne: Didn't you tell me gold is a massive meme?
<2022-10-15T06:38:23.000Z> Charlamagne: Are you going to mail Josh some silver coins?
<2022-10-15T07:08:54.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I have been on our version of craigslist. Found people selling gold coins below spot price. They were part of larger coin collections. So I plan on turning around and selling them for spot plus’s premium. I may keep some because they are pretty.
<2022-10-15T09:08:49.000Z> Charlamagne: Sick play. Good job.
<2022-10-15T11:41:25.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I look for people selling coin collections from a recent dead granpa, etc. They usually have to rely on me to tell them what it is worth. I buy at 50-70% of market value based on how long it will take to resell.
<2022-10-15T11:42:57.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Then I roll profits to buy cool shit for my own collection.
<2022-10-15T11:47:58.000Z> ThePhilosopher: I just bought 9 North Korean bills.
<2022-10-15T16:12:13.000Z> Charlamagne: I should try something like this, big elderly population here but it's sad selling collections somebody spent a life gathering
<2022-10-15T16:12:44.000Z> Charlamagne: It was sad when Chris sold his Dad's stamp collection to buy more plastic toys
<2022-10-15T16:33:08.000Z> ThePhilosopher: The key is knowing what to sell as a collection and what to split up and sell individually. People have no idea how to list things attractively. 
<2022-10-15T16:33:44.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Making your ads using the actual name of the thing you are selling as opposed to "Silver coin collection". 
<2022-10-15T16:34:22.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Because you are exploiting their bad ads essentially.  
<2022-10-15T16:36:03.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Sometimes you will get super lucky and someone will sell you gold or silver at a serious discount. Most of the time I am the one to tell them their coins are copper covered in gold plating and not worth much. 
<2022-10-15T16:36:29.000Z> ThePhilosopher: You need to get to know the value of stuff.
<2022-10-15T16:37:03.000Z> ThePhilosopher: If you don`t know what it is worth you will get fucking wrecked. You also need to leave enough margin on the deals you do to afford getting wreaked now and then. 
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<2022-10-15T16:38:53.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Got these two for 50$. They can be sold for 50$ each.
<2022-10-15T16:40:59.000Z> ThePhilosopher: ebay.ca/itm/403322527175
<2022-10-15T16:41:03.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Here is a different ad.
<2022-10-15T18:58:06.000Z> ThePhilosopher: FYI I will leave all social media tomorrow. Will still be on KF at sporadically. So you can dm me there. ☺️
<2022-10-15T19:36:31.000Z> Charlamagne: Pics aren't loading for me
<2022-10-15T19:36:56.000Z> Charlamagne: Gotta read up on coins. Have any guides you can recommend?
<2022-10-15T19:37:31.000Z> Charlamagne: Ok I'll DM you on KF in the next few days I've been having trouble connecting
<2022-10-15T19:57:18.000Z> ThePhilosopher: The best thing to do on coins is to pick a segment of history and start learning. Silver and gold coins are mostly used to store silver. There are some collections coins worth money.
<2022-10-15T19:58:10.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Don’t buy anything until you feel confident in its value. Your emotions is your enemy.
<2022-10-15T20:01:57.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Be aware not to pay to much for anything. Haggele everything.
<2022-10-15T20:03:40.000Z> Charlamagne: I am good at haggling I wear my charisma robe like in Oblivion and it always works
<2022-10-16T06:15:07.000Z> ThePhilosopher: Most of it is through text. Unless you wanna show up at peoples house.