<2022-11-26T20:59:12.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: So, you're a tradcath weeb?
<2022-11-26T21:01:48.000Z> AnimeTradCath: contrary to the name, I don't normally watch anime
<2022-11-26T21:02:14.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: What's the story behind the name?
<2022-11-26T21:04:07.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: And what's your stance on the state of the papacy? Do you think that Francis is a pope?
<2022-11-26T21:50:37.000Z> AnimeTradCath: It was the first thing that came to mind when I created this account
<2022-11-26T21:51:43.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Oh.
<2022-11-26T21:52:08.000Z> AnimeTradCath: While I will say that the current Pontifex Maximus is a legitimate Pope, he is an example of the immense rot that exists within the Vatican
<2022-11-26T21:53:13.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: So you think that Francis is a heretic?
<2022-11-26T22:04:20.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I would say so
<2022-11-26T22:05:18.000Z> AnimeTradCath: but I am ill-equipped to answer things regarding the implication that has been drawn
<2022-11-26T22:07:46.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Check out these quotes from Francis: http://francisquotes.com/
<2022-11-26T22:08:23.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: It's a side-by-side comparison of what Francis says vs the pre-Vatican II Church teaching.
<2022-11-26T22:11:40.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I'm well aware of Pope Francis's, at best heterodox stance on many issues
<2022-11-26T22:12:02.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Also, if you go to point 6 of Pope Paul IV's papal bull, Cum ex Apostlatus Officio, you can see that a heretic can't be a pope.
<2022-11-26T22:12:06.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: http://www.dailycatholic.org/cumexapo.htm
<2022-11-26T22:20:09.000Z> AnimeTradCath: okay
<2022-11-26T22:20:20.000Z> AnimeTradCath: What kind of Catholic are you?
<2022-11-26T22:23:12.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: The kind that rejects Vatican II and everything that is based upon it, and that rejects the idea that the series of heretics claiming to be popes since the death of Pope Pius XII are popes.
<2022-11-26T22:23:31.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: In short, I'm a sedevacantist.
<2022-11-26T22:23:46.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I studied theology because I was an adult convert.
<2022-11-26T22:41:39.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I myself am sympathetic towards sedevacantism 
<2022-11-26T22:42:02.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Well, it's really the only logical conclusion when you think about it.
<2022-11-26T22:42:12.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I mean there's a few options:
<2022-11-26T22:42:39.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: 1. Truth can change as time goes on.
<2022-11-26T22:43:04.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: That's the novus ordo position.
<2022-11-26T22:44:02.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: 2. A guy can be the leader of a church that he's not even a member of, and we're not bound to obey him (this is the recognize and resist, aka R&R position)
<2022-11-26T22:45:20.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: 3. A guy can't be a pope if he's not even a Catholic, and if he's not Catholic then it doesn't matter if he lives in the Vatican or not because he has no more authority than your mailman.
<2022-11-26T22:58:47.000Z> AnimeTradCath: thank you for enlightening me
<2022-11-26T22:59:29.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Pretty simple stuff, right?
<2022-11-26T22:59:58.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I'm not a sedevacantist because of temperamental differences that I have with them
<2022-11-26T23:00:16.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: What do you mean?
<2022-11-26T23:01:32.000Z> AnimeTradCath: It would be better to drive out the corruption from the Church as Christ did whipping the jews from the Temple, than to break away temporarily.
<2022-11-26T23:03:14.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Well ya see, according to the sedevacantist position, the Vatican and the majority of what used to be Catholic churches as having been taken over and absent in the Catholic faith in the same sense as how churches in Turkey are now mosques.
<2022-11-26T23:10:08.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: If sedevacantists are right that the novus ordo papal claimants are heretics and therefor not popes, then whoever believes in the novus ordo papal claimants' teachings is not a Catholic.
<2022-11-26T23:11:27.000Z> AnimeTradCath: My German blood is one of the major reasons for my conversion as an adult.
<2022-11-26T23:12:25.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: And hence, if the sedevacantists are correct, they did not schism but the novus ordo and R&R people schismed.
<2022-11-26T23:13:52.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I have some German in me too, along with French, Dutch, English, Irish, Finnish, and more.
<2022-11-26T23:14:31.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I'm basically a mix of everything in Europe from east of Iberia. Northern Europe, southern Europe, east Europe, west Europe...
<2022-11-26T23:15:04.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I'm purely German
<2022-11-26T23:15:23.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Are you American?
<2022-11-26T23:15:31.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Or like do you live in Germany?
<2022-11-26T23:15:51.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I live in America, but my family is German
<2022-11-26T23:16:07.000Z> AnimeTradCath: My family mainly hails from Bavaria
<2022-11-26T23:16:53.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: So for you, being Catholic is loyalty to your people and culture?
<2022-11-26T23:18:57.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Not entirely, but it is a large reason
<2022-11-26T23:19:14.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: That aligns with the reason why I converted.
<2022-11-26T23:19:22.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Well, one of the reasons.
<2022-11-26T23:20:47.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I decided to be a Catholic because I learned that the Catholic Church built Western Civilization, and that if the West doesn't return to its Catholic roots then it's at risk of falling to the New World Order.
<2022-11-26T23:22:15.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Realizing that the Church has been such a relentlessly positive influence on society, I felt that Catholicism must be the one true faith as no other religion or religious institution could ever brag such a feat.
<2022-11-26T23:23:46.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I didn't want my great culture and civilization to be replaced with the Rothschilds' ideals.
<2022-11-26T23:24:37.000Z> AnimeTradCath: That's one of the other reasons as to why I converted
<2022-11-26T23:25:24.000Z> AnimeTradCath: That's one of the other reasons as too why I converted
<2022-11-26T23:25:53.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Wow, I kinda that I was the only one who had intentions to convert to Catholicism for those reasons.
<2022-11-26T23:27:00.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: How old are you?
<2022-11-26T23:27:05.000Z> AnimeTradCath: 25
<2022-11-26T23:27:18.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Wow, you're just 3 years older than me.
<2022-11-26T23:27:58.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I'll be 23 in several months.
<2022-11-26T23:28:09.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Very nice?
<2022-11-26T23:28:11.000Z> AnimeTradCath: !*
<2022-11-26T23:28:34.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Normally, the folks in the online groups I hang around are around a decade or more older than me.
<2022-11-26T23:29:48.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Well, Nicecrew is filled with lots of Boomers
<2022-11-26T23:30:31.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I wouldn't know. I'm kinda new here.
<2022-11-26T23:30:46.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Eiregoat referred me like a week or week and a half ago or something.
<2022-11-26T23:32:22.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: So, what redpills have you taken?
<2022-11-26T23:33:51.000Z> AnimeTradCath: How'd you find Nicecrew anyhow?
<2022-11-26T23:35:30.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: If you look at my followers, you'll see a fella who goes by Eiregoat. He told me about Mastodon and Nicecrew.
<2022-11-26T23:36:01.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: He told me about a couple of other home servers as well, and I chose this one.
<2022-11-26T23:36:34.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I know of Eiregoat myself
<2022-11-26T23:36:43.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Er, instances I guess they're called here.
<2022-11-26T23:37:15.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: He also told me about you.
<2022-11-26T23:38:10.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I was looking for tradcath types because it gets lonely being the only one, and he told me that you're one of them.
<2022-11-26T23:38:35.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: So, I decided to message you.
<2022-11-26T23:40:20.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I'm also politically a Fascist, so that heavily contributed to my conversion as well
<2022-11-26T23:42:13.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: When I converted, I think I was a monarchist because I realized that monarchies are stable enough to consistently last longer than any other form of government ever has, combined with knowing that under a monarchy the people are all united under a common ruler rather than being divided over political candidates and easily falling prey to divide and conquer schemes.
<2022-11-26T23:43:36.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: And also the fact that hereditary monarchy is rather difficult for jews to infiltrate because they can't just elect themselves into power - they gotta go to the king and convince him to do what they want directly.
<2022-11-26T23:44:04.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Or they'll have to kill him, and obviously that's probably not the most sneaky thing they could do.
<2022-11-26T23:45:40.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Regarding my "redpills". I would join the Waffen SS to fight the judeo-American Bolshevik front against all that is good, righteous, and virtuous in this world.
<2022-11-26T23:46:28.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Plus, a hereditary monarchy is literally a family ruling over other families, and hence the king has an incentive of personal interest for his own family to promote both family values and also a good future for society - after all, the prince is going to rule the kingdom one day, and any father who loves his children wants a good future for them.
<2022-11-26T23:47:13.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: The nazis were anti-Catholic.
<2022-11-26T23:47:48.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: And remember that the Rothschilds have funded both sides of every major war since the French Revolution.
<2022-11-26T23:47:56.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: That includes WWII.
<2022-11-26T23:48:30.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Why would you want to join the nazis? Or do you mean like teaming up with them in order to bring down a common enemy?
<2022-11-26T23:49:12.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Léon Degrelle was a devout Catholic his entire life and was one of the greatest soldiers in the Waffen SS, who Adolf Hitler honored by stating that he was a son that Hitler wished he had
<2022-11-26T23:52:27.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Sounds like Hitler was just doing the usual politician talk.
<2022-11-26T23:52:53.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: You know, lie to people in order to look good and gain support.
<2022-11-26T23:53:34.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: The Catholic parts of Germany overwhelmingly voted for the Center Catholic Party rather than for the nazis.
<2022-11-26T23:54:10.000Z> AnimeTradCath: The National Socialists fought and defended everything that is good in this World. They're quite literally fighting on the Lord's side against Satan and his demonic jewish servants.
<2022-11-26T23:55:23.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I'm well aware, but those parties would've not done anything to stop what had happened in Germany. 
<2022-11-26T23:56:45.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Don't fool yourself into thinking that everyone holding a political office is a snake oil salesmen like they are here in America.
<2022-11-26T23:56:48.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Have you heard of Mit brennender Sorge?
<2022-11-26T23:57:19.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: And btw, remember that by the time Hitler had risen to power, the Rotschilds already owned Germany.
<2022-11-26T23:57:29.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I've read parts of it
<2022-11-26T23:57:56.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Do you really think that the Rothschilds would let someone who is a genuine threat to them get into a position of power?
<2022-11-26T23:58:00.000Z> AnimeTradCath: The National Socialists arrested a Rothschild and seized his assets 
<2022-11-26T23:58:19.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: And then they let him go, which sounds more like a publicity stunt than anything else.
<2022-11-26T23:59:20.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: The Rothschilds are guilty of very serious crimes against society. Nobody who is honestly opposed to them is going to let them go free. 
<2022-11-27T00:01:53.000Z> AnimeTradCath: They seized 21 million as ransom from him. Hitler, just like Napoleon, nationalized key segments of industry, including the Banks, and made Germany prosper outside of the jewish system while everyone was in a severe economic depression.
<2022-11-27T00:02:27.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Hitler did this by disenfranchising the jew from power in Germany.
<2022-11-27T00:03:30.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: A pope literally wrote a papal encyclical condemning some of the stuff that nazis were promoting, and in fact the nazis even came up with their own sect:
<2022-11-27T00:03:41.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: https://infogalactic.com/info/Positive_Christianity
<2022-11-27T00:04:15.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Even if they were somehow not a tool of the jews against the goyim, that alone doesn't mean that they're good.
<2022-11-27T00:04:34.000Z> AnimeTradCath: The position that Hitler was a Rothschild plant is a convenient position that International jewry and the current judeo-American system doesn't mind you having.
<2022-11-27T00:05:15.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Muslims also hate jews, but they also think that a pedophilic warlord was a prophet.
<2022-11-27T00:06:07.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Positive Christianity came from Himmler and Rosenberg, who were quite literally spergs.
<2022-11-27T00:07:46.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/33363/the-astonishing-secret-history-of-the-pope-who-fought-hitler
<2022-11-27T00:07:49.000Z> AnimeTradCath: It also wouldn't have taken root at all in Germany.
<2022-11-27T00:08:45.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: A good chunk of Germany was protestant.
<2022-11-27T00:08:59.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Protestants will believe all kinds of crazy stuff.
<2022-11-27T00:09:34.000Z> AnimeTradCath: The struggles between Germany and the Vatican is a long and beleaguered one, with its roots well before the Reformation 
<2022-11-27T00:10:06.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: It seems rather unlikely that Positive Christianity did not have the approval of Hitler considering that Hitler let it happen without any apparent resistance.
<2022-11-27T00:10:46.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Germany is one of the children of the Church. Before the Germans became Catholic, those who didn't immigrate to the Roman empire were a bunch of savages.
<2022-11-27T00:11:17.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Mostly Protestants over here believe crazy things, the ones that stayed in Europe are much more level headed. My position is that a truly unified Germany would be very much easier to bring back to Catholicism than a divided one 
<2022-11-27T00:11:55.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: If there ever was a struggle between Germany and the Church, it was because the Germans did something wrong.
<2022-11-27T00:12:52.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Have you ever noticed how ethnically homogeneous and prosperous Europe was before the Reformation? That's because it was a bunch of Catholic monarchies.
<2022-11-27T00:14:09.000Z> AnimeTradCath: The homogeneity of Europe was destroyed because of jews.
<2022-11-27T00:14:22.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: That's partially correct.
<2022-11-27T00:14:36.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: But do you know why they got into power to begin with?
<2022-11-27T00:15:15.000Z> AnimeTradCath: They're the ones actively poisoning the minds of Whites against racially collectivising and bringing in Muslims and non Europeas 
<2022-11-27T00:15:26.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Yes.
<2022-11-27T00:15:30.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Europeans*
<2022-11-27T00:15:55.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: But they got into power because of European countries not submitting to the Church.
<2022-11-27T00:16:49.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Technically Napoleon is to blame for this, as he "liberated" them from their disgusting ghettos. This is more the fault of Liberalism believing that every Man is also separate from his blood.
<2022-11-27T00:17:00.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Sort of.
<2022-11-27T00:17:12.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Liberalism itself is a fruit of the Reformation though.
<2022-11-27T00:17:42.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Liberalism is an Enlightenment concept, and the Reformation paved the way for the Enlightenment.
<2022-11-27T00:17:55.000Z> AnimeTradCath: The jews have been a problem within Catholic Europe well before the reformation, they're quite literally a scourge against the European Man.
<2022-11-27T00:18:27.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Honestly, they're a sourge against everyone but seem to have alot of hatred for Europeans in particular.
<2022-11-27T00:19:40.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Here:
<2022-11-27T00:19:41.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: https://files.catbox.moe/ewucgw.jpg
<2022-11-27T00:20:01.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: https://files.catbox.moe/35tzi7.jpg
<2022-11-27T00:20:45.000Z> AnimeTradCath: 1. They rejected Christ. 2. Europeans were the first to convert when he came to us.
<2022-11-27T00:21:54.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: That's it? Just the timing of the conversion?
<2022-11-27T00:22:09.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: What kind of reason is that to hate an entire race?
<2022-11-27T00:22:53.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Anyway, check out those CatBox links I sent you. They explain the relation between the Reformation and the Enlightenment.
<2022-11-27T00:22:54.000Z> AnimeTradCath: No, were also the only ones capable of destroying them.
<2022-11-27T00:23:26.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: The Catholic Church is their only formidable opponent. That's why they infiltrated the Vatican and caused Vatican II.
<2022-11-27T00:23:46.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I'm currently cooking right now so I'm not 100% focused
<2022-11-27T00:23:51.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Ok.
<2022-11-27T00:24:06.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Wanna vc?
<2022-11-27T00:25:10.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Vc?
<2022-11-27T00:25:31.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Voice chat. We can use Jitsi's website.
<2022-11-27T00:25:38.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Jitsi is like Zoom but open source.
<2022-11-27T00:26:28.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Are you a woman?
<2022-11-27T00:26:36.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Yeah.
<2022-11-27T00:26:49.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: https://meet.jit.si/I-like-cheese
<2022-11-27T00:27:45.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Personally, I prefer voice chats over text if possible, and since you're cooking, I figured why not?
<2022-11-27T00:28:10.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: It leaves your eyes and hands more free than typing.
<2022-11-27T00:28:43.000Z> AnimeTradCath: So, what you're telling me is that I have to retard wrangle you, and we're not even a couple?
<2022-11-27T00:29:11.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: What's retard wrangle?
<2022-11-27T00:30:46.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: We can just voice chat. Video is optional in Jitsi.
<2022-11-27T00:31:05.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Technically in this context it more or less means dealing with a woman.
<2022-11-27T00:31:27.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Well, honestly, I'm really butch.
<2022-11-27T00:31:36.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Like in the way I usually think.
<2022-11-27T00:31:45.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I really turn guys off because of it.
<2022-11-27T00:32:12.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Define "butch"
<2022-11-27T00:32:51.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I think so logically that I have trouble relating to other women and if I make a friend then chances are it's gonna be a guy.
<2022-11-27T00:33:22.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I don't like other women because they think so emotionally.
<2022-11-27T00:33:50.000Z> AnimeTradCath: That's because they're women.
<2022-11-27T00:33:58.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: But I'm a woman and I don't.
<2022-11-27T00:34:14.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Are you autistic?
<2022-11-27T00:34:18.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I know that women are naturally more statistically likely to be emotional thinkers, but unfortunately I'm not.
<2022-11-27T00:34:29.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Except when I'm being neurotic...
<2022-11-27T00:34:36.000Z> AnimeTradCath: That's a genuine question and not me being an ass
<2022-11-27T00:34:42.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: No, if I was autistic then I'd be a literal retard.
<2022-11-27T00:35:28.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I'm just some loser with no friends because I don't want to be friends with most people anyway.
<2022-11-27T00:35:29.000Z> AnimeTradCath: >a woman>Not being retarded
<2022-11-27T00:35:43.000Z> AnimeTradCath attached file https://i.poastcdn.org/480c2ae0a09aa24f0ff330a79deb637278eb6b12fa3b71695e67b40368e10675.png
<2022-11-27T00:36:26.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Negroes are 1 standard deviation below Whites as far as IQ goes, but there's the occasional one who is smart.
<2022-11-27T00:36:33.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I'm fine with being friends, I'm also just not 100% interested in chatting too much right now 
<2022-11-27T00:36:42.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Men are both smarter and dumber than women on average.
<2022-11-27T00:38:02.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Ok.
<2022-11-27T00:38:35.000Z> AnimeTradCath attached file https://i.poastcdn.org/29aaedfdac895535ba3b8bc315334261f0a3a07d6e71f53832ed5ae1f90a1caf.mp4
<2022-11-27T00:38:35.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Well, anyway, national socialism implements Enlightenment concepts.
<2022-11-27T00:39:42.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I'm well aware, but the whole of the Enlightenment was terrible.
<2022-11-27T00:39:58.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I know.
<2022-11-27T00:40:35.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: And if we permit even the slightest bit of Enlightenment concepts to be a part of society, it will grow and take over, and  eventually turn into what we have now.
<2022-11-27T00:40:40.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Napoleon also solved the French Revolution by effectively enacting an Absolutist Monarchy when he crowned himself Emperor.
<2022-11-27T00:41:13.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: That's why I'm not a nat soc. Even though the nat socs did get some stuff right, the fact that they believe in Enlightenment ideas of any kind makes them an enemy.
<2022-11-27T00:42:03.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Just like how muslims don't tolerate homosexuality, and yet they think it's ok for a grown man to fondle little girls in the bath.
<2022-11-27T00:42:59.000Z> AnimeTradCath: That's more of a characteristic pertaining to Arabs, and not necessarily Islam as a whole 
<2022-11-27T00:43:13.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: No, it's an Islamic thing.
<2022-11-27T00:43:20.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Islam has no tolerance of homosexuality.
<2022-11-27T00:43:39.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: But Mohammad fondled a girl in the bath, and we know this because she wrote it in the Quaran.
<2022-11-27T00:43:48.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: She was one of his wives.
<2022-11-27T00:43:57.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: He married her when she was 9.
<2022-11-27T00:44:22.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Before Islam, Arabia was largely Christian and pagan.
<2022-11-27T00:45:08.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I can't speak for Arabic pagans and I don't know as much about their beliefs, but no real Christian thinks that's ok.
<2022-11-27T00:45:24.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: *He married that girl when she was 6 and consumated that marriage when she was 9
<2022-11-27T00:46:06.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I'm not denying this, but the blood is also an expressive force as Religion is. Mexicans are technically Catholic, but they by blood are also pedophilic like Arabs are
<2022-11-27T00:46:47.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Pedophilia is not in anyone's blood. People become pedos because either they were raped or they're coomers who decided to act out what they saw in porn.
<2022-11-27T00:48:05.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: When molestation is a person's first sexual experience, especially they're a child, that can imprint on them and make them think that's perfectly normal and ok behavior. Usually, pedos who became pedo after molestation got molested as a kid.
<2022-11-27T00:48:49.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Have you heard of the concept of limpieza de sangre?
<2022-11-27T00:51:23.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: There is no biological incentive for the sexual attraction to children.
<2022-11-27T00:51:48.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Now teenagers, it makes sense to be attracted to because they're physically an adult.
<2022-11-27T00:52:46.000Z> AnimeTradCath: While you're are correct that pedophilia is a trait that occurs in an individual as a result of sexual trauma as a child, different races have different metrics at when a girl becomes a woman. For Europeans who are the most K selected Race on the planet, our innate understanding view of this is much later than that of other more savage races.
<2022-11-27T00:53:30.000Z> AnimeTradCath: A people's culture is a result of both their blood and spirit
<2022-11-27T00:54:06.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: It's not that there's a genetic view of when a girl becomes a woman.
<2022-11-27T00:54:15.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I mean, besides looks.
<2022-11-27T00:54:27.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I think a guy can tell a 20 year old apart from a 10 year old.
<2022-11-27T00:55:03.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Men are genetically wired to be attracted to females who display physical signs of being post-pubescent.
<2022-11-27T00:55:24.000Z> AnimeTradCath: They can, but these more savage races view the act of mensuration as the changing point regardless of age.
<2022-11-27T00:55:44.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: In Islam, that is true.
<2022-11-27T00:56:10.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: But that's not a race thing, it's a cultural thing.
<2022-11-27T00:56:26.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I know that to a degree culture is the fruit of race, but not entirely.
<2022-11-27T00:56:31.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Technically Mohammad didn't consummate the marriage until Aisha was older.
<2022-11-27T00:56:57.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: No, he did it when she was around 9 or 10 because that's when she had her first period.
<2022-11-27T00:57:36.000Z> AnimeTradCath: something that 99.99% of Europeans find innately disgusting
<2022-11-27T00:58:07.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Well yeah, but Europeans also have Catholic roots.
<2022-11-27T00:58:45.000Z> AnimeTradCath: The Lord made Man out of both Spirit and Flesh, so both his Spirit and Blood are necessary to understand Man
<2022-11-27T00:59:47.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Do you think that only Europeans are descended from Adam and Eve>
<2022-11-27T01:00:41.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I believe that Europeans, and by extension most Aryan populations, are the least degenerated from Adam and Eve
<2022-11-27T01:01:33.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Ok.
<2022-11-27T01:02:11.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Maybe, maybe not. There's no way to tell for those of us who aren't dead yet.
<2022-11-27T01:02:34.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I mean we can't just go get Adam and Eve to give us a DNA sample to compare.
<2022-11-27T01:03:51.000Z> AnimeTradCath: this is very true
<2022-11-27T01:05:25.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I suspect that the continents were created by God separating people via language and geography. This may also explain why some animals and plants are only natively found in certain places.
<2022-11-27T01:05:49.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Like God broke up one continent into a bunch of different ones, and probably also islands as well.
<2022-11-27T01:06:57.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Anyway, so wanted to tell you about a very little known (in the Anglosphere) piece of history that is among the most based of all.
<2022-11-27T01:08:21.000Z> AnimeTradCath: okay
<2022-11-27T01:09:02.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Spain was under Islamic rule for about 700 years.
<2022-11-27T01:09:20.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: The Spanish got sick of it and took back Spain from the muslims.
<2022-11-27T01:09:47.000Z> AnimeTradCath: yes and the Spainards through Righteous Struggle reconquered their lands and drove out the Muslims
<2022-11-27T01:09:50.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: They basically said  "To all muslims and jews: you can either convert or get the heck outta here"
<2022-11-27T01:10:04.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Some muslims and jews did convert, or at least claimed to.
<2022-11-27T01:10:10.000Z> AnimeTradCath: The Reconquista was both a racial and religious struggle
<2022-11-27T01:10:11.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: But then there was a new problem:
<2022-11-27T01:10:55.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: How did the Spanish know that they were really Catholic and not just cryptojews and cryptomuslims?
<2022-11-27T01:11:18.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: This right here, this next part, is what is rarely ever acknowledged.
<2022-11-27T01:12:22.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: As far as the Spanish were concerned, they had been Catholic for so long that Catholicism was in their blood, and therefor they could only trust each other because they knew that Spaniards were definitely Catholic.
<2022-11-27T01:13:03.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: This right here, the in-group preference of Spaniards for other Spaniards over the supposedly converted jews and muslims, was called Limpieza de Sangre.
<2022-11-27T01:13:17.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: And it was born of Catholicism.
<2022-11-27T01:13:45.000Z> AnimeTradCath: And Fascism was borne out of Catholicism as well
<2022-11-27T01:14:15.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: You see, when a country is Catholic, that is when its government submits to the rule of the Catholic Church, either ethnic homogeneity or a race-based caste system results.
<2022-11-27T01:14:32.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: In a society that strays from Catholicism, multiculturalism eventually takes over.
<2022-11-27T01:14:56.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Look at what used to be the Spanish Empire: full of mestizos
<2022-11-27T01:15:29.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: But under Spanish rule, it was subject to a caste system with Whites on top, blacks at the bottom, and native Americans in the middle.
<2022-11-27T01:16:24.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: How did it become so full of mestizos? Well, the Spanish monarchy decided to make law the Bourbon Reforms, which prioritized the Spanish monarchy over the Church.
<2022-11-27T01:17:24.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Naturally, a couple centuries passed and the Spanish Americas were under attack by jews.
<2022-11-27T01:17:58.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: The jews promoted race mixing and the concept that Whiteness is evil. Same thing they're doing to the West right now.
<2022-11-27T01:18:54.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Ultimately, the jews destroyed the Spanish empire, making it go from a first world country to a bunch of crappy countries.
<2022-11-27T01:19:29.000Z> AnimeTradCath: while that may all be true, you're more or less monologuing at this point
<2022-11-27T01:20:04.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: No, I'm trying to point out something to you - there's a consistent pattern: stray from God, have your country/city destroyed
<2022-11-27T01:20:21.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I'm well aware of this
<2022-11-27T01:20:31.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Most nat socs don't see it.
<2022-11-27T01:21:20.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Without the Church, jews get into power, and with jews you lose. As such, jews are merely a symptom of an upstream problem - they are the vultures feeding upon the carrion, they didn't make the carrion themselves.
<2022-11-27T01:21:36.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: They simply took advantage of the opportunity they saw.
<2022-11-27T01:23:02.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: If we want to foil the jews' plans, we must strictly be against all heresies without any exceptions, and we must return to tradition, rejecting anything that is anti-Catholic in origin.
<2022-11-27T01:23:59.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: This means rejecting a ton of things, from Enlightenment ideals such as that the state should not submit to the Catholic Church to ecumenism and even women wearing pants.
<2022-11-27T01:24:47.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: If we make even the slightest compromise, we are inviting the jews to cause trouble.
<2022-11-27T01:27:29.000Z> AnimeTradCath: How attractive are you?
<2022-11-27T01:27:46.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Uh...
<2022-11-27T01:28:25.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I'd say that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but statistically that's 80% untrue...
<2022-11-27T01:29:15.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: It is 20% in the eye of the beholder... so I guess that beauty is in the eye of the beholder?
<2022-11-27T01:30:19.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Beauty being in the eye of the beholder can be attributed to the works or Da Vinci and Michelangelo.
<2022-11-27T01:30:53.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: What do you mean?
<2022-11-27T01:31:06.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I'm not well-versed in art.
<2022-11-27T01:31:24.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Comparing their works to anything that could be considered "Modern Art" you can see a clear distinction between what is attractive versus what isn't
<2022-11-27T01:31:56.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: If you're saying that modern art sucks, I agree.
<2022-11-27T01:32:04.000Z> AnimeTradCath: That I am
<2022-11-27T01:33:37.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: You can take a bunch of laxatives, and take a big dump on a piece of paper, and these days it'd pass as art.
<2022-11-27T01:34:20.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Stating whether or not The Last Supper or the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel is more beautiful than the other is redundant as their beauty is so immense that to within the eye of the beholder, but if you are to compare either with the degenerate filth of Modern Art that you can clearly see that beauty is no longer subjective, but objective.
<2022-11-27T01:34:46.000Z> AnimeTradCath: so again, are you attactive?
<2022-11-27T01:37:32.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Beauty is as objective as it is subjective
<2022-11-27T01:39:34.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: There's no doubt that true beauty is objective.
<2022-11-27T01:39:50.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I was just trying to avoid saying something that would tempt you to have lustful thoughts.
<2022-11-27T01:40:28.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Physical attractiveness is about 80% shared and 20% in the eye of the beholder, which is what I was referencing.
<2022-11-27T01:42:16.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I appreciate your concern, but descriptions aren't temptations for me
<2022-11-27T01:42:40.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: IDK, guys are huge horndogs.
<2022-11-27T01:43:42.000Z> AnimeTradCath attached file https://i.poastcdn.org/29aaedfdac895535ba3b8bc315334261f0a3a07d6e71f53832ed5ae1f90a1caf.mp4
<2022-11-27T01:44:19.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I know men better than do most women.
<2022-11-27T01:44:27.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I know what they like, how they tend to think.
<2022-11-27T01:44:45.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I've hung around in male-dominated circles for years.
<2022-11-27T01:44:55.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Oftentimes being the token female of the group.
<2022-11-27T01:46:01.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I'm acutely aware of what tempts me, and this isn't the setting for those temptations to arise
<2022-11-27T01:47:01.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I may or may not be attractive.
<2022-11-27T01:47:33.000Z> AnimeTradCath: how descriptive
<2022-11-27T01:47:39.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I'm too much of a health freak to be fat.
<2022-11-27T01:47:58.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I've been an informal scholar of nutrition for years.
<2022-11-27T01:49:07.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: And I know that alone tends to make guys think that a girl is attractive. Which makes sense, as no one in their right mind is attracted to someone who looks like soft serve ice cream.
<2022-11-27T01:49:17.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Only mega coomers are into that.
<2022-11-27T01:51:24.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Considering how proud you are to be German, I'm guessing you like blonde hair and blue eyes?
<2022-11-27T01:51:48.000Z> AnimeTradCath: It's certainly a plus, but not madatory
<2022-11-27T01:52:08.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Even though alot of Germans don't have that... the blonde-haired blue-eyed superiority idea makes more sense for the Dutch or Swedes.
<2022-11-27T01:52:39.000Z> AnimeTradCath: That's because it wasn't a note of superiority for the National Socialists
<2022-11-27T01:52:41.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I don't get why it's associated with Germans in particular.
<2022-11-27T01:54:11.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I'll tell you this much: I'm blonde-haired and blue-eyed and am not fat.
<2022-11-27T01:54:37.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I don't want to go into too much detail because guys really drool over girls like me...
<2022-11-27T01:54:54.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: The hard thing is finding one who isn't repelled by who I am on the inside.
<2022-11-27T01:55:26.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I'm more concerned with that than just physical beauty
<2022-11-27T01:55:42.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I had a guy who seemed to be interested in me until he realized my ethno-nationalist leanings.
<2022-11-27T01:56:49.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I'd rather not waste my time on a civ nat anyway.
<2022-11-27T01:58:19.000Z> AnimeTradCath: they're usually cowards politically
<2022-11-27T01:58:31.000Z> AnimeTradCath: or just naïve 
<2022-11-27T02:00:49.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I came out to my mom as a racist with something like "Well, the thing is... you see... I am racist", and she was so shocked ahaha!
<2022-11-27T01:59:08.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: It is pretty cowardly to get all scared of being called racist.
<2022-11-27T01:59:41.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: And the looks on liberals' faces when you shamelessly admit to being racist haha!
<2022-11-27T02:02:13.000Z> AnimeTradCath: that's because they perceive of everyone as being exactly like them
<2022-11-27T02:02:17.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Owning your racism gives you power over others, and you can revel in the faces thar result from doing so.
<2022-11-27T02:03:25.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I guess, but I think it's more because they've been trained to submit to a certain dynamic and have others submit to it, that is, the dynamic of if you get called racist then you have to defend yourself.
<2022-11-27T02:04:44.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: When you openly admit that you're racist, you defy expectation and as such you catch them off guard. It doesn't even occur to them that someone may not only be racist but also perfectly ok with being a racist.
<2022-11-27T02:05:52.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: They're so trained to the particular dynamic of one having to defend oneself from accusations of being racist that they are unprepared for people who are racist and are not ashamed of it.
<2022-11-27T02:09:33.000Z> AnimeTradCath: How'd you come to all of this?
<2022-11-27T02:13:05.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: The short story is that I was a 13 or 14 year old atheist who watched the Amazing Atheist's video that he made in reaction to Anita Sarkeesian's nonsense, decided to see if she was actually serious, found that she seemed to actually be serious, got triggered as I was a huge gamer at the time, started watching anti-SJW videos, surfed through comments and recommended videos, checked out videos recommended in comments... and then the rest is my conversion story, which includes how I got redpilled on the JQ.
<2022-11-27T02:14:56.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: As for my conversion story, there was a soundboard prank caller on YouTube (who since deleted his account, sadly) who was a very talented prankster and who started advertising a Discord channel in his videos. I popped in - this was my first time on Discord - and got to know him.
<2022-11-27T02:17:10.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: He introduced me to a buddy of his who, over the course of about a year, if not exactly a year, redpilled me into realizing that the Catholic Church built Western Civilization and that as such we gotta return the West to its Catholic roots. He redpilled me on the JQ, showing me that it's not Sabbatean Frankists that are the problem but that Judaism in/of itself is not the Judaism of the Old Testament.
<2022-11-27T02:20:15.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: The ethnonationalist stuff I got into back in my Discord days. I was a civ nat because I grew up in a like 99% White area and thus I didn't really understand the appeal of it. Discord debates made me start to understand the appeal of ethno-nationalism a bit better, but what really made me ethnonationalist was moving to MexiCongo - I mean, uh Colorado.
<2022-11-27T02:22:27.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Seriously, Denver is overrun with mestizos and there's a store here that was like a black ethnostate last time I saw it.
<2022-11-27T02:22:55.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: The worst part about it is how complacent even the people at my church are with this literal invasion. It's enraging.
<2022-11-27T02:23:37.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I want to be around people who look like me. Maybe a token negro or Asian, but like 90% White at least.
<2022-11-27T02:24:19.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: When I'm around alot of non-Whites, I feel like I'm in their country rather than my own. I don't like feeling like foreigner in my own country.
<2022-11-27T02:24:57.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: How'd you get redpilled?
<2022-11-27T02:27:01.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: In that store, a black dude gave me the most predatory stare. I stood for a few moments, looked around, and went to my dad, and only after that dude realized I wasn't alone did he lose interest in me.
<2022-11-27T02:28:08.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Good thing that I knew not to relax around blacks, and that my dad was with me.
<2022-11-27T02:31:00.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Just a moment 
<2022-11-27T02:41:59.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Regarding how I came to where I currently am politically and religiously
<2022-11-27T02:43:41.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I was an Atheist watching Sargon and the Amazing Atheist when gamer gate happened. I was for the most part became more Libertarian until I realized that a State is always going to exist and is a necessary thing since Man is a social animal
<2022-11-27T02:45:03.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Gamer Gate was the first time that I became aware of the filth that existed, since I am an avid video game enjoyer
<2022-11-27T02:45:49.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Holy crap, that's so much like me!
<2022-11-27T02:46:29.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Eventually I found TRS from some Libertarian YouTube channels and I slowly over time became more and more fascist. I read some politically theory as well and agreed with the whole of it.
<2022-11-27T02:47:10.000Z> AnimeTradCath: This corresponds to my conversion to Catholicism as well, as I slowly over the same period drifted towards the Church.
<2022-11-27T02:47:49.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I went from being largely politically neutral to becoming libertarian-ish from Anita Sarkesian's nonsense and the anti-SJW videos, eventually drifting further right.
<2022-11-27T02:49:00.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Now a days I support the complete and total destruction of both world jewry and the judeo-American order
<2022-11-27T02:52:50.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Have you read Joseph de Maistre's works?
<2022-11-27T02:53:16.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I have not, but this is because I haven't been able to find any of his books
<2022-11-27T03:11:57.000Z> AnimeTradCath: what about yourself?
<2022-11-27T03:14:39.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Not really, but honestly just studying history made me agree with him.
<2022-11-27T03:15:04.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I didn't even need to read his works, I just came to his position on my own.
<2022-11-27T03:15:40.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: You should totally read his works. They're mega based, and I wanna see what you think of 'em.
<2022-11-27T03:18:31.000Z> AnimeTradCath: What do you enjoy reading?
<2022-11-27T03:19:57.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: The Invisible Rainbow is a pretty good book.
<2022-11-27T03:20:26.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: The one by Arthur Firstenberg.
<2022-11-27T03:22:34.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Besides the stuff from Joseph de Maistre, Memoirs on the History of Jacobinism by Fr. Barruel is another good read. It's about how the Enlightenment was planned by jews in advance as a conspiracy against the Church and against monarchy.
<2022-11-27T03:23:37.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I have all 4 books in that series as a citation for my stance on the Enlightenment, having gotten them after I achieved that stance. But be warned - the English translation contains long S, which is a letter that fell out of use in the 1800s.
<2022-11-27T03:24:26.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Don't be intimidated by any letters that look like a lowercase f without the horizontal lines, it's just a long S and it's basically equivalent to regular S.
<2022-11-27T03:25:22.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: If you speak French, you'd might be able to read direct reprints of both de Maistre's and Fr. Barruel's works.
<2022-11-27T03:26:00.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Currently I don't speak that bastard tongue that hails from West of the Rhine
<2022-11-27T03:26:39.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Haha, I only know a few sentences of French and a word or 2 in German and other languages.
<2022-11-27T03:26:58.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I am currently learning my Mother Tongue of German
<2022-11-27T03:29:33.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Personally, I can pick up on pronunciation systems with ease but I can't learn grammar without a tutor.
<2022-11-27T03:29:50.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: As a result, I know the majority of the Latin pronunciation system.
<2022-11-27T03:30:06.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I'd pick up on the grammar to some extent if only I could learn the lexicon.
<2022-11-27T03:30:18.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I wanted to learn Latin for theological study.
<2022-11-27T03:31:34.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Koine Greek would be a bit better, as the Church started in the Greek side of the Empire
<2022-11-27T03:34:44.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I wanted to study the works of popes and medieval theologians mostly, maybe the Vulgate.
<2022-11-27T03:35:22.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: The early Church had some goodies too, but my favorite period of all is the medieval era. Society was truly at its height back then.
<2022-11-27T03:35:36.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Once I did that, then I'd might move onto learning Koine Greek if I could.
<2022-11-27T03:36:50.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: You know, you're lucky to be fully one ethnicity. I can kinda relate to mixed race people but to a lesser degree because I at least have one race to belong to.
<2022-11-27T03:37:50.000Z> AnimeTradCath: White Americans are still European, and would have constituted another European Ethnicity if the jews hadn't prevented the process
<2022-11-27T03:38:10.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: White Americans are basically European noblemen.
<2022-11-27T03:38:39.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: It was the peasants who were pure. Royalty and noblemen mixed with other European ethnicities.
<2022-11-27T03:42:28.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: If you wanna read some stuff from Joseph de Maistre, here ya go: http://maistre.uni.cx/
<2022-11-27T03:43:57.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Most of what I read these days has to do with health/diet related research, informally of course.
<2022-11-27T03:44:55.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Either that or homesteading stuff. Recently, I was looking into intercropping barley with peas for overwintering sheep and goats.
<2022-11-27T03:45:59.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Trying to get info on what yields I could expect from doing so at what growth stages, trying to take into account the fact that barley tends to be higher in protein than other forages and trying to figure out how that compares to the needs of sheep, goats, and ponies.
<2022-11-27T03:46:21.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I wanna be a self-sufficient homesteader.
<2022-11-27T03:47:05.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: And more specifically, a rancher. I don't need vegetables, just meat, eggs, and dairy. I'll save the veggies for the sheep and then eat them as lamb or maybe mutton.
<2022-11-27T03:48:03.000Z> AnimeTradCath: quite the catch
<2022-11-27T03:51:01.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I got almost everything all figured out for a homestead, although I think that I might modify my current plans on whether to use barley hay or oat hay for sheep, goats, and ponies. The deciding factor may be soil ph, considering that barley doesn't do so great on soils below a certain ph.
<2022-11-27T03:52:20.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: But anyway.
<2022-11-27T03:55:52.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Have you heard of terrain theory?
<2022-11-27T03:56:33.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I have not
<2022-11-27T03:56:39.000Z> AnimeTradCath: enlighten me
<2022-11-27T03:57:21.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Here's a documentary about it: https://terrainthefilm.com/world-premiere/?utm_source=Terrain%20%7C%20The%20Film%3A%20ALL&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Courtesy%20Email%3A%20NEW%20WATCH%20LINKS%20TO%20JOIN%20SATURDAY%3A%20Terrain%20The%20Film%20%28Th3SGj%29&_kx=hESbRJ3L8Kxt2d49DsKDpUCeZZ9vRsORST4LtQjUDEIP14E2Wf-Et_z2XnPHWOKw.UpXyYd
<2022-11-27T03:57:42.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: A relevant article: https://12bytes.org/articles/health/germ-theory-isnt-spreading-like-it-used-to/
<2022-11-27T03:59:25.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: If you'd prefer to read a book about it, I could recommend Bechamp or Pasteur, but personally I haven't read it. The Contagion Myth, on the other hand, I did read and in fact it's what taught me about terrain theory: https://archive.ph/FOJE2
<2022-11-27T04:00:50.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: The Contagion Myth has some weird stuff in it, but the bulk of the book is scientifically sound, with citations to prove it. 
<2022-11-27T04:01:36.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: In fact, I got The Invisible Rainbow because it was cited by The Contagion Myth.
<2022-11-27T04:04:10.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: You don't have to look at each and every one of those links; just take your pick of which format you prefer.
<2022-11-27T04:04:44.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I like to have an array of videos, articles, and books on a given subject in order to educate people with different learning preferences.
<2022-11-27T04:05:59.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Like I personally tend to be rather auditory, so I may listen to a video while I edit my HTML documents or whatever. Other people may prefer to read or to actually watch a video.
<2022-11-27T04:11:52.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Very cool!
<2022-11-27T04:12:10.000Z> AnimeTradCath: You'll probably have to remind me of all of this
<2022-11-27T04:12:30.000Z> AnimeTradCath: What do you enjoy doing?
<2022-11-27T04:16:56.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: When should I remind you? Just tell me and I’ll write a reminder to do so.
<2022-11-27T04:17:33.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Remind you to look into the megabased works of Joseph de Maistre, terrain theory… is there anything I’m missing for the reminder?
<2022-11-27T04:24:06.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Now as for what I enjoy doing: listening to scary stories, listening to prank calls and scambaiting calls, researching anything I feel like, singing, playing PS2 (especially Ratchet and Clank), watching cartoons, viewing memes, making my cat purr…
<2022-11-27T04:25:19.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: One of my favorite cartoons is My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic, and I’ll often sing songs from either that or Equestria Girls. 
<2022-11-27T04:25:38.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Oh, and watching documentaries. I do love a good documentary.
<2022-11-27T04:26:03.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: How about you; what are your hobbies?
<2022-11-27T04:56:17.000Z> AnimeTradCath: mANY THINGS
<2022-11-27T04:56:42.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I enjoy studying history quite a lot
<2022-11-27T04:57:52.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Theology, philosophy, and politics to a lesser extent
<2022-11-27T04:59:43.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Baking and reading I enjoy quite lot as well
<2022-11-27T05:02:51.000Z> AnimeTradCath: That's all my tired mind can summon at the moment
<2022-11-27T05:37:47.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I like studying history, politics, and theology too. Philosophy I have enjoyed studying as well, but I haven’t studied it in a while.
<2022-11-27T05:38:45.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Ah, ya like reading? I got lots of good reading material for you.
<2022-11-27T05:39:05.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Well, educational reading material anyway.
<2022-11-27T05:42:23.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Have you seen The Catholic Church - Builder of Civilization? If not, it’s a great watch.
<2022-11-27T05:42:43.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: You can find it on YouTube as a playlist if you wanna watch it.
<2022-11-27T05:43:57.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: There’s also what is essentially a book form of it too: How the Catholic Church Built Western Civilization by Thomas E. Woods.
<2022-11-27T05:48:26.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Tell me more about your hobbies and interests once you’re not tired lol. And ya know, history, politics, philosophy and theology are all linked: politics is influenced by theology, philosophy is kind of a part of theology in a way (St. Thomas Aquinas cites Aristotle alot), and of course history also influences politics because if we don’t learn from the mistakes of the past then we’ll repeat them.
<2022-11-27T05:49:29.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Without a proper understanding of theology, history, and philosophy, it’s impossible to properly understand politics.
<2022-11-27T05:52:51.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I don’t really bake as I refrain from consuming vegetation, unless you count me occasionally throwing some meat in the oven for a while, like beef ribs or beef shanks. Beef shanks are extremely underrated, and so is raw meat. I’m an Eskimo in a White person’s body: I prefer cold temperatures over temperatures and I love raw beef. I love how when I eat raw beef, the fat melts in my mouth instead of in a pan. In fact, if you ask me, beef fat trimmings tend to be better raw than cooked. 
<2022-11-27T05:57:07.000Z> AnimeTradCath: You do realize that baking isn't vegetarian? 
<2022-11-27T05:57:55.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Most of the time, when people talk about baking, they mean making vegetarian stuff like cake and cookies.
<2022-11-27T05:58:33.000Z> AnimeTradCath: What cake or cookie is vegetarian?
<2022-11-27T05:58:53.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Eggs and dairy are vegetarian but not vegan.
<2022-11-27T05:59:19.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Eggs and Dairy are just as important as meat is
<2022-11-27T05:59:51.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I love dairy and eggs. Eggs are better with dairy though. Who doesn’t like cheesey eggs?
<2022-11-27T06:00:33.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I prefer my eggs as is
<2022-11-27T06:00:41.000Z> AnimeTradCath: sunny side up to be specific
<2022-11-27T06:00:50.000Z> AnimeTradCath: and slightly raw
<2022-11-27T06:01:14.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I’m not picky about my eggs. I’ll eat them with or without cheese, and cooked any way.
<2022-11-27T06:03:40.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: On days when the Church demands that I refrain from consuming meat, I’ll just consume dairy (I’d eat eggs, but good eggs here are more costly than good milk and yogurt).
<2022-11-27T06:05:04.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I have a cookbook of plant-less recipes that includes a chapter of cool charts and graphs and stuff like that about the effects of such a diet in humans.
<2022-11-27T06:07:31.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: There has been a resurgence of interest in the carnivore diet largely due to it solving autoimmune issues that can’t be solved otherwise. And actually, it makes alot of sense that the carnivore diet, of all things, would cure autoimmune issues. Dr. Ken Berry made a video about it. Very interesting stuff.
<2022-11-27T06:08:31.000Z> AnimeTradCath: It maybe preferable if we chatted elsewhere
<2022-11-27T06:08:42.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Such as…?
<2022-11-27T06:09:13.000Z> AnimeTradCath: do you have an element?
<2022-11-27T06:09:25.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I used to have Element.
<2022-11-27T06:09:55.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I quit using it because a creep doxxed me on there.
<2022-11-27T06:10:03.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I didn’t want him to find me again.
<2022-11-27T06:11:17.000Z> AnimeTradCath: understandable
<2022-11-27T06:11:45.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: It was my fault. I had bad opsec in the past.
<2022-11-27T06:12:02.000Z> AnimeTradCath: everyone makes mistakes
<2022-11-27T06:12:21.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Yeah, the important thing is that we learn from them.
<2022-11-27T06:13:41.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Where are you from?
<2022-11-27T06:15:22.000Z> AnimeTradCath: The South
<2022-11-27T06:16:10.000Z> AnimeTradCath: but my blood is German
<2022-11-27T06:17:10.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I’m from from the Northeast originally, but now I’m stuck in MexiCongo Commierado.
<2022-11-27T06:17:29.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I currently live in the Northeast
<2022-11-27T06:17:45.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Really? I’m from redneck New York.
<2022-11-27T06:18:55.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: NYC should realy just join New Jersey or something because New Yorkers hate the NYC folks and their policies.
<2022-11-27T06:21:03.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: New York is practically a White ethnostate. You might see a token non-White or 2 but other than that it’s like all-Whites. Beautiful hardwood forests. It’d probably be perfect if the statewide laws were made for the bulk of the state’s land area instead of just the folks of NYC.
<2022-11-27T06:24:53.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I miss the Whiteness, the lake effect snow, the humidity, the forests… It’s sad to know that it’s not even worth going back to my home state because of the state government catering to NYC.
<2022-11-27T06:24:54.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Do you have a suggestion of another platform?
<2022-11-27T06:26:43.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: What particular features are you looking for?
<2022-11-27T06:28:15.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: That’d help me figure out what would be a good one to use.
<2022-11-27T06:29:12.000Z> AnimeTradCath: The main thing is just not talking on here
<2022-11-27T06:30:07.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: So literally anything other than here? There’s nothing in particular?
<2022-11-27T06:30:24.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: That’s pretty broad.
<2022-11-27T06:34:50.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Well, maybe I’ll check out how FOSScord is doing on Monday…
<2022-11-27T06:35:31.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Element is pretty much the only thing that I use
<2022-11-27T06:36:20.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Looks like it’s doing pretty good, but I go anywhere on there besides DMs I’ll be found out.
<2022-11-27T06:36:36.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I mean with the Discord-like-ness and all.
<2022-11-27T06:37:09.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Element does seem to be achieving their goal of being a Discord alternative.
<2022-11-27T06:37:39.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I had a bit of a reputation on Element.
<2022-11-27T06:43:04.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: FOSScord may be better because it’s not likely that I’ll run into people I know on there.
<2022-11-27T06:44:16.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Plus, it is meant to be a Discord clone, although I’m not sure if it’s federated or like isolated instanced without any federation. I’ll try to figure something out.
<2022-11-27T06:45:30.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I have no idea what that is 
<2022-11-27T06:47:48.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Also I try my hand at writing poetry and I enjoy working out 
<2022-11-27T06:48:22.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I used to write poetry, and I guess I still do on rare occasions.
<2022-11-27T06:50:22.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I actually quit writing poetry except in secret because I didn’t want anyone to make a big deal about it. I don’t want to get famous over an amateur work. I wrote poems when I was a kid and my mom acted like it was so great, whereas I felt embarrassed by it. Working out is a good hobby for a dude, especially lifting.
<2022-11-27T06:51:09.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Now as for what FOSScord is, it’s basically open source Discord but last I saw was in early stages of development, even using Discord’s GUI.
<2022-11-27T06:51:51.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I write poetry because I enjoy writing it. Your Mom sounds like she was being a mother 
<2022-11-27T06:54:29.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I have a poet’s mind. I’ve been good with words since I was at least like 11. I’m good at coming up with rhymes, converting sounds I hear into the sounds I make (hence why I like singing), and I can word things very eloquently but I lack any charisma whatsoever.
<2022-11-27T06:57:26.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Speaking of my mom being a mother, I’m not dumb enough to tell her what embarrasses me because I know that she’ll want to talk about it more if I do.
<2022-11-27T06:58:52.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I wonder if I’ll be like her some day.
<2022-11-27T06:59:33.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Given the amount of wall texts that you've written so far, it sounds like that you're somewhat lonely 
<2022-11-27T06:59:47.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Oh yeah, big time.
<2022-11-27T07:01:13.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: My apologies if that bothers you. I just bottle so much up from never really being able to talk to people. I have no IRL friends but deep down am a huge extrovert despite how picky I am about who I wanna be friends with.
<2022-11-27T07:01:33.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Well lucky for you, I enjoy chatting from time to time 
<2022-11-27T07:02:47.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Eiregoat tried to give me some tips on how to be less despicable, but it’ll be a while before it really clicks with me, if it ever will.
<2022-11-27T07:03:47.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: It’s kinda weird that he doesn’t seem bothered by it. I guess that he’s just a freak like me.
<2022-11-27T07:04:29.000Z> AnimeTradCath: You haven't bothered me one bit
<2022-11-27T07:04:50.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Well, maybe you’re a freak too.
<2022-11-27T07:05:33.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Perhaps the 3 of us will form the Freak Friends gang.
<2022-11-27T07:06:19.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Where despicableness is tolerated, almost like a safe space but no black gay disabled trannies allowed allowed.
<2022-11-27T07:11:21.000Z> AnimeTradCath attached file https://i.poastcdn.org/d78e9db3ffc4d5f2dd0b8002463a60a1124d9eeb5639a97dac4bd46b8f03770e.jpg
<2022-11-27T07:12:40.000Z> AnimeTradCath: At this point I'm more or less concerned with how "attractive" you are and what your internal disposition is
<2022-11-27T07:32:32.000Z> AnimeTradCath: What's with the name?
<2022-11-27T16:07:24.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Well, I’m of a melancholic-choleric temperament and as is more frequent the case with melancholic people, I have neurotic tendencies. My name reflects my mixed European ancestry and the fact that I don’t want to be assumed to be a dude.
<2022-11-27T16:11:32.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Neurotic like OCD. As is legit OCD, like I have to do things a certain way or else I start panicking. I’m very sensitive to changes in routine. However, in the past I have found that with the right companionship I can start to be less panicky.
<2022-11-27T16:16:05.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I’m practically always trying to figure out how to minimize risk. I do alot of research and will make elaborate plans for myself in order to do so and in order to do so.
<2022-11-27T16:16:55.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Sorry about the repeat but I’m on my phone.
<2022-11-27T16:20:04.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I myself am much more Phlegmatic 
<2022-11-27T16:22:21.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: My guess is that either I need a phlegmatic man to give me room to express myself or a choleric man who is so intensely logical that I can get him to do anything as long as I can back it up with logic and facts.
<2022-11-27T16:23:19.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Considering your interest in studies such as history, politics, theology, and philosophy, I’m guessing that you’re melancholic-phlegmatic?
<2022-11-27T16:26:54.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Being choleric is a big problem for me as a woman… alot of guys want some chick who they can boss around and are intimidated by women who must be appealed to with logic and facts rather than “I have a penis, so do what I say!”. I’m not an RC car. I have a brain. I will not obey with force.
<2022-11-27T16:29:01.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I am to be treated as a companion, not a servant, as I think Pope Leo XIII (maybe Pope Pius XI” said that a wife is to be treated by her husband.
<2022-11-27T16:30:16.000Z> AnimeTradCath: More or less Phlegmatic-Melancholic
<2022-11-27T16:31:02.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Interesting. Usually Phlegmatic is a secondary temperament, I think.
<2022-11-27T16:32:14.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I am quite aloof with things, so I most certainly need a woman who'll throw some fire underneath me 
<2022-11-27T16:32:26.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Aloof in what way?
<2022-11-27T16:42:42.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I tend to not focus on things if they don't interest me
<2022-11-27T16:50:43.000Z> AnimeTradCath: frankly, even if it did annoy me, I'd enjoy having who constantly keeping some fire beneath me
<2022-11-27T17:50:25.000Z> AnimeTradCath: how neurotic are you?
<2022-11-27T18:06:20.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I often do that too, although for me it’s often more related to my goal-orientedness drawing my attention to whatever will help me achieve my goals.
<2022-11-27T18:07:49.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Well, I think I can do that. I don’t like having to nag, but I do tend to be a bit on the organized side so I could maybe help you ensure that you get done whatever needs to be done.
<2022-11-27T18:10:07.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I don’t really know how to describe the extent of my neuroticism. I just know that it’s really bad and can be really exhausting when I’m alone, but with the right companion I become more relaxed and can usually handle things that would otherwise make me have a neurotic breakdown.
<2022-11-27T18:10:47.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: So my neuroticism doesn’t seem to be inherent but rather an adverse effect of being too lonely.
<2022-11-27T18:13:38.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I think that for me, it’s a confidence issue caused by me being incomplete.
<2022-11-27T18:14:07.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: But as for you wanting to have some fire beneath you, do you mean like nagging?
<2022-11-27T18:15:22.000Z> AnimeTradCath: never to that extent
<2022-11-27T18:17:46.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: On an irrelevant note, are you in education, employment, or training? I’m not currently, although not entirely by choice. I want to be a seamstress, or at least have a seamstress skillset, but am havinh trouble finding a good teacher, and as such I can only make really simple things like pillow cases.
<2022-11-27T18:18:39.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I’d prefer to be a homemaker, with being able to make clothes being a practical skill rather than something I have to live off of.
<2022-11-27T18:21:32.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Currently I am in university
<2022-11-27T18:31:00.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I can also repair ripped seams and fallen buttons as well, although I’m not the greatest at the former due to inexperience, but it seems like each time I’ve done it I’ve learned a little more about it.
<2022-11-27T18:31:29.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Really? What degree are you going for?
<2022-11-27T18:31:53.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: And what exactly do you mean that you want to have some fire beneath you?
<2022-11-27T18:38:58.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Currently Liberal Arts, as my goal is to get my basics set then study History in Germany.
<2022-11-27T18:40:30.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I tend to get distracted from what I want to be doing, so someone who can be a constant reminder is great and I tend to need a reason to do things that is outside of myself as I am content with very little, even if it is towards my detriment
<2022-11-27T18:41:13.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Liberal arts doesn’t pay very well from what I’ve heard.
<2022-11-27T18:41:34.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I hear that people who pursue it put themselves in alot of debt.
<2022-11-27T18:42:06.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: And that they then can’t pay it off.
<2022-11-27T18:45:21.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I get free tuition by working at my University
<2022-11-27T18:46:14.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Wow, really?
<2022-11-27T18:46:20.000Z> AnimeTradCath: yes
<2022-11-27T18:46:35.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I didn’t know that free tuition is a thing.
<2022-11-27T18:47:12.000Z> AnimeTradCath: depends on the situation, but yes I work 40 hours a week so I don't have to be in debt
<2022-11-27T18:47:52.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I had an ex who said that he his job paid for like 15% of tuition but that rhe rest he had to pay for.
<2022-11-27T18:48:56.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Are you saving money to buy property or whatever?
<2022-11-27T18:51:44.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I'm saving as much money as I can 
<2022-11-27T18:52:30.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Good. It’s not good to think right in the moment like a negro.
<2022-11-27T18:52:43.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Planning ahead is based.
<2022-11-27T18:56:49.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I’ve been thinking about, once I get my driver’s license, getting a job at a fabric store and using that as a networking opportunity to find a sewing teacher. Then, if I find one, I’ll try to get good enough at making clothes that I can start my own sewing business and quit my wagie job.
<2022-11-27T18:58:03.000Z> AnimeTradCath: That's thinking outside of the box 
<2022-11-27T18:58:13.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: The sewing business, or even my wagie job, could contribute funds to set up the homestead ranch I want.
<2022-11-27T18:58:48.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Yeah, I tend to think outside the box alot.
<2022-11-27T18:59:59.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I think that my default at this point probably is to neglect thinking inside the box. I can hardly think within it because it’s so full of holes.
<2022-11-27T19:01:37.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Are all these things personality quirks of yours?
<2022-11-27T19:02:58.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I guess, although it makes alot of sense for one who is of the choleric temperament to think outside the box - we make goals and then do whatever we can to achieve them.
<2022-11-27T19:03:37.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I was also referring to some of your negative traits 
<2022-11-27T19:04:43.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I guess you could say it’s all quirks, but I feel like I’m a living stereotype and to call it a “quirk” would give the impression that it’s unique.
<2022-11-27T19:07:02.000Z> AnimeTradCath: What kind of stereotype would that be 
<2022-11-27T19:07:27.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Stereotypical nerd mostly.
<2022-11-27T19:11:32.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I got the thirst for knowledge of a nerd, even if these days it’s usually channeled into choleric goal-orientedness, I tend to care about what others think to a lesser degree than do most people just as nerds are often stereotyped as doing (after all, they’re usually more concerned with pursuing knowledge than fitting in), and they’re often stereotyped as being clumsy (which I am as well).
<2022-11-27T19:15:48.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I love doing research. I like sharing my knowledge with others, even if it’s rare for me to encounter someone who wants to listen.
<2022-11-27T19:21:27.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I very much couldn't tell 
<2022-11-27T19:22:27.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: And hence, I’m a nerd stereotype.
<2022-11-27T19:22:35.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: More or less.
<2022-11-27T19:23:33.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I was being sarcastic 
<2022-11-27T19:23:41.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I know.
<2022-11-27T19:24:55.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I’m a bit like Twilight Sparkle from season 1-3 of MLP G4, except more stubborn and goal-oriented.
<2022-11-27T19:26:41.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Sometimes people aren’t really so unique after all.
<2022-11-27T19:27:46.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I've quite literally never watched, nor encountered someone who watched MLP before 
<2022-11-27T19:32:22.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: MLP G4 is one of my favorite shows.
<2022-11-27T19:34:35.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: It’s sort of like Avatar: The Last Airbender but with more soap opera stuff rather than action.
<2022-11-27T19:37:25.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I haven't seen that either
<2022-11-27T19:37:31.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I don't watch tv
<2022-11-27T19:38:19.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Yeah, TV isn’t the best thing, I admit.
<2022-11-27T19:38:57.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: But I have no life and no IRL friends, and I gotta pass the time somehow.
<2022-11-27T19:41:17.000Z> AnimeTradCath: how come?
<2022-11-27T19:42:43.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I got a bit of a late start, and well part of my lack of friends is that I wasn’t really given a chance to begin with.
<2022-11-27T19:43:28.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: The other parts are me disliking normies and being unable to connect with them, and the fact that I’m a really despicable person.
<2022-11-27T19:43:32.000Z> AnimeTradCath: we're in a similar boat then
<2022-11-27T19:47:06.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Regarding the late start or disliking normies and being unable to connect with them?
<2022-11-27T19:47:18.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Or the part about being despicable?
<2022-11-27T19:47:32.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Or the part about not being given a chance to begin with?
<2022-11-27T19:48:19.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: You know, the chat here is alot nicer when you maximize it...
<2022-11-27T19:48:25.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Imo.
<2022-11-27T19:49:52.000Z> AnimeTradCath: yes
<2022-11-27T19:50:27.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: But anyway.
<2022-11-27T19:52:12.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Which particular similar boat are we in, or all of them?
<2022-11-27T20:02:04.000Z> AnimeTradCath: yes
<2022-11-27T20:02:18.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Ok.
<2022-11-27T20:03:41.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Well, then maybe you really are a freak like me and Eiregoat.
<2022-11-27T20:03:45.000Z> AnimeTradCath: although I am still adept in social situations
<2022-11-27T20:04:47.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I suck socially. It seems like my role should be to find information and compile it into a ELI5-ish form for others to use and share or whatever; something like a ghost writer is to an author.
<2022-11-27T20:06:45.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Or like, an interpreter in a way, giving info to someone else so that they can use their charisma (which I undoubtedly lack) to influence others in a positive way.
<2022-11-27T20:07:55.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I'm meant to remain behind the scenes because I shine when it comes to logic and research but am about as dark as an unlit basement socially.
<2022-11-27T20:09:27.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: It's a wonder that I'm not a lesbian.
<2022-11-27T20:09:45.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Or a reverse trap.
<2022-11-27T20:12:14.000Z> AnimeTradCath: doubtful
<2022-11-27T20:12:24.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: How so?
<2022-11-27T20:12:51.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I'm still discerning whether or not you're a fed
<2022-11-27T20:13:07.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: You wanna video chat with me and see for yourself?
<2022-11-27T20:14:07.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Video chat where?
<2022-11-27T20:14:29.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: We could use Jitsi considering that it doesn't require any downloads and is open source.
<2022-11-27T20:14:44.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I have no idea what that is
<2022-11-27T20:15:07.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jitsi
<2022-11-27T20:15:23.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: https://meet.jit.si/
<2022-11-27T20:15:48.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi
<2022-11-27T20:17:01.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: https://meet.jit.si/MyCatLikesHugs
<2022-11-27T20:17:33.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: That last link is the link to a Jitsi video chat.
<2022-11-27T20:18:19.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Unfortunately for you I have to be leaving soon. I have to pick up my Mom from the airport 
<2022-11-27T20:18:30.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Ok.
<2022-11-27T20:24:07.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Well, any time you want proof that I'm actually real, just tell me and I can set up a video chat to show you. In Jistsi, you can disable both voice and video on your end if you want.
<2022-11-27T20:29:10.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: For you, is university just a way to formally learn about history or like do you plan on doing anything with it? Is it really worth the effort in the long-term to learn about an interesting topic at a university when you could just learn about it via manual research on the internet?
<2022-11-27T20:29:40.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: And internet only requires an internet bill.
<2022-11-27T20:30:10.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I'm impression is that you're a bit clingy 
<2022-11-27T20:30:50.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I don't know what I am. Just bored and curious.
<2022-11-27T20:31:08.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Am I clingy? I don't know.
<2022-11-27T20:31:23.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Is clingy a good or bad thing anyway?
<2022-11-27T20:31:46.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I've always been one to ask tons of questions.
<2022-11-27T20:33:11.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: What do you define as clingy? Don't different people have different definitions of it?
<2022-11-27T20:52:21.000Z> AnimeTradCath: The Humanities are of utmost importance to study as they most greatly affect both culture and Man.
<2022-11-27T20:52:48.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Being an Historian is most likely my end goal 
<2022-11-27T20:53:59.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Maybe you can debunk the lies that folks tell about the Catholic Church and have people listen to you because of the fallacious idea that being an "authority" makes one more worth listening to on such things.
<2022-11-27T20:54:05.000Z> AnimeTradCath: As of yet I would say clingy in a neutral sense
<2022-11-27T20:54:49.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Given the correct circumstances I wouldn't mind a woman being clingy towards me
<2022-11-27T20:54:55.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: You sound like me, making neutral comments that are easily interpreted as non-neutral. Huh.
<2022-11-27T20:57:02.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I'm not sure I even understand what clinginess is though. I feel like it's subjective.
<2022-11-27T21:03:16.000Z> AnimeTradCath: It most certainly is 
<2022-11-27T21:03:41.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Ok, then in your opinion, what does it mean to be clingy?
<2022-11-27T21:04:38.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I have no ability to answer, as I cannot say 
<2022-11-27T21:13:11.000Z> AnimeTradCath: As of yet I am not bothered by your billion questions 
<2022-11-27T21:13:49.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I'd might be clingy. I mean if a guy says to give him space I guess I'll try to accommodate him, although it'd be difficult for me to know how to do so if he doesn't specify for how long. I like to have specific directions, and honestly I kinda need them. My curious and impatient self does best when I'm able to understand things.
<2022-11-27T21:16:06.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Clingy is entirely contextual.
<2022-11-27T21:20:06.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I don't like being left to wonder what to do or if I'm doing things right. 
<2022-11-27T21:30:29.000Z> AnimeTradCath: As of yet you're entirely fine
<2022-11-27T21:30:52.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I'm very open when it comes to what bothers me
<2022-11-27T21:34:13.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Good. I dislike when people aren't.
<2022-11-27T21:43:19.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: So, how late of a start did you get?
<2022-11-27T21:44:20.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I only got my driving permit like last February.
<2022-11-27T21:44:34.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I got a road test on December 20th.
<2022-11-27T21:49:13.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I was rather introverted growing up, still am to a degree
<2022-11-27T21:54:54.000Z> AnimeTradCath: So I never really had a lot of friends growing up, if at all
<2022-11-27T22:00:32.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I was the opposite: I started out as an extrovert and then became introverted due to people always never giving me a chance. I just gave up and turned introverted.
<2022-11-27T22:00:56.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I had no friends at all in my grade in every grade I was in.
<2022-11-27T22:10:58.000Z> AnimeTradCath: You are quite extroverted 
<2022-11-27T22:13:16.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Technically yes, but I tend to act more like an introvert due to my having gotten used to people not wanting to have anything to do with me.
<2022-11-27T22:13:27.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I'm an extrovert in an introverted shell.
<2022-11-27T22:29:35.000Z> AnimeTradCath: You're rather bubbly when you want to be?
<2022-11-27T22:33:37.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: More like when I feel able to be.
<2022-11-27T22:33:52.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I can be talkative even if I'm really blackpilled.
<2022-11-27T22:34:30.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: On my own, I'm more cynical than bubbly.
<2022-11-27T22:35:08.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Talkative? I couldn't tell!
<2022-11-27T22:35:27.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I know you've figured that out.
<2022-11-27T22:35:57.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I just mean that I'm not a bubbly person all by myself. I'm just prone to talkativeness no matter how happy or miserable I am.
<2022-11-27T22:37:20.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Bubbly with in the right context with the correct Man?
<2022-11-27T22:37:33.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: That's more plausible.
<2022-11-27T22:37:47.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I got really happy and confident in my last relationship.
<2022-11-27T22:39:02.000Z> AnimeTradCath: 👍
<2022-11-27T22:39:42.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I'm guessing that you're currently single?
<2022-11-27T22:39:48.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Yeah.
<2022-11-27T22:40:07.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Duely noted 
<2022-11-27T22:40:32.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I was making wisecracks like crazy.
<2022-11-27T22:40:52.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Saying things about people that I shouldn't have just for the sake of making a clever comment.
<2022-11-27T22:41:19.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: The dude's car broke down and he was all nervous, while I was just smiling because I felt that everything would be ok.
<2022-11-27T22:41:36.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: And what do ya know, it was.
<2022-11-27T22:42:25.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Some people just aren't meant to be alone. Some of us are a team player to the extent that being single is like being a fish out of water. You know?
<2022-11-27T22:43:37.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I would agree, but I can't truly say as I have never been in a relationship 
<2022-11-27T22:44:07.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Wow, I never thought that a guy would reach 25 and still be single.
<2022-11-27T22:44:23.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: As in always having been single.
<2022-11-27T22:44:32.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Unless he's fat...
<2022-11-27T22:44:39.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Yes
<2022-11-27T22:45:01.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I've never been fat in my life 
<2022-11-27T22:45:30.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I've been told that I am rather attractive 
<2022-11-27T22:45:32.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Being fat sucks.
<2022-11-27T22:46:17.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: It doesn't just look ugly, it also doesn't feel very great even as a smallfat.
<2022-11-27T22:46:30.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: How tall are you?
<2022-11-27T22:47:26.000Z> AnimeTradCath: 5'2"
<2022-11-27T22:47:33.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Ah, I see.
<2022-11-27T22:47:58.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I don't see many women with guys who are shorter than them.
<2022-11-27T22:48:07.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I was seeing what your reaction would be 
<2022-11-27T22:48:20.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I'm 6 foot 
<2022-11-27T22:48:51.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: It's a lie that most women demand a guy of 6' or taller, but most average height women do like a guy who is a little taller.
<2022-11-27T22:48:59.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Short girls like short guys.
<2022-11-27T22:49:17.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I have a female friend who is 5'2 and she got with a guy who is like 5'6. Perfect match.
<2022-11-27T22:49:41.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Short guys just need a short girl.
<2022-11-27T22:50:55.000Z> AnimeTradCath: How tall are you?
<2022-11-27T22:51:05.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: About 5'4.
<2022-11-27T22:51:29.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Short...
<2022-11-27T22:52:11.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: 6 foot for a mostly Bavarian dude? I could see it for Freisian folks but isn't the average male height in and around the Alps something like 5'8 or 5'9?
<2022-11-27T22:53:41.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Yes, my whole family is tall
<2022-11-27T22:53:52.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: If you're really short, there's nothing to be ashamed of.
<2022-11-27T22:54:24.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: It's nothing to be ashamed of any more than being White.
<2022-11-27T22:55:21.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Nor would I be. Me being 6 foot is me being truthful 
<2022-11-27T22:56:36.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Like most women, I'm fine with average height or taller. I largely don't have very high standards for male looks, as long as a guy looks like a guy and doesn't look like a faggot.
<2022-11-27T22:57:18.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: He does have to be White though.
<2022-11-27T22:57:42.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Well you're in luck
<2022-11-27T22:57:56.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Soyboys look disgusting.
<2022-11-27T22:58:39.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: And they are disgusting too.
<2022-11-27T22:59:17.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Spineless cowards is what they are
<2022-11-27T23:01:47.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: *Resists temptation to make fun of them*
<2022-11-27T23:02:24.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: It sucks that making fun isn't the most Catholic thing to do because it provides so many opportunities to be witty.
<2022-11-27T23:02:50.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Oh well.
<2022-11-27T23:04:35.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I'm guessing that you're currently looking for a relationship?
<2022-11-27T23:04:55.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Yeah.
<2022-11-27T23:05:29.000Z> AnimeTradCath: How convenient 
<2022-11-27T23:06:27.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I figured that you are as well given how interested you seem to be in me,
<2022-11-27T23:08:16.000Z> AnimeTradCath: It is awfully rare for a woman, as defiant as you are, to seek me out. Even if it was due to a recommendation 
<2022-11-27T23:09:07.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Well yeah, women don't usually seek out guys.
<2022-11-27T23:09:40.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I'm really lonely, so I seek out people like me.
<2022-11-27T23:10:24.000Z> AnimeTradCath: It's current year plus 11 sweetie, women can do whatever they want 
<2022-11-27T23:10:49.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Unfortunately, yes.
<2022-11-27T23:11:56.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I'm kinda like a jew tbh.
<2022-11-27T23:12:00.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I'm an opportunist.
<2022-11-27T23:12:24.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Maybe it's because I actually am 1/4 jew.
<2022-11-27T23:15:39.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: But like the Venerable Jacob Appelbaum, who became a Catholic priest named Francis-something and was so distressed by knowing that his rabbi father viewed him as an apostate that he had seizures whenever he was reminded of it, I know that having jewish ancestry doesn't make anyone a jew. Genetically, Ashkenazi jews are just an ethnic group of Southeastern Europeans with big noses who think that they're better than other Whites.
<2022-11-27T23:15:50.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Ethiopian jews are obviously just blacks.
<2022-11-27T23:16:19.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: jews aren't even 1 ethnicity but a whole bunch of them that merely share a common faith and culture.
<2022-11-27T23:16:36.000Z> AnimeTradCath: ...
<2022-11-27T23:16:43.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: No seriously.
<2022-11-27T23:17:01.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I can prove it.
<2022-11-27T23:17:55.000Z> AnimeTradCath: 1/4 jewish...
<2022-11-27T23:18:33.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Yeah, my grandfather was an Ashkenazi jew.
<2022-11-27T23:18:48.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I don't identify with that side because I look Dutch and reject the Satanic culture.
<2022-11-27T23:19:04.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I view it as just the Greco-Persian-Slavic mutt that it is.
<2022-11-27T23:19:15.000Z> AnimeTradCath: The Perfidious jew, no matter how much European blood they have stolen will always be a jew
<2022-11-27T23:19:48.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I adhere to the Nuremberg Laws
<2022-11-27T23:19:48.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: https://academic.oup.com/gbe/article/8/4/1132/2574015
<2022-11-27T23:20:03.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5478715/
<2022-11-27T23:20:12.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Well in that case, then I'm definitely White.
<2022-11-27T23:20:12.000Z> AnimeTradCath: If you have children with a European, they'll be full blooded 
<2022-11-27T23:20:40.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Even halfbreed jews aren't classified as jews if they're not religiously jewish according to the Nuremberg laws.
<2022-11-27T23:21:26.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Ah, Libermann.
<2022-11-27T23:21:38.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Dang it, I confused with another guy. I rarely remember names.
<2022-11-27T23:21:55.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I got the first name right: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Libermann
<2022-11-27T23:22:46.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: And as you can see in those studies, Ashkenazi jews are just a mix of Greek, Persian, and Slavic.
<2022-11-27T23:22:59.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Although they are said to have some Italian in them as well.
<2022-11-27T23:23:18.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Probably from the Venetian Black Sea colonies or something like that.
<2022-11-27T23:24:08.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: jews genetically are often more genetically similar to the people of where their group came from than to other jews.
<2022-11-27T23:24:42.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: That's a big indicator that they've accepted converts historically.
<2022-11-27T23:25:22.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Like Israeli jews are more similar to Palestinians than they are to Sephardic jews for instance.
<2022-11-27T23:26:16.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I'm well aware of jewish gene-stealing
<2022-11-27T23:26:37.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: What unites them is faith, not blood. They're just too arrogant to admit that they genetically are indeed goyim.
<2022-11-27T23:27:24.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: What's the difference between an ordinary Greek-Persian-Slav mutt and a Ashkenazi jew? Definitely not genetics.
<2022-11-27T23:27:41.000Z> AnimeTradCath: No, they are a wholly separate people in both blood and spirit
<2022-11-27T23:28:01.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I really don't think that they merely stole genetics. It seems to be a lie that they spread in order to hide their true origins.
<2022-11-27T23:28:32.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: And tbh, if jews originated in the Mediterranean, then technically they're no different from other Mediterranean people genetically.
<2022-11-27T23:28:56.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: So even an Israeli jew whose ancestors never left the Levant is White.
<2022-11-27T23:30:07.000Z> AnimeTradCath: They've become a corrupted, Perfidious lot of devils
<2022-11-27T23:30:08.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: They isolated via culture and may have broken off as their own people because of that. Something similar appears to have happened between the Ashkenazi and Sephardic jews, with the former having split from the latter and formed their own distinct group.
<2022-11-27T23:30:36.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Actually, that kinda happened with the Amish.
<2022-11-27T23:31:34.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: No one denies that they're White, and yet they're genetically different enough that the vaxx contains a chemical which doesn't affect them but that does affect non-Amish Whites.
<2022-11-27T23:31:36.000Z> AnimeTradCath: The Amish are just German Anabaptists
<2022-11-27T23:33:02.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: The thing is, if a population breaks away from its parent stock then by mere isolation they end up becoming genetically different to a degree, even if not necessarily a significant one. DNA shows that this happened with the jews and even the Amish.
<2022-11-27T23:33:58.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Hence, I identify my jewish quarter as mixed Greek, Persian, Slavic, and likely also Italian.
<2022-11-27T23:35:54.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Probably where you're neuroticism comes from 
<2022-11-27T23:37:32.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: My mom is pretty neurotic too though, and the jewish in me is from my dad's side. Although very little is known about her dad's ethnic background beyond him definitely being White.
<2022-11-27T23:38:06.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: He could've been jewish for all I know.
<2022-11-27T23:38:48.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: He was likely English or German just based on where my family is from.
<2022-11-27T23:39:07.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Lotsa English and German blood up in the Northeast.
<2022-11-27T23:39:37.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Moreso English, rather than German 
<2022-11-27T23:40:20.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: There's a bit of German folks up there, it's just that they're probably mostly mixed with English and maybe some French.
<2022-11-27T23:40:51.000Z> AnimeTradCath: The English are German 
<2022-11-27T23:40:57.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: And French.
<2022-11-27T23:41:08.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: English are French-Germanic mutts.
<2022-11-27T23:41:22.000Z> AnimeTradCath: No, tge Normans were Vikings
<2022-11-27T23:41:47.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: But the Vikings came from Scandinavia while the Normans came from France.
<2022-11-27T23:42:33.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: The English language is itself a mix of French and German.
<2022-11-27T23:43:14.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I've been told that I look Dutch (although I'm obviously a little midget-y for a Dutch woman), I don't buy into the jewish faith or culture, and honestly I don't even remember my jewish grandfather all that well.
<2022-11-27T23:45:20.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I am a goy. I don't care if my dad thinks of me as being a traitor or mean or whatever for talking down about jews. I will talk down about devil worshippers. I will condemn evil.
<2022-11-27T23:45:52.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: All of my ancestry is from Europe and the Mediterranean, therefor I am White.
<2022-11-27T23:47:39.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I can't see  Ashkenazi jews as not being a variety of White when their DNA is undeniably White, and I don't mean like being mixed race, but literally lacking commonality with Israeli jews, instead being almost identical to that of Greeks, Persians, and Slavs.
<2022-11-27T23:48:50.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: They were converts to Judaism, probably at around the 1st century or so, and as is the arrogance of the Pharisees, they decided that because of their conversion they are superior to everyone else.
<2022-11-27T23:55:52.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Vikings pillaged northern France and settled there when they became Christian 
<2022-11-27T23:56:08.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: They must've mixed with the locals.
<2022-11-27T23:56:39.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: So not really quite vikings anymore.
<2022-11-27T23:57:28.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: It's kinda like how mestizos aren't White despite having some White ancestry.
<2022-11-27T23:58:44.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: The difference is, of course, that with the folks of France being White, and with the vikings being White, the mixing created a new White ethnicity rather than a new race.
<2022-11-28T00:03:20.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: The vikings had some really nice livestock too. Nice hardy ponies.
<2022-11-28T00:03:43.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: A triple-purpose sheep breed...
<2022-11-28T00:28:10.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Certainly one thing that you've certainly shown is your propensity for talking 
<2022-11-28T00:30:02.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: https://files.catbox.moe/i7z6b3.jpeg
<2022-11-28T00:32:06.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: ^ I'd post this directly but when I tried it wouldn't display properly at least on my end.
<2022-11-28T00:36:53.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Words are my jam. Talking, singing, deciphering typing styles, writing essays on my own accord...
<2022-11-28T00:38:52.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I don't decipher typing styles except when I have a reason to though, like the elaborate one-woman trolling operation I did as a teenager. Haha, I was so devious and I'm proud of it.
<2022-11-28T00:53:13.000Z> AnimeTradCath: You like talking to whoever?
<2022-11-28T00:53:35.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Eh, no because I hate normies.
<2022-11-28T00:54:08.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Talking to them tends to be like talking to a dog turd. There's no point in it.
<2022-11-28T00:55:34.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Are you a pureblood?
<2022-11-28T00:57:11.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Technically my Father is English descent American 
<2022-11-28T00:58:20.000Z> AnimeTradCath: You certainly don't have a difficult time taking with me 
<2022-11-28T00:58:52.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Ah, so you're not fully German after all. I figured that you meant Germany German.
<2022-11-28T00:59:12.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Btw, pureblood means someone who didn't take a Covid vaccine.
<2022-11-28T00:59:44.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Yes, I am fully German and I'm unvaccinated 
<2022-11-28T00:59:47.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Well yes, talking to auth center folks like nat socs and fascist is easier on me than talking to normies.
<2022-11-28T00:59:55.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Based.
<2022-11-28T01:00:23.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I was already an anti-GMO antivaxxer by the time the vaccine came out so I never took it.
<2022-11-28T01:00:42.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I also never took it because I knew that Covid was imaginary.
<2022-11-28T01:01:34.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I thought the same 
<2022-11-28T01:01:42.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Based.
<2022-11-28T01:03:54.000Z> AnimeTradCath: You looking to be a Mother?
<2022-11-28T01:04:32.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Yeah, you can't be a rancher without a ton of kids to be your farm hands unless you're as rich as Bill Gates.
<2022-11-28T01:05:15.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Or unless you want to hire people in exchange for something other than money. But that sounds less appealing than just having your kids help out.
<2022-11-28T01:06:33.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Honestly though, what really made me want to have kids is the fact that we need based White purebloods to breed like rabbits, raise their kids to be based, and so on throughout the generations until there's enough of them to take back at least a county or state from the jews.
<2022-11-28T01:06:35.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Lots of kids?
<2022-11-28T01:06:55.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Yeah, like maybe 8 or 9 if not more.
<2022-11-28T01:07:52.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Ideally, the multigenerational takeover would result in the conquering of entire countries.
<2022-11-28T01:08:41.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Of course, to achieve a takeover, Whites gotta be self-sufficient so that jews can't just destroy the supply lines in order to kill us.
<2022-11-28T01:09:34.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Just trying someone to help you out with having children?
<2022-11-28T01:10:53.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Based Whites gotta have lots of guns and ammo, and practical skills like blacksmithing, woodworking, sewing, leatherworking, weaponsmithing, and so on in addition to producing our own food and and supplies as much as possible. Plus, a farm is the best place to raise a kid as it fosters values like hard work.
<2022-11-28T01:11:04.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Rather than technology and conveniences.
<2022-11-28T01:12:55.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I'm not simply looking for a guy to have kids with. I'm looking for a guy to be my ultimate teammate - someone who I can rely on and be closer to more so than any other. If I was just looking to have kids, I'd have alot more options. I don't wanna be stuck with someone I'm not compatible with, and I especially don't want to have kids with them. It wouldn't be good for me nor any children I'd have.
<2022-11-28T01:14:11.000Z> AnimeTradCath: In this regard temperamental compatibility would be paramount 
<2022-11-28T01:14:46.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Yeah, and also religion, politics, and anything else that has to do with faith and morals.
<2022-11-28T01:14:54.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Plus, philosophy on how kids should be raised.
<2022-11-28T01:15:50.000Z> AnimeTradCath: They shall be taught that blinding political rivals is a humane practice that should be brought back
<2022-11-28T01:16:28.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Well ideally political rivals would be converted to the right side.
<2022-11-28T01:17:06.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Nonetheless, I mean things like "Shall the kids have access to TV?", "What diet shall the kids be on?" and stuff like that.
<2022-11-28T01:17:36.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: The latter is a big one.
<2022-11-28T01:18:28.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I was making a joke 
<2022-11-28T01:19:00.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I've seen a guy or 2 who'd say something like that unironically. It can be hard to tell.
<2022-11-28T01:20:02.000Z> AnimeTradCath: But yes such important questions are necessary to resolve 
<2022-11-28T01:20:33.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Alot of men want to have their kids stuffed full of carbs and fiber, whereas I want my kids to be on a low-fiber, animal-based diet. Ideally the carnivore diet.
<2022-11-28T01:22:15.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Fiber is terrible for the human gut, as has been noted by nutrition researchers who lack funding from the grain industry. Carbs make people fat, and honestly plants are actually loaded with chemicals to poison anything that tries to eat them because if they were defenseless from predation then entire ecosystems would collapse.
<2022-11-28T01:25:57.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: The Inuit, Mongols, Plains People, and Arabs not only survived on a little-to-no-plant diet but even outright thrived on it. In fact, the most formidable warriors in history were often from groups who ate little or no plants: the Mongols conquered the majority of the known world; the Arabs conquered the Middle East and North Africa.
<2022-11-28T01:26:54.000Z> AnimeTradCath: The Romans conquered Europe on a mostly grain diet
<2022-11-28T01:27:52.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Not so, actually. They consumed alot of seafood, and alot of their conquering was basically "My gods are the same gods as your gods, so let us rule you" and "Do what you want as long as you let us rule over you".
<2022-11-28T01:28:13.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: They also had a rather high-fat diet due to all the olive oil they consumed.
<2022-11-28T01:35:28.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: That's not really the same as savages who wander into a civilized area and start destroying the place with ease.
<2022-11-28T01:35:43.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: And violently taking over.
<2022-11-28T01:36:54.000Z> AnimeTradCath: So what is the most important thing that you're looking for?
<2022-11-28T01:38:21.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Probably logical-ness and being eager to know and live by the truth as supported by facts, whether uncovered by man alone or revealed to us by divine revelation.
<2022-11-28T01:39:23.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: At my core, that's what I'm about.
<2022-11-28T01:39:37.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: And that's what I need in a potential husband.
<2022-11-28T01:40:12.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: This includes all truths, be they moral and anything else.
<2022-11-28T01:42:51.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Even the really inconvenient ones.
<2022-11-28T01:45:26.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I'm certainly this 
<2022-11-28T01:46:12.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I have libraries of redpills across multiple subjects.
<2022-11-28T01:46:46.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: If you're really eager to know the truth, I can pull some from my link list from you.
<2022-11-28T01:48:21.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: About the diet thing, these 2 links are a start: https://nutritionwithjudy.com/the-darkside-of-plants-anti-nutrients/ and https://www.gutsense.org/fiber-menace/what-is-so-menacing-about-fiber.html
<2022-11-28T01:48:48.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: The more obscure a redpill, the more likely I am to be interested in it.
<2022-11-28T01:49:09.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I like redpills in general, but the obscure ones are particularly fascinating.
<2022-11-28T01:50:18.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Also, I'm not sure that I could get with a guy who is ok with mutilating his own son, or anyone's son for the matter.
<2022-11-28T01:50:31.000Z> AnimeTradCath: That's something that's true 
<2022-11-28T01:51:07.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I'm not sure what you mean with that last thing?
<2022-11-28T01:51:25.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Circumcision is unironically male genital mutilation.
<2022-11-28T01:52:16.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Agreed
<2022-11-28T01:53:06.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Also, no vaccines.
<2022-11-28T01:53:15.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I will not give my kid any vaccines. Ever. End of story.
<2022-11-28T01:53:27.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: And I won't let their father do it either.
<2022-11-28T01:54:56.000Z> AnimeTradCath: So I couldn't get a vaccine?
<2022-11-28T01:55:10.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: You couldn't give the kids a vaccine.
<2022-11-28T01:55:33.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I'd rather my husband not get vaccines though. I don't want him to be poisoned either.
<2022-11-28T01:56:31.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: And rather than being stuffed full of pharmaceuticals, I demand that my kids not be given any pharmaceuticals whatsoever unless it's proven that there is no dietary, herbal, or otherwise non-pharmaceutical treatment that works for it.
<2022-11-28T01:57:14.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I also wouldn't want my husband to be taking such poison either. We need White purebloods who are healthy and not dependent on the jews.
<2022-11-28T01:59:04.000Z> AnimeTradCath: That's a bit neurotic, don't you think?
<2022-11-28T01:59:36.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: To not want my kids to be given pharmaceuticals unless it's proven that they actually need pharmaceuticals?
<2022-11-28T02:00:24.000Z> AnimeTradCath: No, the extent that you have laid out and the tone of your concern 
<2022-11-28T02:00:47.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I can't get with a guy who wants to poison my kids.
<2022-11-28T02:00:51.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I just can't do it.
<2022-11-28T02:01:54.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Do you know how many people get sick and even die each year because of pharmaceuticals?
<2022-11-28T02:02:52.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Everything a person needs to become and stay healthy can be found in nature. Pharmaceuticals are made to make people sick so that they can be drugged up even more, and so on until the person dies.
<2022-11-28T02:03:23.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: They don't treat the cause of problems, they just mask the symptoms.
<2022-11-28T02:04:39.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Thus, the cause remains and may even worsen. That may be good for the population control agenda but it's not good for people.
<2022-11-28T02:06:20.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I wholeheartedly agree
<2022-11-28T02:07:00.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: It is a father's duty to protect his children, not poison them.
<2022-11-28T02:07:33.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Of course, in order to do so he should take care of himself both to set a good example and to ensure that he's in good enough condition to do so.
<2022-11-28T02:09:40.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: The jews want us fat and sick. They want us to be GMO cyborgs that eat bugs, GMO veggies, and live in a pod. They don't want us to be healthy physically or mentally. They hate all the goyim but they especially want to wipe out the White race. We can't fight them if we're not aware of their shtick and/or if we're not in good enough condition to fight them.
<2022-11-28T02:10:27.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Hence, they tell us that veggies are healthier than meat, and that pharmaceuticals rather than an animal-based diet are the way to go.
<2022-11-28T02:11:30.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: They tell us that herbal medicine isn't "proven to be effective" even though it has been proven to be effective over the course of thousands of years.
<2022-11-28T02:13:29.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Most health issues, believe it or not, are actually caused by diet and exposure to poisons. Shampoo, conditioner, bodywashes, many hand soaps, laundry detergent, you name it - the list goes on - they put poison in it.
<2022-11-28T02:14:19.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: That's why people should go for organic foods and skin/hair care products whenever possible.
<2022-11-28T02:14:44.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: As well as household goods like cleaners, laundry care products, and more.
<2022-11-28T02:21:40.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: But luckily, I have a book of DIY cleaning recipes to avoid most of those poisons.
<2022-11-28T02:22:46.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: As for skin/hair care product poisons, those too are easy to avoid if you know what to look for. 
<2022-11-28T02:25:38.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Well I'll certainly leave you you to tend to such duties
<2022-11-28T02:26:15.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I have no objection to that.
<2022-11-28T02:26:22.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I want to attend those duties.
<2022-11-28T02:27:39.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I have no issues relinquishes those to you 
<2022-11-28T02:31:23.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Did you know that glyphosate causes cancer?
<2022-11-28T02:32:43.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Do you think that genetic modification is literal blasphemy?
<2022-11-28T02:49:20.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: What do you think of cats?
<2022-11-28T03:04:08.000Z> AnimeTradCath: If you're referring to genetic modification at the cellular level than it of itself, it isn't blasphemy. That doesn't mean that it shouldn't be done.
<2022-11-28T03:04:30.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I lived with cats all my life. I do also love dogs just as much
<2022-11-28T03:05:02.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Is it not blasphemy to sabotage the very fiber of God's creation?
<2022-11-28T03:05:34.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: It's basically saying "We know better than God - the way He made things isn't good enough".
<2022-11-28T03:08:54.000Z> AnimeTradCath: If that is the intention behind it, then yes it's blasphemous.
<2022-11-28T03:09:10.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Usually that is the intention behind it.
<2022-11-28T03:09:33.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I love cats but I'm not a fan of dogs except as a work animal.
<2022-11-28T03:23:50.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Dogs are great for pulling sleds, guarding livestock/property, retrieving things, etc. depending on breed and training, but as companions I rather dislike them as they're usually hyperactive, lacking in a sense of personal space, and they tend to not be very hygienic as they like disgusting things such as consuming feces.
<2022-11-28T03:28:25.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I've lived with both dogs and cats for most of my life.
<2022-11-28T03:33:47.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Dogs are wonderful companions!
<2022-11-28T03:37:12.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I've only lived with cats 
<2022-11-28T03:39:47.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I'm not a fan of dogs' slobbery-ness or the fact that they jump on me, especially when they can't retract their claws.
<2022-11-28T03:43:17.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: When they act more like cats, minding their own business and not jumping up on me or otherwise misbehaving, I don't have as much of an issue with them.
<2022-11-28T03:47:43.000Z> AnimeTradCath: That's like trying to have a Man act like a woman 
<2022-11-28T03:49:22.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Far from it.
<2022-11-28T03:50:47.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I don't wanna be slobbered on or jumped on, especially by an animal that eats poop and/or rolls in carcasses when given the chance to dos o. 
<2022-11-28T03:51:13.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: And especially by an animal that, when it jumps on me, scratches me due to being unable to retract its claws.
<2022-11-28T03:51:42.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I also hate when they bark for no good reason.
<2022-11-28T03:55:39.000Z> AnimeTradCath: What wonderful creatures I know!
<2022-11-28T03:56:01.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Birds and horses are cool though.
<2022-11-28T03:59:36.000Z> AnimeTradCath: What is the most important thing that you want out of a relationship?
<2022-11-28T04:00:58.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Someone to make me complete, who I can be closer to than anyone else. The one person who I can agree with where it matters most (politics, religion, lifestyle) even if the rest of the world is against me. In other words, the ultimate ally.
<2022-11-28T04:01:37.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: A person who wants to be my teammate in making the world a better place and taking down evil.
<2022-11-28T04:13:53.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Lifestyle like, I mean I can't be with some dude who demands city life or whatever when I personally belong out in the country and I feel called to be a homesteader.
<2022-11-28T04:14:14.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Also, agreeing on how to raise kids.
<2022-11-28T04:16:26.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I'd more or less say the same thing
<2022-11-28T04:16:41.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: If a guy wants me to have my kids be vegan or eat a diet of Doritos and Mountain Dew, I can't do that.
<2022-11-28T04:16:50.000Z> AnimeTradCath: damn
<2022-11-28T04:16:59.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I thought my charm would've changed your mind
<2022-11-28T04:17:39.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Also, a guy who looks presentable.
<2022-11-28T04:19:04.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Like looking like a dude, not being overweight or obese, not doing roids.
<2022-11-28T04:19:19.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Roids cause manboobs and make a guy look rather unnatural.
<2022-11-28T04:28:11.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: It's attractive for men to be flat-chested and not have multiple chins.
<2022-11-28T04:32:55.000Z> AnimeTradCath: The only fat that I have is my love handles
<2022-11-28T04:37:25.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I'm fairly fit myself
<2022-11-28T04:37:44.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Being fit is based.
<2022-11-28T04:37:56.000Z> AnimeTradCath: but, I'd have to show you rather than merely talking about it
<2022-11-28T04:39:17.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I don’t mind if you show me. As a woman I’m not turned on by looks, although I can definitely be turned off from a guy by looks.
<2022-11-28T04:40:51.000Z> AnimeTradCath: The only thing is that I don't send pictures through here
<2022-11-28T04:41:02.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Which is not a bad idea tbh.
<2022-11-28T04:42:15.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: The lack of end to end encryption does make it potentially privacy-invading.
<2022-11-28T04:43:33.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Particularly when combined with the fact that it’d be stored rather than a relaying type protocol.
<2022-11-28T04:44:14.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Not that relaying protocols can’t include storage features.
<2022-11-28T04:44:32.000Z> AnimeTradCath: That's one of the reasons why I use element
<2022-11-28T04:45:09.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Yeah, Matrix is a pretty decent protocol overall.
<2022-11-28T04:48:52.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I’d like to see a Discord clome but with end to end encyption. That would be megabased.
<2022-11-28T04:50:09.000Z> AnimeTradCath: you know of any other end to end?
<2022-11-28T04:50:44.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: XMPP has end-to-end encryption capabilities but it also has less features than Matrix.
<2022-11-28T04:51:12.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Also, I think you may need a client that supports the encryption capabilities.
<2022-11-28T04:51:40.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I use brave
<2022-11-28T04:52:49.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I favor Firefox or Ungoogled Chromium on PC.
<2022-11-28T04:53:10.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I just use Safari on my phone.
<2022-11-28T04:53:59.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: There may be a browser-based XMPP client.
<2022-11-28T04:54:15.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I’m not sure tbh.
<2022-11-28T04:57:20.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I have Mumble but it’s primarily for voice chat and while it does have text/image posting capabilities, it also doesn’t have end-to-end encryption.
<2022-11-28T04:58:13.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I have an Android
<2022-11-28T04:59:00.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I’m tempted to switch to Android but my dad hasn’t set up the vm I need to do backup my documents and contacts on my phone.
<2022-11-28T04:59:21.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: He’s gotta do some kind of thing to make it easier to access in the LAN apparently.
<2022-11-28T05:00:45.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: It’d be pretty based to have root capabilities on my own phone. I like having the power to do what I want with my phone.
<2022-11-28T05:01:41.000Z> AnimeTradCath: We could text
<2022-11-28T05:04:35.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Have you read the pre Vatican II catechism?
<2022-11-28T05:05:27.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Not fully 
<2022-11-28T05:08:08.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: What part did you get to?
<2022-11-28T05:08:23.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Or like did you just read random parts of it?
<2022-11-28T05:10:32.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Random bits of the Baltimore Catechism 
<2022-11-28T05:11:48.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: You should read the whole thing. I recommend reading the Baltimore Catechism No. 3 Fr. Connell’s Confraternity Edition.
<2022-11-28T05:15:52.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Ultra based read.
<2022-11-28T05:16:13.000Z> AnimeTradCath: It's definitely on my list 
<2022-11-28T05:17:23.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: There are different versions of it though, strangely enough.
<2022-11-28T05:18:07.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I saw one that said that lust causes self love. Like what the heck? Who believes that? Horniness doesn’t cause that haha, pride does.
<2022-11-28T05:20:41.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: In the decades leading up to Vatican II, (((modernists))) would slip in things that aren’t true into the catechism order to mislead people. I saw one that promoted a few such things.
<2022-11-28T05:21:03.000Z> AnimeTradCath: That isn't certainly an odd thing 
<2022-11-28T05:21:41.000Z> AnimeTradCath: What do you use to chat?
<2022-11-28T05:21:57.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Well, one would think that a catechism with such a specific name would not have different versions under the same name.
<2022-11-28T05:22:14.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Tbh, usually this or Mumble.
<2022-11-28T05:24:02.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I will try to look into what other options are out there and see if there’s a way to talk with end-to-end encryption.
<2022-11-28T05:26:45.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Because I am interested in sending you a picture 
<2022-11-28T05:28:33.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Fine by me.
<2022-11-28T05:32:08.000Z> AnimeTradCath: There's a few recent pictures of me that are quite nice 
<2022-11-28T05:34:02.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I have a nice-ish one too, although due to being shaded my hair looks darker than it really is. That happens alot.
<2022-11-28T05:34:25.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: My hair is really weird.
<2022-11-28T05:35:14.000Z> AnimeTradCath: How so?
<2022-11-28T05:35:51.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Depending on what soap I use and whether or not I use vinegar on it, and when I use vinegar on it if/when I do, my hair may be a rusty blonde color, a golden blonde color, or a dull blonde color.
<2022-11-28T05:36:30.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: And of course being greasy makes it look darker than it is.
<2022-11-28T05:38:38.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I’ve used a soap or 2 that makes it look like a cross between golden blonde and a more rust-like color.
<2022-11-28T05:39:22.000Z> AnimeTradCath: How extravagant 
<2022-11-28T05:39:59.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Mine is quite wavy and dark brown 
<2022-11-28T05:40:46.000Z> AnimeTradCath: If I grow it out it kind of naturally looks like what John Wilkes Boothe had
<2022-11-28T05:41:00.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I don’t fully understand why my choice in hair care products and methods changes the tint of my hair.
<2022-11-28T05:41:05.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Plus it's filled with a smattering of gray
<2022-11-28T05:41:42.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Probably changing the ph is why it changes 
<2022-11-28T05:42:01.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Soap is basic, and vinegar is acidic 
<2022-11-28T05:45:17.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Then acidic stuff darkens my hair while alkalis lighten it, because when I don’t use vinegar then my hair gets lighter, while if I do use vinegar then it gets darker, and if I don’t use vinegar for long enough then it gets really dull looking in color, and if I use vinegar after going long enough without using soap then it turns golden blonde. It seems like my hair, when at optimal health, tends to be a golden to rusty-gold color.
<2022-11-28T05:46:54.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Harsher soaps make it a lighter color than gentler soaps, even with the same vinegar usage status.
<2022-11-28T05:47:37.000Z> AnimeTradCath: You've peaked my interest in how you look 
<2022-11-28T05:52:20.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: As a result of this confusion, I don’t completely understand what shade of blonde I naturally am. I’m guessing a golden-rusty color considering that when I use a soap that’s specifically formulated for hair, after pouring vinegar on it, that’s what color it ends up being. That soap also rinses quite well.
<2022-11-28T05:53:35.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I'm still curious as to how attractive you are 
<2022-11-28T05:53:59.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I admit it. I’m attractive.
<2022-11-28T05:54:26.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I didn’t want to, but if you ever see me then the cat’ll be out of the bag anyway.
<2022-11-28T05:55:10.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I'll believe it when I see you 
<2022-11-28T05:56:29.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Makes sense.
<2022-11-28T05:56:53.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Alot of ugly whores think that they’re pretty.
<2022-11-28T05:57:09.000Z> AnimeTradCath: The same will be fir you as well 
<2022-11-28T05:57:17.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Being attractive can actually be a burden though, believe it or not.
<2022-11-28T05:57:38.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Their egos are incredibly inflated 
<2022-11-28T05:58:00.000Z> AnimeTradCath: For women perhaps 
<2022-11-28T05:58:09.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I had my ego beaten out of me years ago.
<2022-11-28T05:58:36.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Not physically, but emotionally.
<2022-11-28T05:59:37.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: And yeah, female entitlement is an issue. Usually it’s the most ugly and not-all-that-special women with the biggest egos, I think.
<2022-11-28T05:59:38.000Z> AnimeTradCath: How so?
<2022-11-28T05:59:54.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I was bullied mercilessly.
<2022-11-28T06:00:28.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: No friends at all, the literal outcast, bullied by the entire grade.
<2022-11-28T06:01:55.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: That doesn’t really foster a very high image of oneself.
<2022-11-28T06:02:15.000Z> AnimeTradCath: That's understandable 
<2022-11-28T06:03:33.000Z> AnimeTradCath: What are your thoughts on intimacy?
<2022-11-28T06:03:52.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Like the morality of fornication?
<2022-11-28T06:05:12.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I'm talking about smaller intimate engagements with another person 
<2022-11-28T06:05:29.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Like hugging?
<2022-11-28T06:07:32.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Among other similar things 
<2022-11-28T06:07:40.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Well, apparently one is not supposed to hug or kiss or otherwise have any physical contact with their suitor/suitress unless they have gone through the rite of engagement due to, up to that point, there being no certainty of the couple remaining together.
<2022-11-28T06:08:24.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: And those behaviors causing bonding, which would make a breakup feel worse than it otherwise would.
<2022-11-28T06:08:46.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Yes, but eventually such things will happen 
<2022-11-28T06:09:29.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Yes, but apparently they’re supposed to happen after the rite of betrothal because only after that is there reason to believe that a couple will remain together.
<2022-11-28T06:10:48.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I understand that it can be hard to resist the temptation to hug/kiss/cuddle someone you’re courting… I know what it feels like to crave that closeness with another person.
<2022-11-28T06:11:14.000Z> AnimeTradCath: That may be, but do you enjoy such things 
<2022-11-28T06:11:52.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Hugging I have enjoyed in the past, which I feel bad for because the guy really just led me on.
<2022-11-28T06:12:42.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I should’ve not hugged him or anything like that. Maybe the breakup wouldn’t have been as painful for me. I’ll never really know.
<2022-11-28T06:13:20.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Unless I get to heaven, then I can ask God, although I’m not sure that’ll happen. I doubt my worthiness of heaven.
<2022-11-28T06:14:41.000Z> AnimeTradCath: >Potential attachment issues>Got it 
<2022-11-28T06:15:40.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Honestly, I’m not experienced with physical intimacy in relationships. Only 2 of the relationships I’ve been in ever included it.
<2022-11-28T06:17:28.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: One wasn’t even all that intimate because the guy was just a horndog who acted like he was having an orgasm whenever I kissed him, never wanting to do anything with me other than kiss, not even get to know me.
<2022-11-28T06:18:29.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: The other, well, I just wanted to know if I could even really enjoy physical intimacy and then it kind of snowballed from there.
<2022-11-28T06:19:18.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: It’s not that I can’t attach, it’s that when I do attach it’s really hard so I have to be careful about it or else I’ll be very hurt.
<2022-11-28T06:21:15.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Like if I attach to a guy, I do it big time. A really intense attachment.
<2022-11-28T06:22:28.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: So it’s more being cautious about what I’m getting myself into. I guess you could compare it to an alcoholic having an easier time not drinking at all than only having the occasional sip.
<2022-11-28T06:22:41.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Ya know?
<2022-11-28T06:28:25.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I learned alot about myself from that huggy relationship… how one can get so depressed that depression becomes their new normal, what it means for a person to be incomplete… Sometimes relationships are how you learn the most about yourself.
<2022-11-28T06:30:43.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: So in a way, I’m kind of glad for the experience because it answered a question or 2 that I had about myself and it made me better understand what kind of person I am, what I can be, what I need, and what I’m meant to do.
<2022-11-28T06:40:09.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: It’s not that I refuse physical intimacy, but that I’m inclined to wait until after the rite of betrothal to engage in it. That seems to be a part of traditional courtship in contrast to dating.
<2022-11-28T06:43:05.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: In the rite of betrothal, which occurs after the couple gets engaged, a couple promises that they will indeed marry each other, so there’s more certainty that they will in fact remain together, and hence hugging and cuddling and whatnot may begin at that point to foster bonding in preparation for marriage.
<2022-11-28T06:52:44.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: You might wanna listen to this audio clip about the courtship process (yes, it talks about how a guy should be looking for a girl to submit to him, but*: https://youtube.com/watch?v=r1V4w38v2mI
<2022-11-28T06:55:21.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: * Pope Pius XII said: Again, this subjection of wife to husband in its degree and manner may vary according to the different conditions of persons, place and time. In fact, if the husband neglect his duty, it falls to the wife to take his place in directing the family. But the structure of the family and its fundamental law, established and confirmed by God, must always and everywhere be maintained intact . (Source: https://www.vatican.va/content/pius-xi/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-xi_enc_19301231_casti-connubii.html)
<2022-11-28T06:59:03.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: In that same papal encyclical, he also said: This subjection, however, does not deny or take away the liberty which fully belongs to the woman both in view of her dignity as a human person, and in view of her most noble office as wife and mother and companion; nor does it bid her obey her husband's every request if not in harmony with right reason or with the dignity due to wife; nor, in fine, does it imply that the wife should be put on a level with those persons who in law are called minors, to whom it is not customary to allow free exercise of their rights on account of their lack of mature judgment, or of their ignorance of human affairs. But it forbids that exaggerated liberty which cares not for the good of the family; it forbids that in this body which is the family, the heart be separated from the head to the great detriment of the whole body and the proximate danger of ruin. For if the man is the head, the woman is the heart, and as he occupies the chief place in ruling, so she may and ought to claim for herself the chief place in love.
<2022-11-28T07:01:22.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: In other words, by default a man should look for a woman to submit to him, but he should not look for a woman to submit to him as would a minor as she would not be bound to obey him like an RC vehicle obeys whoever wields its controller, and that depending on circumstance the wife may not be bound to obey her husband at allZ
<2022-11-28T07:03:31.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Pope Leo XIII said something similar:  Secondly, the mutual duties of husband and wife have been defined, and their several rights accurately established. They are bound, namely, to have such feelings for one another as to cherish always very great mutual love, to be ever faithful to their marriage vow, and to give one another an unfailing and unselfish help. The husband is the chief of the family and the head of the wife. The woman, because she is flesh of his flesh, and bone of his bone, must be subject to her husband and obey him; not, indeed, as a servant, but as a companion, so that her obedience shall be wanting in neither honor nor dignity. Since the husband represents Christ, and since the wife represents the Church, let there always be, both in him who commands and in her who obeys, a heaven-born love guiding both in their respective duties. For "the husband is the head of the wife; as Christ is the head of the Church. . . Therefore, as the Church is subject to Christ, so also let wives be to their husbands in all things."(18) (Source: https://www.vatican.va/content/leo-xiii/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_l-xiii_enc_10021880_arcanum.html)
<2022-11-28T07:18:23.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: How many more years of university do you have left to go?
<2022-11-28T11:04:24.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I fell asleep last night 
<2022-11-28T13:37:02.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Frankly I have no issues with such engagements, as making sure that you are going to bond with the person that you'll marry and not someone who won't commit is the best thing that should be done 
<2022-11-28T14:46:07.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: The rite of betrothal does not happen at engagement though. It’s something that, in order to do, you have to talk to a priest and ask for it after you get engaged.
<2022-11-28T15:43:38.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I'm well aware, although rather personally inexperienced with such important matters
<2022-11-28T15:52:15.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I’ve never experienced it either.
<2022-11-28T15:52:50.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I’ve had a guy or 2 talk about interest in getting engaged but never following through with it.
<2022-11-28T15:54:00.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: What kind of job do you have? I know you said it’s at a university, but doing what?
<2022-11-28T15:58:18.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I work in one of the dining halls, and if everything goes accordingly I should have a few years left.
<2022-11-28T16:00:46.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Do you know how much your intended career path pays?
<2022-11-28T16:07:33.000Z> AnimeTradCath: 60 to 80k
<2022-11-28T16:07:53.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: And you're intending on becoming a history professor?
<2022-11-28T16:08:17.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Or a Historian
<2022-11-28T16:10:14.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I'm guessing that your job doesn't permit you to work from home?
<2022-11-28T16:12:42.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: And how much have you saved up so far?
<2022-11-28T16:14:53.000Z> AnimeTradCath: That's all contextual, but probably not.
<2022-11-28T16:15:22.000Z> AnimeTradCath: A few thousands so far, I got a small inheritance which helped as well 
<2022-11-28T16:17:26.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: My dad is borderline rich from network engineering.
<2022-11-28T16:18:45.000Z> AnimeTradCath: My family is mainly working class
<2022-11-28T16:19:32.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I think that mine is largely working class too, although I do have a relative who is rich enough to own 2 homes.
<2022-11-28T16:23:05.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I come purely from peasants 
<2022-11-28T16:25:01.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Do you want to be a homesteader? And if so, then how do you plan on obtaining a good property for it?
<2022-11-28T16:30:29.000Z> AnimeTradCath: If I were to stay in America, my father has a large property out in northern Arizona that I'll inherit from him.
<2022-11-28T16:30:57.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: How much is it worth, and how old is your father?
<2022-11-28T16:32:26.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Do you have any siblings?
<2022-11-28T16:32:34.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I have 2 older sisters.
<2022-11-28T16:49:31.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I have an older brother and sister 
<2022-11-28T16:50:07.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Probably 40k if I remember correctly, he's currently building it up with the intention of passing it on to me.
<2022-11-28T16:50:59.000Z> AnimeTradCath: The only real issue is that I also want to move to Germany with my German family and eventually inherit my Opa's house that he built
<2022-11-28T16:52:04.000Z> AnimeTradCath: My father is in his 60's
<2022-11-28T19:30:17.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Do you have any other plans besides homesteading?
<2022-11-28T21:51:24.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Mostly homesteading.
<2022-11-28T21:52:28.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Mine is in his late 40s.
<2022-11-28T21:54:44.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Possibly also a sewing business on the side.
<2022-11-28T21:57:40.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I want to move to North Idaho because it's somewhat humid and has nice snowy winters, it's infamous for being a sedevacantist stonghold, and also because it's Idaho.
<2022-11-28T22:02:38.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: The appealing thing about Idaho is: lenient homeschooling laws, lenient gun laws, high White population, relatively lenient laws regarding the sale of eggs from a flock of less than 300 hens, lenient laws regarding the sale of relatively lenient raw milk law (even if it does require that all dairy animals used in the production of raw milk for sale get tested annually for brucellosis and tuberculosis), the fact that weed is illegal there if it has any detectable THC, the fact that tranny surgery is banned in Idaho, the fact that it allows for 3 different excuses for parents to not vaccinate their children, the fact that it has a pretty good stand-your-ground law, the fact that it's one of the least densely populated states in the country, relatively lenient laws regarding the sale of eggs from a flock of less than 300 hens, lenient laws regarding the sale of relatively lenient raw milk law (even if it does require that all dairy animals used in the production of raw milk for sale get tested annually for brucellosis and tuberculosis), the fact that weed is illegal there if it has any detectable THC, the fact that tranny surgery is banned in Idaho, the fact that it allows for 3 different excuses for parents to not vaccinate their children, the fact that it has a pretty good stand-your-ground law, the fact that it's one of the least densely populated states in the country, the fact that it's a stronghold of the dissident right and has been one for a while now, and in fact a county in North Idaho is conservative enough that its sheriff refused to enforce mask mandates.
<2022-11-28T22:09:33.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Quite Ironic for a woman whose naturally extroverted to want to get away from everyone
<2022-11-28T22:10:10.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I want to be a homesteader away from normies. Of course low population density appeals to me.
<2022-11-28T22:10:38.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I'm conditionally extroverted: I like people, but I can only tolerate normies so much.
<2022-11-28T22:16:19.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Also, the soil ph in North Idaho is perfect for a wide variety of crops.
<2022-11-28T22:16:39.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: It's the perfect place for a homestead.
<2022-11-28T22:17:52.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Plus, because it's in the US, those who live there can use free speech against the jews. Funny how free speech began as a weapon against the Church but nowadays is sometimes used against the jews.
<2022-11-28T22:24:29.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: In Germany, merely questioning the holocaust will get you behind bars.
<2022-11-28T22:26:50.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I'm well aware
<2022-11-28T22:27:08.000Z> AnimeTradCath: those are quite excellent points that you raise
<2022-11-28T22:28:30.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: North Idaho is the best place to start taking back the West from the jews.
<2022-11-28T22:29:32.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I have sources too for these claims if you wanna see.
<2022-11-28T22:29:51.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I'll take your word
<2022-11-28T22:30:21.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I don't think that you'd simply be pulling things out of thin air
<2022-11-28T22:35:02.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Also, in Germany I think that guns might be illegal.
<2022-11-28T22:35:25.000Z> AnimeTradCath: They're not, just heavily regulated
<2022-11-28T22:35:59.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Definitely more than Idaho, that's for sure.
<2022-11-28T22:36:14.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Idaho is a Constitutional Carry state.
<2022-11-28T22:36:54.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: In Idaho, you can assume that everybody outside of Boise, and maybe Moscow, has a gun, and especially so with the further north you go.
<2022-11-28T22:38:59.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Being alone together with a wife in the middle of no where does so quite attractuve
<2022-11-28T22:39:05.000Z> AnimeTradCath: attractive*
<2022-11-28T22:39:25.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Idaho definitely has middle of nowhere areas... especially up in the mountains.
<2022-11-28T22:39:57.000Z> AnimeTradCath: ample opportunity to get to know each other much better
<2022-11-28T22:40:57.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: North Idaho isn't quite middle of nowhere though. It has easy access to towns and cities like Coeur d'Alene and Spokane, but it also is overwhelmingly rural.
<2022-11-28T22:42:14.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: In fact, the CMRI - the largest sedevacantist congregation in the world - began in North Idaho, and that parish still remains there to this day.
<2022-11-28T22:42:54.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: It's still sedevacantist.
<2022-11-28T22:43:12.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I've met the priest there before as he has come down to Denver.
<2022-11-28T22:43:36.000Z> AnimeTradCath: how cool
<2022-11-28T22:47:45.000Z> AnimeTradCath: what made you want to become a homesteader?
<2022-11-28T22:48:03.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Wanting to foil the Rothschilds' plans.
<2022-11-28T22:48:19.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Also, the fact that as someone who grew up in a rural area, I prefer living in a rural area.
<2022-11-28T22:49:13.000Z> AnimeTradCath: understandable
<2022-11-28T22:49:29.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Plus, it gives kids something better to do than watch TV and play with Chinese plastic.
<2022-11-28T22:49:52.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: There's not much time for TV when you gotta do ranch work.
<2022-11-28T22:50:12.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I wouldn't own a tv regardless
<2022-11-28T22:50:38.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I'd might, so that I can play my based documentaries.
<2022-11-28T22:50:57.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Or display any other based enough content.
<2022-11-28T22:53:19.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: North Idaho also has some local small utilities companies, like a small ISP and small power company, permitting folks to boycott megacorporations in favor of supporting the local economy.
<2022-11-28T22:55:13.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Is there a way to work remotely as a historian or history professor?
<2022-11-28T22:55:22.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Like on a consistent basis?
<2022-11-28T22:57:23.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I think that, in this regard homesteading would be the paramount decision 
<2022-11-28T23:02:32.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Well yeah, but it costs shekels to set up a homestead.
<2022-11-28T23:03:38.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: If you inherit property then you can sell it and have funds for a mortgage.
<2022-11-28T23:04:06.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: If you have a job, you can have a separate reserve for buying animals, seeds, farm tools, etc.
<2022-11-28T23:05:00.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: $40,000 is a really great start for getting the funds for down payment.
<2022-11-28T23:06:35.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Arizona is full of non-Whites. Without irrigation (which the jews would love to take away from us), you can only grow the most drought tolerant crops.
<2022-11-28T23:07:46.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: With a semi-humid climate like that of North Idaho, you can grow quite an array of different crops and get great yields, especially with a soil ph of around 6 or 7, which North Idaho also has.
<2022-11-28T23:08:25.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Plus, if that property is being fixed up by your father, that further raises its value.
<2022-11-28T23:09:30.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Denver is too dry already. Arizona is even worse.
<2022-11-28T23:09:39.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: And it's way too hot.
<2022-11-28T23:10:57.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Arizona has stricter homeschooling laws than Idaho as well.
<2022-11-28T23:11:06.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Also, is homeschooling even legal in Germany?
<2022-11-28T23:11:46.000Z> AnimeTradCath: No
<2022-11-28T23:12:08.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Do you really want your kids to be legally mandated to go to the government indoctrination center?
<2022-11-28T23:12:22.000Z> AnimeTradCath: But it seems that my charm has worked to a degree
<2022-11-28T23:13:08.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Eh, I'm kind of undecided.
<2022-11-28T23:13:26.000Z> AnimeTradCath: are you?
<2022-11-28T23:13:58.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Yeah, I can't just make a decision overnight.
<2022-11-28T23:14:42.000Z> AnimeTradCath: While true, doesn't mean that I can't tease you 
<2022-11-28T23:14:59.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I never said whether or not you could.
<2022-11-28T23:16:16.000Z> AnimeTradCath: It's also sometimes good to lighten the mood, even when discussing such weighty topics like marriage
<2022-11-28T23:16:36.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I feel like my moods are kind of solid.
<2022-11-28T23:16:52.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: The way I interpret things depends on my mood.
<2022-11-28T23:17:04.000Z> AnimeTradCath: You're a woman
<2022-11-28T23:17:32.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Yeah, but I mean like I often either miss or ignore jokes when I'm not in a joke-ish mood.
<2022-11-28T23:18:00.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Eiregoat made a bestiality joke once and I totally missed it until atfter I replied to it haha.
<2022-11-28T23:18:52.000Z> AnimeTradCath: That happens to me sometimes where something comes to me well after the conversation, or joke has occured.
<2022-11-28T23:27:07.000Z> AnimeTradCath: What gets you in a happy mood?
<2022-11-28T23:27:28.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I don't think I'm ever truly happy tbh.
<2022-11-28T23:27:51.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: So for a shallow, temporary happiness, things that distract me from how I'm actually feeling.
<2022-11-28T23:28:24.000Z> AnimeTradCath: What about content?
<2022-11-28T23:29:09.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Like finding something interesting in research, watching a good TV show or video, listening to a good prank call...
<2022-11-28T23:30:22.000Z> AnimeTradCath: What about when you're with someone?
<2022-11-28T23:31:22.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: If I like a guy enough, I'll like doing almost anything that's not sinful with him just because I get to be with him.
<2022-11-28T23:32:33.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: If you mean like date ideas, a simple walk in the park chatting is fine. It doesn't have to be anything special. I don't do dinner dates as I don't really eat things that aren't made with accordance to my picky standards.
<2022-11-28T23:33:02.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Heck, my cat can even tag along as I have a harness for her.
<2022-11-28T23:33:56.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Picky if certainly one way of describing things 
<2022-11-28T23:34:55.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I only eat certified organic stuff for one thing, and that alone instantly rules out every resteraunt in the US as far as I know.
<2022-11-28T23:34:57.000Z> AnimeTradCath: How good of a cook are you?
<2022-11-28T23:35:15.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I don't know, it depends on what you like.
<2022-11-28T23:36:07.000Z> AnimeTradCath: What is your favorite thing to make?
<2022-11-28T23:36:27.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I like my cooking, but it's also very unconventional. I don't use seasonings, besides maybe salt every now and then, which alot of people aren't inclined to like. But personally, I like being able to enjoy food for how it really tastes rather than covering it up with a bunch of unncessary stuff.
<2022-11-28T23:36:57.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I'm not sure. Beef shanks with cream cheese? Cheeseburger soup?
<2022-11-28T23:38:31.000Z> AnimeTradCath: We may have to adjust things to a more European sensibility 
<2022-11-28T23:38:56.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: In hot countries, they use more spices than in cold countries.
<2022-11-28T23:39:09.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I got Finnish in me.
<2022-11-28T23:39:30.000Z> AnimeTradCath: That's not what I am referring to 
<2022-11-28T23:39:52.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Plus spice is meant to accompany the flavor, not be the flavor 
<2022-11-28T23:40:13.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: That's what they say, but it ultimately ends up being the flavor.
<2022-11-28T23:40:44.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Europeans perfected the culinary arts long ago. non-Whites, excluding Orientals, don't understand this 
<2022-11-28T23:41:29.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: When you stop eating spices, even just a small amount tastes like alot. Even just a little bit of sugar after you go on a fat-based diet can be overwhelming. Believe me, just one sip of vanilla kefir made me gag. Bleh!
<2022-11-28T23:42:52.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Sugar, Salt, and Acid enhance flavor. Spice changes
<2022-11-28T23:43:45.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Acid can make for delicious flavors... if it's from lactic acid bacteria fermenting milk.
<2022-11-28T23:43:53.000Z> AnimeTradCath: It also sounds like your taste buds are as neurotic as you are
<2022-11-28T23:44:27.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: No, they just overcame their addiction to unnecessary additives long ago.
<2022-11-28T23:45:01.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: When you first quit added flavorings, everything tastes really bland, and then you begin to discover flavors that you had no idea were even there.
<2022-11-28T23:46:31.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Adding a little Thyme to a mushroom sauce for a Jägerschnitzel makes it better 
<2022-11-28T23:46:54.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: When I eat a raw steak, it tastes sweet to me. Beef liver tastes especially sweet to me, like a steak dipped in sugar. Plain yogurt has an array of delicious flavors depending on what brand and fat content of it that you buy.
<2022-11-28T23:47:14.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Most people think that's bland because they're addicted to additives.
<2022-11-28T23:47:44.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Do you like cheese?
<2022-11-28T23:47:58.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I don't eat processed food.
<2022-11-28T23:48:07.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Yes
<2022-11-28T23:48:16.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: How about beef?
<2022-11-28T23:50:42.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: You'd might like cheeseburger soup. It's meaty, creamy, cheesey, and also filling due to the high fat content. 
<2022-11-28T23:51:34.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I'm not picky when it comes to food.
<2022-11-28T23:51:47.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Also, cream cheese is underrated. It's not just for bagels. It can be used to hold meatloaf together, or to thicken soup.
<2022-11-28T23:52:06.000Z> AnimeTradCath: But a European culinary sensibility will need to be necessary 
<2022-11-28T23:52:19.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Bagels are trash
<2022-11-28T23:52:40.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I know, and yet people think that's all cream cheese can do besides cheesecake.
<2022-11-28T23:53:03.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Cream cheese is so much more than something to combine with carby trash.
<2022-11-28T23:53:13.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: It makes beef shanks complete.
<2022-11-28T23:53:29.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: (Beef shanks are a pretty lean cut)
<2022-11-28T23:53:51.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I don't cook in any particular cuisine, although I have made pemmican before.
<2022-11-28T23:55:18.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I'm will have to teach you some parts of German cuisine, as that's my favorite.
<2022-11-28T23:55:56.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Isn't there a German version of ghee?
<2022-11-28T23:56:00.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I forget the name.
<2022-11-28T23:56:16.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Maybe I can make that some day.
<2022-11-28T23:56:32.000Z> AnimeTradCath: No, but ghee is just clarified butter
<2022-11-28T23:56:43.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Ghee is a particular kind of clarified butter.
<2022-11-28T23:56:58.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: It's cooked in a certain way beyond just the clarifying part.
<2022-11-28T23:57:18.000Z> AnimeTradCath: You melt butter and separate out the milk solids so what remains can store for a lot longer
<2022-11-28T23:58:00.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: True ghee is also heated in order to cause carmelization, producing a nutty flavor. Without that it'd just be ordinary clarified butter.
<2022-11-28T23:58:22.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I would love to make European cheeses. Feta just like the Greeks make would be delicious.
<2022-11-28T23:58:38.000Z> AnimeTradCath: While I enjoy beef quite a bit, I prefer pork the most 
<2022-11-28T23:58:52.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I like pork too, but quality pork is hard to come by around here.
<2022-11-28T23:58:58.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Most cheeses require rennet
<2022-11-28T23:59:39.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I know, which you can get from the rumen of the same calf/lamb/kid that made your cow/sheep/goat produce milk in the first place.
<2022-11-29T00:00:47.000Z> AnimeTradCath: You can make ricotta without it.
<2022-11-29T00:01:02.000Z> AnimeTradCath: You like cabbage?
<2022-11-29T00:01:07.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Technically, without rennet it's not really a cheese.
<2022-11-29T00:01:32.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: When fed to an animal and then I get to eat that animal, sure.
<2022-11-29T00:02:33.000Z> AnimeTradCath: While I have no issues eating meat, a vegetable isn't going to kill you 
<2022-11-29T00:03:07.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Actually, you'd be surprised.
<2022-11-29T00:03:42.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Grains and veggies cause autoimmune issues in those prone to them.
<2022-11-29T00:03:49.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Even fruits can do that.
<2022-11-29T00:04:36.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Fiber consumption can actually lead to a colonoscopy.
<2022-11-29T00:05:41.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Man is by his nature omnivorous 
<2022-11-29T00:06:19.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: There's a difference between an omnivore and a facultative carnivore.
<2022-11-29T00:06:23.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Plus I really enjoy Sauerkraut 
<2022-11-29T00:06:56.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Facultative carnivores thrive on a carnivorous diet but survive, not thrive, on a non-carnivorous one.
<2022-11-29T00:07:58.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Wolves are an example of a facultative carnivore as they thrive on a carnivorous diet but can survive on berries if prey is unavailable, or even if they're just too lazy to hunt.
<2022-11-29T00:09:03.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Yet Man has for 10,000 plus years domesticated both plants and animals to consume 
<2022-11-29T00:10:25.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Our digestive anatomy is almost identical to that of a wolf. Multiple groups have absolutely thrived on a plant-less or low-plant diet, and in fact a plant-less diet was not only historically was prescribed for health problems, but actually is coming back because people who have health issues that won't resolve with anything else end up curing their health issues by removing plants from their diet.
<2022-11-29T00:11:09.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Man also tends to do drugs, masturbate to pornography, and do other things that are not good for them.
<2022-11-29T00:12:14.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Plants, to varying degrees have been consumed by Man for nutrition 
<2022-11-29T00:12:39.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: And yet, they actually have very little nutritional value.
<2022-11-29T00:13:30.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Many nutrients either cannot be found in plants at all, or cannot be found in plants in sufficient amounts to meet the nutritional needs of man.
<2022-11-29T00:13:40.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Don't confuse the ill affects of modernity for that of something else 
<2022-11-29T00:13:40.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Medieval lords often were paid in meat.
<2022-11-29T00:14:40.000Z> AnimeTradCath: They also consumed a fair deal of grains as well
<2022-11-29T00:14:55.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: https://www.meatrition.com/is-it-possible
<2022-11-29T00:16:20.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Cultures which traditionally ate no plants did not suffer from obesity, autoimmune issues, or oral health issues as do Whites and civilized Asians.
<2022-11-29T00:16:34.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I think that you're arguing against a position that I'm not claiming 
<2022-11-29T00:16:59.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: In fact, look at the Mongols vs their Chinese neighbors: the former were very healthy, while the latter was often overweight
<2022-11-29T00:17:11.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Both are relatively closely related, both being Asians and all.
<2022-11-29T00:17:38.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: The Mongols subsisted on meat and milk, whereas the Chinese consumed a rice-based diet.
<2022-11-29T00:18:13.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: As the dentist Weston Price noted, grains and processed sugar are particularly detrimental to health.
<2022-11-29T00:19:36.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: People can survive on vegetables, fruits, and grains, but they will not thrive. they get fat, they often end up with oral health issues, some end up with autoimmune issues, and they often get the beetus.
<2022-11-29T00:19:50.000Z> AnimeTradCath: We're making Beer and Sauerkraut, as well as growing vegetables for consumption 
<2022-11-29T00:19:54.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: None of those diseases were known among the Inuit until they switched to a Western diet.
<2022-11-29T00:20:18.000Z> AnimeTradCath: You do know that you can eat both meat and vegetables 
<2022-11-29T00:20:33.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: You can, but it wouldn't be healthy.
<2022-11-29T00:20:46.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Cake won't kill many people immediately but that doesn't make it healthy.
<2022-11-29T00:21:19.000Z> AnimeTradCath: The Inuit are adapted for the Artic environment, not a Temperate one.
<2022-11-29T00:21:58.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: So...? The Plains People lost height when forced onto a Western diet from the bison herds being killed.
<2022-11-29T00:22:01.000Z> AnimeTradCath: You do know there is this wonderful concept that the Church promotes called, moderation.
<2022-11-29T00:22:32.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Moderation is overrated.
<2022-11-29T00:23:23.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Food is first and foremost for nourishment, not pleasure. To use it for pleasure above nourishing the body is a perversion of gluttony, similar to how promiscuity is a perversion of lust.
<2022-11-29T00:23:43.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/06590a.htm
<2022-11-29T00:24:48.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/06590a.htm
<2022-11-29T00:24:53.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Why would I switch from a European diet to a different one, because a conquered people who is racially alien from me who never invented the wheel has ill effects from eating a predominant grain diet. 
<2022-11-29T00:25:15.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: But Whites too have ill effects from it.
<2022-11-29T00:25:47.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Many of us get fat from it. Some end up having their body destroy itself due to non-nutritive amino acids in common plant foods.
<2022-11-29T00:25:54.000Z> AnimeTradCath: The Lord gave us taste buds so that we can also enjoy what we're eating 
<2022-11-29T00:26:39.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I never said that to enjoy food is a sin, but that to eat for enjoyment rather than to nourish the body is gluttonous.
<2022-11-29T00:27:38.000Z> AnimeTradCath: The American diet of highly processed grains and simple sugars is the abnormality to why Whites are unhealthy.
<2022-11-29T00:27:54.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: But Whites were unhealthy before that too.
<2022-11-29T00:28:57.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Maybe not to the same degree as when consuming primarily processes grains and sugar, but Whites and Asians were the only races to which obesity and diabetes were known, with the possible exceptions of certain American groups that also ate grain.
<2022-11-29T00:29:14.000Z> AnimeTradCath: That and how the industrialized agricultural and food industry produces the crap that jews expect us to eat
<2022-11-29T00:29:34.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Yeah, like more fruits and veggies instead of more meat and dairy.
<2022-11-29T00:30:09.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: You haven't noticed how much they shove "plants are good for you, so eat your fruits/veggies" down peoples' throat?
<2022-11-29T00:30:51.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Whites conquered the World, and each other on a diet of Meat and vegetables.
<2022-11-29T00:31:11.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: All these claims that fruits and veggies are good for you are not substantiated by any scientific data: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/DietaryDiary/overrated-foods-fruits-vegetables
<2022-11-29T00:32:05.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I have noticed, but your idealism blinds you into making meat vs vegetables
<2022-11-29T00:32:48.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Whites did that for a couple of reasons: first of all, before the 1970s, White people ate alot of fat. They slathered their food with tons of butter and lard. Second, Whites were smart enough to.
<2022-11-29T00:33:20.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: It's not idealism, but the accumulation of years worth of nutrition research.
<2022-11-29T00:33:42.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I've been studying this stuff since I was like 14-ish.
<2022-11-29T00:33:43.000Z> AnimeTradCath: You're arguing with a point that I am not making 
<2022-11-29T00:34:01.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Then what point are you making?
<2022-11-29T00:35:57.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: So many health problems are caused by the consumption of plants, even among Whites. For different ethnic groups only do well on different diets, would make them a different species. Diet is universal among species.
<2022-11-29T00:37:50.000Z> AnimeTradCath: That meat and plants can be eaten in moderation. To what degree depends on the situation. While grains are plants, having them as your staple food leads to unintended consequences. 
<2022-11-29T00:37:54.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Now tolerance to a particular stressor, that is something that may vary among races.
<2022-11-29T00:38:49.000Z> AnimeTradCath: My German barbarian ancestors thrived on a predominant Meat diet, while eating vegetables and drinking copious amounts of beer
<2022-11-29T00:38:57.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Grains are one of the worst things a person can eat because, as the seed of plants, they are particularly loaded with plant defense chemicals. Plants need to have their seeds intact in order to reproduce, so they are extra protective of them.
<2022-11-29T00:39:26.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Actually, barbarians ate alcohol from mare's milk. Grain was something that barbarians didn't usually have without trading.
<2022-11-29T00:39:55.000Z> AnimeTradCath: We're not really conversing here, we're just talking past each other.
<2022-11-29T00:40:05.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: They didn't thrive on vegetables, but did survive on vegetables.
<2022-11-29T00:41:06.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I don't understand. How are we talking past each other? What I see is you conflating "doing better than people are nowadays" with "top condition".
<2022-11-29T00:46:27.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Your more concerned with trying to push your point to win the argument than to engage in the argument
<2022-11-29T00:46:31.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: And btw, beer is an invention of Catholic monks. Barbarian Germans did not have access to it.
<2022-11-29T00:46:38.000Z> AnimeTradCath: you're*
<2022-11-29T00:46:47.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Beer has been brewed since Sumer
<2022-11-29T00:47:02.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Maybe ales, but not beer.
<2022-11-29T00:47:09.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Ale is beer
<2022-11-29T00:47:22.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Beer comes in two varieties, Ales and Lagers
<2022-11-29T00:48:19.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: The stuff with hops in it is an invention of Catholic monks.
<2022-11-29T00:48:28.000Z> AnimeTradCath: You're also conflating eating a single vegetable with pure vegan diet, something that I am diametrically opposed to.
<2022-11-29T00:48:46.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: And no, my goal is not to push a point but to bust myths.
<2022-11-29T00:49:09.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: No, I'm talking about plant consumption in general, not just a vegan diet.
<2022-11-29T00:49:40.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Did you know that like 98% of kidney stones are made of calcium oxalate?
<2022-11-29T00:50:44.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Oxalates bind to calcium, preventing a plant-eater's body from being able to use any calcium it binds to. They're found in common vegetables, like spinach for instance. In fact, spinach is really high in oxalates.
<2022-11-29T00:50:47.000Z> AnimeTradCath: You're arguing just as a vegan would, just from the other end of the spectrum.
<2022-11-29T00:51:27.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Most kidney stones are the result of soda consumption 
<2022-11-29T00:52:02.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Ruminants, like cattle, goats, and sheep, can degrade oxalates in an organ called the rumen. Monogastric species (aka animals that don't have multiple stomaches), even specialized herbivores, like horses, cannot.
<2022-11-29T00:52:28.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Again you're speaking past me and not engaging with my point
<2022-11-29T00:53:19.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Also Germans have been brewing Beer well before Christ came to Europe
<2022-11-29T00:53:41.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: No I'm not.
<2022-11-29T00:54:07.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Well remember, some Germans immigrated to the Roman Empire.
<2022-11-29T00:54:16.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Those ones weren't barbarians.
<2022-11-29T00:54:26.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Others, like the Lombards, were.
<2022-11-29T00:54:33.000Z> AnimeTradCath: A Barbarian is a Non Roman/Greek
<2022-11-29T00:54:55.000Z> AnimeTradCath: And my people have been brewing beer before Rome existed
<2022-11-29T00:54:58.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: And more specifically, the savages of Europe.
<2022-11-29T00:55:17.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Some German groups decided to live as Romans.
<2022-11-29T00:55:26.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: The ones that didn't were the barbarians.
<2022-11-29T00:55:40.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: https://www.kidney.org/atoz/content/kidneystones
<2022-11-29T00:56:24.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I quote: "Calcium oxalate: The most common type of kidney stone which is created when calcium combines with oxalate in the urine. Inadequate calcium and fluid intake, as well other conditions, may contribute to their formation."
<2022-11-29T00:56:35.000Z> AnimeTradCath: No, the word barbarian comes from Greek. It is what the Romans and the Greeks would refer to anyone who wasn't them
<2022-11-29T00:57:12.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Germans living in the Roman territories and who were Roman Citizens are still Barbarians
<2022-11-29T00:57:27.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: However, do note that oxalates themselves can cause inadequate calcium intake due to the fact that they make calcium unusable to the body.
<2022-11-29T00:58:10.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I've eaten vegetables all my life, yet I have never had any kidney problems
<2022-11-29T00:58:16.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Let alone Kidney stones
<2022-11-29T00:58:26.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: That was only one example.
<2022-11-29T00:58:52.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Different people are predisposed to different health problems, and most health problems can be traced back to dietary vegetation.
<2022-11-29T00:59:09.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I know it sounds "extreme" or whatever, but it's true.
<2022-11-29T00:59:51.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Non-nutritive amino acids in plant foods cause autoimmune issues: https://youtube.com/watch?v=CWD-QvnKWqk
<2022-11-29T01:01:38.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: You can read all about plant defense chemicals and the effects that they have on human health here: https://nutritionwithjudy.com/the-darkside-of-plants-anti-nutrients/
<2022-11-29T01:02:52.000Z> AnimeTradCath: That's cool
<2022-11-29T01:03:03.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: What's cool?
<2022-11-29T01:03:06.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I'm still eating what my Ancestors ate
<2022-11-29T01:03:46.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: You can do that. I'm just saying that just because they ate that doesn't mean that it was the healthiest diet for them.
<2022-11-29T01:04:00.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: In the 1950s, lots of people smoked. Did that mean that it was healthy? Of course not. 
<2022-11-29T01:04:27.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Yet again Moderation comes in, something that you stated was overrated
<2022-11-29T01:04:31.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: If everyone smoked, it'd be easy to think that the negative effects of smoking are just a normal part of life.
<2022-11-29T01:04:48.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Yes, moderation is overrated because it's a logical fallacy.
<2022-11-29T01:05:02.000Z> AnimeTradCath: it's not
<2022-11-29T01:05:06.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/Argument-to-Moderation
<2022-11-29T01:07:04.000Z> AnimeTradCath: So what should I choose between Lust or Celibacy?
<2022-11-29T01:09:33.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: That's not the same comparison.
<2022-11-29T01:10:00.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: This is either a strawman argument or you're confused about the point I'm making.
<2022-11-29T01:10:25.000Z> AnimeTradCath: You're also not understanding what Moderation itself is. It's a tool, a method of Praxis. It isn't some doctrinal stance that must be rigidly held to.
<2022-11-29T01:11:23.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Moderation does not always apply. For some things, there is no moderation.
<2022-11-29T01:11:33.000Z> AnimeTradCath: That's my point
<2022-11-29T01:11:41.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Nonetheless, a perversion is a misuse of something.
<2022-11-29T01:12:11.000Z> AnimeTradCath: A Husband enjoying his Wife isn't a perversion of the Marital act
<2022-11-29T01:12:16.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Particularly diverting something to a wrong end or wrong purpose.
<2022-11-29T01:12:26.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I know, and I never said that it did.
<2022-11-29T01:12:43.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: But a guy doing other dudes sure is.
<2022-11-29T01:14:09.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: You see, lust is a biological incentive to reproduce. Among those who not made vows of celibacy, it is to be used for reproduction. Not sodomy, masturbation, bestiality, or any other such usage.
<2022-11-29T01:15:02.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Hence, to perform homosexual acts, or zoophiliac acts, is a perversion.
<2022-11-29T01:15:18.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: For those activities are sterile.
<2022-11-29T01:15:31.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: They inherently go against the purpose of lust.
<2022-11-29T01:15:44.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Following the Lord's commands here is the Moderate position as it allows Man to engage in his sexual desires in a healthy and beneficial manner.
<2022-11-29T01:16:07.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: That is not the moderate position.
<2022-11-29T01:16:27.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: That is merely using sexual desire for their correct purpose.
<2022-11-29T01:16:58.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: A guy doing it with his wife is using lust for its purpose. That is not moderation, nor is it a perversion.
<2022-11-29T01:17:32.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/perverting
<2022-11-29T01:17:39.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/pervert
<2022-11-29T01:18:32.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I cite definition 2 a of the first link and definition 5 of the second link.
<2022-11-29T01:19:30.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Not the clearest argument that I made
<2022-11-29T01:19:43.000Z> AnimeTradCath: poignant*
<2022-11-29T01:21:36.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: If Pfiezer is doing a trial on vaccine safety, and the FDA says that they have to have a group of people in the trial who receive a saline injection rather than the vaccine, and Pfiezer gives a vaccine to the group that were supposed to receive a saline injection, does this indicate that the vaccine is safe or not?
<2022-11-29T01:22:38.000Z> AnimeTradCath: That's not how a double blind test would work
<2022-11-29T01:22:46.000Z> AnimeTradCath: or would be run
<2022-11-29T01:23:24.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: More specifically, if Pfiezer says that the vaccine is safe because the group that wasn't supposed to receive the vaccine had no differing effects from the people who were supposed to receive it, then does this indicate that the vaccine is safe? Why or why not?
<2022-11-29T01:24:53.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: It is a simplified version of how a double blind trial would be constructed.
<2022-11-29T01:24:55.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Better define what group A is receiving and what group B is receiving
<2022-11-29T01:25:35.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Group A recieves the Pfiezer vax; group B also receives that same pfiezer vaxx.
<2022-11-29T01:26:27.000Z> AnimeTradCath: That's not a double blind experiment, that's a manipulated expiriment
<2022-11-29T01:26:52.000Z> AnimeTradCath: experiment*
<2022-11-29T01:27:01.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Well yes.
<2022-11-29T01:27:06.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: You're right.
<2022-11-29T01:27:47.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Don't use the corruption from the COVID debacle as an example
<2022-11-29T01:28:23.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I'm using it as an example to show that without a proper control group, data can be useless.
<2022-11-29T01:28:45.000Z> AnimeTradCath: how does this refute that moderation can be used as a tool?
<2022-11-29T01:28:48.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Obviously, if both groups receive the vaccine, that doesn't mean the vaccine is safe, does it?
<2022-11-29T01:29:29.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: The only way a trial could prove that it is safe is by including 1 group of people who got the vax and 1 group of people who didn't.
<2022-11-29T01:29:58.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: If the control group gets the vaccine, then of course there'd be no differing effects from the other group.
<2022-11-29T01:30:00.000Z> AnimeTradCath: again how does this disprove that moderation is an effective tool when used properaly
<2022-11-29T01:30:13.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: That's actually not the point I was making.
<2022-11-29T01:30:48.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: The point I was trying to make is that yes, Europeans have consumed grains and veggies for some time, but they have nothing to compare that to.
<2022-11-29T01:31:28.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I compare it the results of what was accomplished with that diet
<2022-11-29T01:31:28.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: They don't know that's optimal because they have not, except in isolated incidents (unless the Gauchos count), refrained from consuming vegetation for extended periods of time.
<2022-11-29T01:32:39.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Likewise, a society in which every woman drinks alcohol during pregnancy may think that fetal alcohol syndrome is normal because they've never seen what happens when women don't drink alcohol in pregnancy.
<2022-11-29T01:33:28.000Z> AnimeTradCath: That population would die out
<2022-11-29T01:33:48.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: You're probably right.
<2022-11-29T01:34:07.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: And they wouldn't learn their lesson, now would they? They'd only learn what it's like to be dead.
<2022-11-29T01:34:31.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Europeans conquered the World eating a high Meat diet with Vegetables and Grains
<2022-11-29T01:34:50.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: But what would we have done without grains?
<2022-11-29T01:35:17.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: You can't say that a "moderation" diet is best when other diets have not been tried.
<2022-11-29T01:35:18.000Z> AnimeTradCath: jews are the bigger issue here
<2022-11-29T01:35:32.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Yeah, and jews are the ones who promote the moderation stuff.
<2022-11-29T01:35:51.000Z> AnimeTradCath: the jews are the actual detriment to European success and acomplishment
<2022-11-29T01:36:00.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Going back to ancient Rome and Greece, there has been descriptions of type 2 diabetes in the modern world.
<2022-11-29T01:36:09.000Z> AnimeTradCath: No the jews promote sin and perversion
<2022-11-29T01:36:28.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Just like in the modern world, the ancient Greeks and Romans knew of type 2 diabetes.
<2022-11-29T01:36:48.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Yeah, the jews promote the sin of gluttony - eating because things taste good even if they don't nourish the body.
<2022-11-29T01:37:15.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Type 2 Diabetes is caused mainly be genetic factors
<2022-11-29T01:37:49.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: No, it's caused by eating too many carbs too often.
<2022-11-29T01:38:10.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: That's why it goes into remission when people go on a low-carb diet like keto.
<2022-11-29T01:38:50.000Z> AnimeTradCath: At what point did I state that Man should eat a high grain diet?
<2022-11-29T01:39:17.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Genetic factors can increase the likelihood of developing it, but what ultimately causes it is chronic overconsumption of non-structural carbohydrates (aka net carbs).
<2022-11-29T01:40:10.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Grains are not the only source of carbs. Fruits and pulses are also high in carbs. Short of coconut oil or other plant oils there isn't any plant food which lacks carbs.
<2022-11-29T01:40:38.000Z> AnimeTradCath: God gave Man fruit to eat
<2022-11-29T01:40:58.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Eating only fruit is bad
<2022-11-29T01:41:06.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: He never said that fruit nourishes the body.
<2022-11-29T01:41:18.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Neither have I
<2022-11-29T01:41:47.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Fruits are a supplementary source, not a primary source
<2022-11-29T01:41:49.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Also, I don't think that much is known about the role of animal-sourced foods human diet in the Garden of Eden.
<2022-11-29T01:42:27.000Z> AnimeTradCath: God never prohibited Man from eating fruit
<2022-11-29T01:42:44.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: It's possible, although biologically not making much sense from what we currently know about genetics, that humans started out as hindgut fermenter herbivores, like horses and rabbits.
<2022-11-29T01:43:16.000Z> AnimeTradCath: This is just a ridiculous point
<2022-11-29T01:44:44.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: And that after the Fall of Adam, that's when we started to eat meat due to somehow the caecum being rendered non-functional as a caecum (in humans, what is known as the appendix would be the caecum) and the large hindgut got smaller, being replaced by a large stomach.
<2022-11-29T01:45:20.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I'm not sure there's an official Catholic stance on this hypothesis, but I think I've seen protestants suggest it.
<2022-11-29T01:46:14.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I'm not entertaining such a retarded point
<2022-11-29T01:47:28.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I doubt it as well, although I can't claim to know exactly how the fall of Adam affected human physiology, but it did seem to affect human physilogy somehow considering that Adam and Eve's children were able to marry each other without inbreeding defects.
<2022-11-29T01:47:29.000Z> AnimeTradCath: If we marry, I'll gladly accept your complaints while I eat my potatoes and fermented Cabbage
<2022-11-29T01:48:02.000Z> AnimeTradCath: While also enjoying a nice steak and pork loin
<2022-11-29T01:48:12.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I'll pass.
<2022-11-29T01:48:24.000Z> AnimeTradCath: More for me then
<2022-11-29T01:48:32.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I'd prefer a man who does not use name-calling as a substitute for logical arguments.
<2022-11-29T01:49:00.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Good because that's not what I did
<2022-11-29T01:49:28.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: And I'd also prefer a man who is more interested in raw facts and logic than simply letting his belly dominate his decision-making.
<2022-11-29T01:50:03.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: By the way, potatoes actually are a New World crop. They have only been in the European diet for around 500 years.
<2022-11-29T01:50:19.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I used my mind to discern that the wisdom of my ancestors is better than what modernity states
<2022-11-29T01:50:30.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I'm well aware
<2022-11-29T01:52:11.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I used a combination of history from varying ethnic groups around the world, their health status as noted by medical professionals from back before the pro-plant propaganda, coupled by a knowledge of digestive anatomy, to determine that both our ancestors and modernity are wrong.
<2022-11-29T01:53:43.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: And the anecdotes of a growing number of people who cured their health by removing plants from their diet, as well as even an actual study of 2 White dudes who lived on a plant-less diet for a year under medical supervision.
<2022-11-29T01:54:04.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: There was a time when smoking was normal in the US.
<2022-11-29T01:54:19.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: It's even seen as "traditional" in American culture.
<2022-11-29T01:54:24.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: That doesn't make it healthy.
<2022-11-29T01:55:23.000Z> AnimeTradCath: How much do you think exercise plays a role in a persons health?
<2022-11-29T01:55:30.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: In China, it's traditional to do foot binding. That doesn't make it a good idea to do foot binding.
<2022-11-29T01:55:53.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Quite little as far as physical health goes, although it can have mental health benefits.
<2022-11-29T01:56:45.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Why would I look to a foreign people for guidance when I can look to my own? 
<2022-11-29T01:57:15.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: The "exercise is healthy for you" narrative originates in the Calories In Calories Out theory, which actually violates the Second Law of Thermodynamics.
<2022-11-29T01:59:18.000Z> AnimeTradCath: That's quite the take.
<2022-11-29T01:59:27.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Because optimal diets are species-wide, although different races within the same species may be more or less tolerant of different stressors. For instance, a British Shetland Pony does not need as much feed per 100 lbs of body weight as would a Thoroughbred because the former is the product of merciless natural selection for the ability to survive for months without end on sparse low-quality forage.
<2022-11-29T01:59:52.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Actually, no it's not: https://nutritionj.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1475-2891-3-9
<2022-11-29T02:00:30.000Z> AnimeTradCath: You're assuming that I define all Calories as equal
<2022-11-29T02:01:08.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Calories are a measurement of heat, not energy for the body. The body doesn't run on heat - it's not an engine.
<2022-11-29T02:01:36.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Heat is a measure of the average energy within a given system
<2022-11-29T02:01:58.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: But it doesn't work on the body because metabolism is adjustable.
<2022-11-29T02:02:27.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: And also because the body uses adenosine triphosphate (aka ATP) for fuel.
<2022-11-29T02:02:33.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Metabolism changes based on diet and exercise
<2022-11-29T02:03:11.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Also certain environmental changes
<2022-11-29T02:03:23.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: ATP can be produced by either glycolic or ketotic metabolism.
<2022-11-29T02:03:44.000Z> AnimeTradCath: and?
<2022-11-29T02:04:26.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Although in ketosis, some ATP is produced by glycolysis due to a minority of cells and tissue being unable to use ketones to produce ATP due to a lack of mitochondria.
<2022-11-29T02:04:35.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Exercise does not change metabolism.
<2022-11-29T02:05:03.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Metabolism adjusts to prevent weight loss when exercise increases.
<2022-11-29T02:05:34.000Z> AnimeTradCath: So exercise does change ones Metabolism
<2022-11-29T02:06:04.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Not in a way that leads to weight loss.
<2022-11-29T02:07:02.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Exercise is useless for fat loss.
<2022-11-29T02:07:24.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Of course the jews promote the calories in/calories out stuff to keep people fat.
<2022-11-29T02:07:56.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: That way they keep stuffing their faces full of carbs and get obesity-related problems.
<2022-11-29T02:08:03.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Metabolism is the body changing food into energy. Increasing ones exercise increases their energy demands. This means they need to consume more food to keep up with their energy demands. Metabolism is affected by exercise
<2022-11-29T02:08:25.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: That's an aspect of metabolism, but metabolism is more than just that.
<2022-11-29T02:09:02.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Exercise does not increase energy demands as the body adjusts to become more energy-efficient and ultimately ends up using the same amount of energy as it did before.
<2022-11-29T02:09:46.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: And no, changing the amount of food you consume is not a requirement of exercise.
<2022-11-29T02:09:47.000Z> AnimeTradCath: The demand widens
<2022-11-29T02:10:02.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: This idea has been proven false.
<2022-11-29T02:10:55.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: The body adjusts homeostatically.
<2022-11-29T02:11:44.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: If you eat the same amount of the same foods but exercise more, you will not lose fat because your body will simply adjust to the increased amount of exercise.
<2022-11-29T02:12:14.000Z> AnimeTradCath: The body does adjust to the increasing demands, but the demands still increases. A Man who can lift 800lbs of weight on a consistent basis needs to consume a higher amount of food than someone who sits around all day
<2022-11-29T02:12:20.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: It would violate homeostasis if mere exercise levels affected weight in any way besides gaining muscle.
<2022-11-29T02:12:48.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: That man needs protein in order to maintain and gain muscle. It is not energy that he needs more of.
<2022-11-29T02:13:18.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Man derives energy from Protein
<2022-11-29T02:13:21.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: He has alot of muscle and as such he needs alot of protein to maintain it, and especially he'll need alot if he's trying to gain muscle.
<2022-11-29T02:13:36.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: No, protein is not used for energy in the body.
<2022-11-29T02:14:08.000Z> AnimeTradCath: This is just incorrect
<2022-11-29T02:14:17.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: A small amount of protein may turned into glucose via gluconeogensis in order to supply energy to cells that lack mitochondria, but humans are very inefficent at it.
<2022-11-29T02:15:15.000Z> AnimeTradCath: This is why Man eats carbs, as all carbs are made up of glucose chains
<2022-11-29T02:15:22.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: We're so inefficient at it, in fact, that if we eat protein without carbs or fat with which to produce glucose or ketones, respectively, we get something called rabbit starvation - aka starving despite eating food.
<2022-11-29T02:15:40.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Type 1 diabetes is actually very similar to rabbit starvation...
<2022-11-29T02:15:56.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Just a different cause.
<2022-11-29T02:16:07.000Z> AnimeTradCath: You're originating mindset is faulty
<2022-11-29T02:17:09.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Dietary carbs are not necessary as what few cells and tissues cannot use ketones for fuel can easily get all the glucose they need via the gluconeogenesis of most amino acids, but usually other substrates such as lactate.
<2022-11-29T02:18:07.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: In fact, carbs aren't even the ideal source of fuel for most cells and tissue: http://www.ketotic.org/2014/01/language-barriers-preferred-fuel.html
<2022-11-29T02:18:40.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: https://www.paleocastle.com/2016/05/04/5-reasons-dont-need-carbs-energy/
<2022-11-29T02:19:35.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: If you want to learn about human nutrition, I have a whole section of my link list about it.
<2022-11-29T02:20:21.000Z> AnimeTradCath: The mindset you have is faulty
<2022-11-29T02:20:31.000Z> AnimeTradCath: and I'm not referring to nutrition
<2022-11-29T02:20:58.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: See? You're so set on your ways that you don't even bother to read my citations or their citations.
<2022-11-29T02:22:00.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I give you that I tend to be stubborn, but I am referring to deeper matters. You can send me what are willing to offer and I
<2022-11-29T02:22:07.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I'll gladdly read it*
<2022-11-29T02:22:17.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: It is not a sin to eat vegetation when there is no other food available, but to eat things which do not nourish the body because they taste good is a perversion of eating as the purpose of eating is to nourish the body.
<2022-11-29T02:22:54.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: That's what being a facultative carnivore means - a species that does best on a carnivorous diet but can still survive, albeit not do as good as they could, on a diet that includes non-animal foods.
<2022-11-29T02:23:50.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Wonderful, I guess conquering the World and subjugating lesser Races doesn't count as "Thriving"
<2022-11-29T02:23:56.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I'm stubborn in the sense of when I have a goal, I will do all that I can to achieve it, and when I make a decision I tend to stick to it. As I have told you, to appeal to me one must use facts and logic, not emotion or any other non-logical arguments.
<2022-11-29T02:24:35.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Thriving societally and thriving in physical health are 2 very different things.
<2022-11-29T02:24:48.000Z> AnimeTradCath: One derives from the other
<2022-11-29T02:24:55.000Z> AnimeTradCath: out of*
<2022-11-29T02:25:00.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Civilized people, such as Whites and Asians may thrive as a society but their physical health sucks overall.
<2022-11-29T02:25:18.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Savage groups thrive physically but have crappy societies.
<2022-11-29T02:25:37.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I want to combine both - top physical health in a great society.
<2022-11-29T02:26:32.000Z> AnimeTradCath: You do know that when the individual Man thrives, he can contribute to his group so that the group also thrives
<2022-11-29T02:26:35.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Savages did not suffer obesity or diabetes. They did not suffer epilepsy. They did not suffer all sorts of health problems that in a civilized society are largely seen as normal.
<2022-11-29T02:27:08.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Yeah, and as such just imagine how much healthier Western society would be if Westerners stopped eating plants.
<2022-11-29T02:27:35.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: People think that brain fog is normal, when in reality it's caused by chronic overconsumption of carbs.
<2022-11-29T02:27:44.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: People can't even digest plants for the most part.
<2022-11-29T02:27:49.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Savages are subject to nature to a greater degree than Europeans. Aryans built civilization which allows us to control Nature to a degree
<2022-11-29T02:28:29.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Aryans are dot Indians, not White. 
<2022-11-29T02:28:50.000Z> AnimeTradCath: You don't see these problems within Savages because Nature uses those problems to cull these Savages
<2022-11-29T02:29:24.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: The whole "White Aryan" thing originated in conflating linguistic similarities with genetic similarities.
<2022-11-29T02:29:53.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: We should not control nature but work with it. Nature is a creation of God and as such it deserves respect.
<2022-11-29T02:30:33.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: The idea that nature is to be dominated rather than worked with in harmony is a very jewish one.
<2022-11-29T02:31:02.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Europeans are descendent from Aryans, as they conquered Europe 5 to 7 thousand years ago. The Iranians and the Northern Indians also descend from the Aryans as well.
<2022-11-29T02:31:06.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: jews invented GMOs. jews want us to live in pods. They hate nature.
<2022-11-29T02:31:34.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: No, North Indians don't have genetic similarities to us. They're basically albinos of the other Indians.
<2022-11-29T02:33:04.000Z> AnimeTradCath: You're just wrong here. They've become mongrelized yes, but the Aryans that conquered the Subcontinent also conquered Europe, then the World 
<2022-11-29T02:33:26.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: There is no genetic evidence for that claim.
<2022-11-29T02:33:46.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: It's all about linguistics, not genetics.
<2022-11-29T02:34:15.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Linguistics, Culture, and Genetics.
<2022-11-29T02:34:15.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: It's basically weeabooism but with dot Indians instead of the Japanese.
<2022-11-29T02:34:35.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Aspects of culture carried over via major trade routes like the Silk Roads.
<2022-11-29T02:35:08.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Linguistics is no different.
<2022-11-29T02:35:22.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Culture and Language stay rather close to a people. 
<2022-11-29T02:36:30.000Z> AnimeTradCath: People don't adopt a new language and culture for the hell of it. They do so when a superior people conquer them, i.e. the Aryan invasion of the Indian Subcontinent 
<2022-11-29T02:36:30.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Usually they do, but not always.
<2022-11-29T02:36:52.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: With enough contact, language can carry over without genetics carrying over.
<2022-11-29T02:37:11.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: There was no Aryan invasion of India.
<2022-11-29T02:37:44.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: It's a big larp. A deception to make Whites feel like we have something in common with dot Indians.
<2022-11-29T02:37:59.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Instead of being proud of being what we actually are.
<2022-11-29T02:38:09.000Z> AnimeTradCath: You're just wrong here.
<2022-11-29T02:38:52.000Z> AnimeTradCath: on all points regarding such Anthropology
<2022-11-29T02:39:50.000Z> AnimeTradCath: and Archeology
<2022-11-29T02:42:48.000Z> AnimeTradCath: You probably looked cute during this entire exchange
<2022-11-29T03:16:36.000Z> AnimeTradCath: What are you up to currently?
<2022-11-29T04:00:56.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I really don't think that you and I are meant to be. You don't have a thirst for knowledge like I do. You get so cocky about thinking that you already know things, that you block out new information.
<2022-11-29T04:02:08.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I need a man who is humble enough to set aside any beliefs he may have if he encounters information which contradicts them.
<2022-11-29T04:03:06.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I've done that numerous times and I remain on the alert for it to happen again.
<2022-11-29T04:39:35.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Seeking after ideas that are contrary to what others believe merely for their contrariness isn't thirsting for knowledge. Thirsting for knowledge is an indomitable searching for the truth, and to understand said truth no matter what. Regarding our compatibility, I reject your position that we are not in any degree compatible merely because of a simple disagreement between you and I. You are a rather headstrong, feisty, and idealistic. Things I rather attractive in a woman, but you are also young so these are extra fierce, yet untempered. I was actually enjoying having such a verbal tussle with you, for it has been quite a while since I had such fun, and unfortunately such faculties have perhaps atrophied a bit. I hope that more such engagements occur again so that your iron can sharpen my iron. In terms of inquiry, I was rather happy to be conversing with someone who is quite a bit more knowledgeable with regards to theological matters than I, and I was looking forward to picking your brain as much as I can. 
<2022-11-29T04:41:15.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I search for obscure information.
<2022-11-29T04:41:28.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: The things that most people don't know or notice.
<2022-11-29T04:41:44.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I want to know what knowledge I'm missing out on.
<2022-11-29T04:43:14.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Not simply ideas that most people disagree with, although I do keep an eye out for such things because it can lead to me gaining knowledge and a better understanding of things.
<2022-11-29T04:43:25.000Z> AnimeTradCath: For me the more important thing is to understand to reason for why something exist, rather than the knowledge of it's existence.
<2022-11-29T04:43:51.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: For me, it's both.
<2022-11-29T04:44:32.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: If I get to heaven then I'm likely to either bombard God with questions or ask for Him to grant me omniscence.
<2022-11-29T04:45:40.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Are you saying that you weren't treating it as an intellectual debate but as a argument for the sake of arguing?
<2022-11-29T04:45:42.000Z> AnimeTradCath: You'll have an easier time asking him questions for the rest of entirety while you're in heaven 
<2022-11-29T04:47:24.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: It's not disagreement I have a problem with. My problem is when I'm trying to share and discuss information with an interlocutor who is so confident in their beliefs that they close their mind to new information.
<2022-11-29T04:47:47.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I don't understand how people manage to do that.
<2022-11-29T04:48:15.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I most certainly did treat is as a matter if intellectual discussion between us.
<2022-11-29T04:49:20.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: It certainly is not doing so to resort to logical fallacies like name-calling and not present anything to support your claims.
<2022-11-29T04:51:43.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I never once resorted to any fallacious argumentation nor name-calling, perhaps my tiredness affected my ability to articulate my ideas I'll give you that.
<2022-11-29T04:52:54.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: "I'm not entertaining such a retarded point" isn't calling anything names?
<2022-11-29T04:53:37.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I mentioned a hypothesis which I admit that I am skeptical of, and that was the closest thing to a refutation that you gave me? I can think of a much better refutation than that.
<2022-11-29T04:54:24.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I called the idea retarded, not you. 
<2022-11-29T04:54:51.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Yes, and is still calling names but not calling me names.
<2022-11-29T04:55:10.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: You also ignored the evidence I provided for my claims when I did so.
<2022-11-29T04:55:24.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: That is not proper debate.
<2022-11-29T04:56:26.000Z> AnimeTradCath: No that is me stating my opinion regarding the idea, if I said that you're retarded for bringing up the idea then you'd be correct.
<2022-11-29T04:57:18.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I did not claim that you called me names but that you did call something a name.
<2022-11-29T04:57:23.000Z> AnimeTradCath: You are certainly correct that I was rather liberal in hand waving things away
<2022-11-29T04:58:20.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: And why did you do so?
<2022-11-29T04:59:16.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I didn't expect such a debate and I've been up for about 20 hours today
<2022-11-29T05:00:33.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Ok then. Get some sleep, read the links I provided, and see if you can construct some quality counterarguments.
<2022-11-29T05:00:57.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: But also, do consider the arguments I made and the evidence I provided to support them.
<2022-11-29T05:03:46.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I will admit that I can be stubborn, something that I have received from my German blood, but a scoundrel who lacks humility? Never.
<2022-11-29T05:04:47.000Z> AnimeTradCath: If I am beaten then I shall yield, but if I believe otherwise I shall still fight
<2022-11-29T05:05:00.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Then prove it.
<2022-11-29T05:05:24.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Get some sleep for now though. Maybe make a reminder to prove to me the authenticity of that claim.
<2022-11-29T05:05:47.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I say that you enjoy a bit of competition now.
<2022-11-29T05:06:31.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: It's not competition or me trying to win, it's me putting you to the test.
<2022-11-29T05:06:57.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I'll ask for those sources tomorrow 
<2022-11-29T05:06:58.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I always put guys to the test.
<2022-11-29T05:07:21.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I put everyone to the test if I talk to them enough.
<2022-11-29T05:07:27.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Or even if I just met them.
<2022-11-29T05:07:40.000Z> AnimeTradCath: A competition it is!
<2022-11-29T05:09:43.000Z> AnimeTradCath: We'll speak tomorrow, you'll have to send me those sources again because I'll forget while I am at work and school 
<2022-11-29T05:34:38.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Plant Foods are Loaded with Chemicals to Discourage Predation: https://nutritionwithjudy.com/the-darkside-of-plants-anti-nutrients/To eat/drink soley for pleasure is gluttonous: https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/06590a.htmDietary carbs are not necessary: http://blog.questnutrition.com/carbs-are-not-your-bodys-preferred-fuel-source-despite-what-you-have-been-told/Fiber is bad for you: https://davidgillespie.org/4-good-reasons-not-to-add-fibre-to-your-diet/Calories In/Calories Out Violates the Second Law of Therodynamics: https://nutritionj.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1475-2891-3-9Bonus Source to debunk Calorie Theory: http://www.gnolls.org/3374/there-is-no-such-thing-as-a-calorie-to-your-body/Bonus Source, a Doctor Who Admits that "Everything in moderation" is bad advice: https://youtube.com/watch?v=PdpZSrHysSgA Source on the 2 White Dudes Who Were on a Plant-less diet for a year under medical supervision: https://www.jbc.org/article/S0021-9258(18)76842-7/pdfHuman Digestive Anatomy is Very Similar to That of Wolves: http://highsteaks.com/carnivore-vs-omnivore-vs-herbivore-chart/Humans are Facultative Carnivores: https://ketogenicendurance.com/2018/06/22/carnivore-diet-are-humans-carnivores/
<2022-11-29T15:40:45.000Z> AnimeTradCath: For logical consistency and so that I am not arguing against a strawman, what is the entirety of the claim that you are asserting? 
<2022-11-29T20:24:27.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Just because something is typical in a society does not make it the optimal thing to do, even if it’s the only way of doing things as dar as that society knows, and just because people do great things on a Western diet doesn’t mean that they’re living up to their fullest health potential. There is the occasional tradition which is not good to follow, like foot binding or pagan rituals or whatever. If an unhealthy practice is common place in a society then it’s easy to dismiss the consequences of it as just a normal part of life, so if a society is on a less-than optimal diet then the adverse effects tend to just get brushed off as something that’s inevitable or has some sort of cause besides diet.
<2022-11-29T20:27:22.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I highly recommend viewing Dr. Ken Berry’s content (he’s on YouTube) as he debunks myths about what is and is not healthy, and he’s not afraid to provide sources in the description of his videos in order to permit people to see that what he says is true.
<2022-11-29T20:30:19.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Also, the fact that for a diet to be appropriate for one ethnic group but not another would require differing digestive anatomy, which would result in ethnic groups not merely being different races and subraces of the same species but outright a distinct species.
<2022-11-29T20:32:54.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: And to get you to use your higher reason, analyzing evidence and coming to a conclusion based on the actual facts rather than being intellectually lazy enough to just believe whatever you thought you knew even if it’s unsubstantiated and not bother using your brain.
<2022-11-29T21:34:22.000Z> AnimeTradCath: At no point did I, nor will I ever advocate for the Modern Western Diet for it is an aberration of the dietary traditions and habits of Europeans. This diet which has grains and vegetables as the staple source for nutrition isn’t what I advocate for. A Traditional European Diet which has Meat and Dairy as its staple nutrition with Fruits and Vegetables as a minor second source and with Grains being a minor tertiary source is the diet that I advocate for, and one that I personally eat when available. My assertion that merely eating a vegetable or two to accompany a meal shouldn’t be conflated with predominately eating vegetables for your diet. Regarding both the Inuit peoples of the Arctic and the Mongolian hordes of the Mongolian Steppes, they have a predominate meat and dairy diet due to the necessity of their geographical environment. The amount of eatable vegetation that occurs in their natural environment is so insignificant that it isn’t worth the effort for them to consume such vegetation. While we both agree that Tradition shouldn’t be worshipped and rigidly followed as if it is doctrine, the examples that you have provided here are either redundant to the conversation, i.e., practicing pagan rituals as the last of the pagan Europeans were the Baltic tribes which converted in the 13th century, or completely irrelevant, i.e., Foot bindings as they are a Chinese beauty tradition that aren’t anything related to European traditions nor our sensibilities. The fact that there are a myriad of differing opinions and critiques, ranging from fad diets to more serious ones, regarding the health problems from the high carb and high processed refined sugar diet of the Modern Western Diet, while being anecdotal shows that the ill effects of this “commonplace” diet aren’t brushed off. The video from Dr. Ken Berry that you sent about how “all things in moderation is TERRIBLE advice” was referring to people with addiction problems. Moderation as a tool doesn’t mean that the same level of moderation applies to every single person across the board, for an alcoholic moderation would be expunging alcohol from themselves while for someone else it could be mean lowering the amount of alcohol that he would consume. This is how I define the use of moderation to temper oneself.
<2022-11-29T22:06:04.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Believe it or not, the modern Western diet isn't that far off from traditional Western diets. It's often higher in carbs due to people having been propagandized into thinking that fat and cholesterol are bad for them, and higher in fiber, and obviously it often includes artificial ingredients, but I criticize both the standard American diet and traditional Western diets because neither of them are optimal. It isn't really ever worth the effort to consume vegetation because it has so little nutritional value. The examples I gave may not be relevant to modern Europeans but they weren't meant to be because the point I was making is that there are sometimes traditions that should not be followed, regardless of what group's tradition it is. The ill effects of the commonplace diet are usually brushed off, even if there is a minority of folks who acknowledge it. Yeah, "all things in moderation" is just an excuse to keep eating addictive foods with little to no nutritional value, which tend to be rather high-carb ones.
<2022-11-29T22:25:06.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I should clarify that the Traditional European diet isn’t one singular diet, but a collection of dietary habits that differ based upon the different ethnicities of Europe. The Modern Western Diet, while being derived from these dietary habits, is a corruption of these habits. The great ills of this modern diet have more to do with greater use of industrial processes that have replaced Traditional means of agriculture and food production. Such mechanisms and technological processes have distorted what we are given for food into a highly polluted degenerate variation of what we used to eat. The increased use of pesticides and genetically modified food as well as the mechanized, processed, and extremely processed food is a greater cause of our calamity rather than the food itself. Regarding your last point, it is only an excuse when someone has no self-control, nor the want to eat a properly balanced diet.
<2022-11-29T22:28:24.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I know that different European countries have different traditional diets, but overall they're pretty similar to each other. The modern diet is like the traditional European diets but even worse, and just because it's worse doesn't make traditional European diets a good diet.
<2022-11-29T22:29:14.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: And if we're being honest, few if any people who believe in "everything in moderation" are saying that for reasons other than to justify or promote an addiction.
<2022-11-29T22:44:40.000Z> AnimeTradCath: The Modern Diet isn't the Traditional Diet, but worse. Europeans never traditional had grains as their sole staple food, it was meat, dairy, and vegetables with grains being used as a supplementary sources. Also the different cultural diets of Europe aren't marginally different from each other. The Mediterranean diet is a high fat, protein, and vegetable diet, while the more Germanic and Slavic peoples eat slightly more grains. Highly refined sugar, High Fructose Corn syrup, and chemical preservative laden food is a post World War II "innovation" that supplanted what Americans used to eat. Europeans who predominately have stuck to their Traditional Diet are remarkable healthier than Americans, even while drinking and smoking more. Unfortunately, due to judeo-American meddling in our Homeland this is starting to move towards what the American diet is.
<2022-11-29T22:47:21.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Humans are omnivorous as Man has a propensity to consume plants when they are available, this doesn't mean that plants should be our main food source, as we both agree the Meat and Dairy should our main food source.
<2022-11-30T01:08:27.000Z> AnimeTradCath: What do you enjoy reading?
<2022-11-30T01:09:13.000Z> AnimeTradCath: And what about music?
<2022-11-30T02:23:31.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: But vegetables aren’t really any better than grains. Europeans who eat their traditional diet may be healthier than Americans but they are not as healthy as Europeans who refrain from consuming plants. Humans are not omnivorous but rather facultative carnivores.
<2022-11-30T02:24:20.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Mostly educational material. As for music, background music, classical music, and xylophone music.
<2022-11-30T15:38:30.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Your purported "negative" effects that vegetables and grains have on the Human body can only attributed to a pure herbaceous diet consisting of entirely vegetation for sustinence which is a highly abnormal occurrence. This herbaceous diet cannot be compared to that of grazing animals that entirety eat high cellulose vegetation from mainly grasses and leaves. Vegan and Vegetarian diets, which I would highly disincentivize, don't solely consist of a high cellulose vegetation, but rather a multitude of differing plant material, from leaves, berries, flower, grains, fungus, tubers, etc. Comparing Man's digestive system to that of a grazing Ruminant is highly dishonest and deliberately deceptive, as our digestive system is more similar to that of pigs and apes which both eat animal and plant matter. Regarding the chemical "defences", your first source is a rather poor source against eating plants, as for one it contains a disclaimer that specifically states in the first few lines that it isn't meant to dissuade readers against eating vegetables and two the only claims that it makes regarding the supposed negative effects of vegetable consumption are that certain chemicals have the possibility of harm in high enough quantities in certain individuals, but this can easily be regulated by understanding your body reacts to what you eat. To say that this demonstrates that vegetables are bad for you is equivalent to stating that you shouldn't walk outside because there's a possibility for you to get hit by a car. This argument is even more ridiculous as most of those "chemicals" are beneficial for Human consumption at normal levels, in fact certain natural defense chemicals that a plant produces against insect predation are in fact benefical for Human consumption. Caffeine and Nicotine which the Coffee and the Tobacco plant produces are beneficial for Human consumption; caffeine moreso and nicotine in more limited applications. Both are stimulants that are harmless to humans, minus some rather extreme cases, that can be a benefit for us. As for your second source, it is an even worse source. Being a blog that is run by a protein supply company such a source should be already met with speculation, but what's even worse as the article itself provides nothing of actual substance besides to what amounts to pointed speculation. The reason why carbohydrates are a preferred fuel source is that they are far easier for your body to metabolize than that of protein and fat. The Human body tries all that it can to do what it can in the easiest quickest manner, metabolizing carbs is easier and quicker to do than protein and fat, as both of the latter require substantially longer amount of time and energy to breakdown when compared to simple sugars which get absorbed a lot faster. In fact the bodies own internal mechanisms to handle carbs are extraordinarily efficient, but are delicate and shouldn't be abused. Now this isn't to say that strictly eating a high carbohydrate diet is the best, as carbs are a quick burst of energy where the latter are much more of a substaned energy. As with Alcohol, it's even easier to metabolize than carbs. Your source is also incorrect regarding Alcohol's purported toxicity, it itself isn't actually toxic what is actually toxic is when it's metabolized into Acetaldehyde, but this is extraordinarily easy to avoid with drinking water with alcohol consumption. Humans are in fact omnivores, as even the classification of "Facultative Carnivore" is by definition an omnivore, but even more the distinction between the two is so minute at best that the two terms are synonymous with each other. In fact Carnivores can be classified based upon how much meat they in fact consume. Hypo-carnivores are classified with less than 30% meat consumption, Meso-carnivores between 30% to 70%, and Hyper-carnivores with a minimum of 70%. All of these "carnivores" could be classified as Omnivorous animals, which Humans fit into.
<2022-11-30T15:38:56.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Regarding the Facultative Carnivore.bio.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/Introductory_and_General_Biology/Book%3A_General_Biology_(Boundless)/34%3A_Animal_Nutrition_and_the_Digestive_System/34.02%3A_Digestive_Systems_-_Herbivores_Omnivores_and_Carnivores#:~:text=Facultative%20carnivores%20are%20those%20that,would%20be%20considered%20facultative%20carnivores.
<2022-11-30T15:43:28.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: There indeed is a very clear line between a facultatice carnivore and an omnivore: an example of an omnivore would be swine. Swine can do well on a vegetarian diet. Facultative carnivores do not experience optimal health on a plant-based diet but do when their diet is lacking in vegetation.
<2022-11-30T15:45:05.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Now if given the choice, swine will consume meat. They like to eat carrion when they find it, but they are not dependent on it for optimal health. Hogs are basically nature’s garbage disposals.
<2022-11-30T16:23:21.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: No, such effects can be attributed to a diet of mixed meat and vegetation and in fact they have been so. You’re right - herbivores like cattle and horses house microbes in their gut that ferment fiber into into fat, which they then absorb and use for energy; aka, herbivores are basically on a ketogenic diet; whereas humans, whose guts lack such microbes, must consume vegetation that is high in net carbs if we are to use it for energy, and fiber just irritates our gut; plus, unlike ruminants, we are not able to neutralize plant defense chemicals as we do not have a rumen. Our digestive system is similar to that of wolves moreso than swine, and it’s quite distinct from that of apes. You see, most of the apes are hindgut fermenters (some are foregut fermenters like cattle), like horses. This means that they have a large fermentation chamber at the back of their digestive tract which houses microbes that ferment fiber into fat. Apes may eat animal matter when they can get it, but they undeniably have the digestive tract of an herbivore. Pigs, on the other hand, actually have a fairly large hindgut that, although it does not ferment fiber into fat with the same efficiency as do those species which are dependent on foregut fermentation or hindgut fermentation of fiber for energy. Swine are great at digesting net carbs though. Adult swine are efficient enough at obtaining energy from hindgut fermentation that they can have up to 50% of their diet consist of forage (aka fibrous plant material). And yes, of course it has that disclaimer because people practically worship plants - without it they’d be roasted. Most people don’t understand how their body reacts to what they eat because they’re so addicted that they can’t even do an elimination diet; plus, an elimination diet can normally only identify if a given food has short-term adverse effects rather than long-term adverse effects. Plant defense chemicals against one species can, in some cases, have a different effect in another, which can sometimes manifest as a medicinal effect. However, alot, if not most, plant defense chemicals do have the capacity to produce negative effects in humans without any medicinal effects. Caffeine is used as a substitute for getting a good night’s sleep, which is not at all healthy, and it actually really can mess you up, causing caffeine crashes and addiction, and lile any symptoms, withdrawl symptoms as a result of addiction. Contrary to what cigar shills may say, nicotine doesn’t really have any beneficial effects - it just doesn’t kill adults right away. No, carbs are process first because they are toxic if too much is left in the blood, and hence they have to be gotten rid of first. Plus, carbohydrate metabolism is pro-inflammatory. The metabolisation of fat for fuel actually provides more ATP per unit than does the metabolisation of carbs for fuel. Alcohol is also metabolised before carbs - does that mean that alcohol id the body’s preferred fuel? No, it means that the body wants to get rid of alcohol ASAP. The carbs that the body metabolises for energy ARE simple sugars. Believe it or not, carbs are actually not a very efficient source of fuel for the body, unlike ketones. Drinking water with the consumption of alcohol does not prevent the formation of acetaldehyde, but rather it supplies moisture that can reduce hangovers due to alcohol metabolism causing dehydration.
<2022-11-30T16:34:02.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: https://www.marksdailyapple.com/a-metabolic-paradigm-shift-fat-carbs-human-body-metabolism/ (yeah it’s got some evolutionist stuff in there but that’s another discussion entirely)
<2022-11-30T16:34:37.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: As you can see, alcohol consumption causes increased urination, which can lead to dehydration, thus contributing to hangovers: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/hangovers/symptoms-causes/syc-20373012
<2022-11-30T17:07:27.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: https://www.doctorkiltz.com/are-humans-carnivores/
<2022-11-30T17:07:32.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: https://facultativecarnivore.com/facultative-carnivore/chapter-5-carnivores-herbivores-and-boars-oh-my/
<2022-11-30T19:33:56.000Z> AnimeTradCath: No, Man is an Omnivore, perhaps even the only true Omnivore as we naturally prefer both plants and animals. This fact is apparent because both plants and animals appear in the overwhelming majority of all Human cultures and diets across the planet. This is a constant since the inception of Man. Man has not only survived, but thrived on a mixed diet of both plants and animals for food, and any such "refutation" of this is nothing more than a futile petite bourgeoisie reactionary critique against both the modern industrialized agricultural and food industry and against the aggressive too down push for veganism and anti-pastoralism.
<2022-11-30T21:56:49.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: If man was an omnivore, we’d have a capacity to digest fiber on par with that of swine. Fiber basically just goes in one end and out the other in humans, irritating the gut on the way out. Swine, on the other hand, can at least partially digest it. A hog can thrive on basically anything avilable - this is a true omnivore. Humans, on the other hand, suffer from a bunch of health problems, from obesity and brain fog to autoimmune issues as a result of consuming plants, and we know this because such issues resolve when plants are removed from their diet. People all over the world will do drugs when given the chance but that doesn’t mean that’s healthy for them. Man has survived on a diet of mixed animal and plant foods but he has not truly thrived on it. Judt because a diet is better than the standard American diet does not make it the healthiest diet. Quite the contrary, plants can really mess people up but are rarely ever acknowledged for doing so, although in recent years it has been starting to gain more recognition.
<2022-11-30T22:01:02.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Obesity wasn't and other comorbidities only became a problem in the United States beginning in the 90's when the USDA changed the dietary recommandations. Making assertions because you don't like vegetables doesn't disprove reality. I'm sorry that you were forced to eat broccoli as a kid.
<2022-11-30T22:03:20.000Z> AnimeTradCath: This change from a mixed Meat and Vegetable diet to a High Carb diet coupled with an increasing sedentary lifestyle is what greatly contributed to this explosion.
<2022-11-30T22:14:05.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Dolphins have a modified Ruminant digestive tract yet are carnivores, more specifically piscivores, and the Giant Panda has a digestive designed for carnivorous consumption yet exclusively eats bamboo.
<2022-11-30T22:16:27.000Z> AnimeTradCath: The fact that Humans can't digest one aspect of vegetative matter doesn't detract from the fact that vegetables are an essential part of the Human diet.
<2022-11-30T23:56:37.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: No, they were a thing known to Western people for many centuries, yet unknown to the savage peoples who did not eat plant material. It is not that I personally dislike vegetables, but that they are rather low in nutritional value for humans.
<2022-11-30T23:57:12.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Physical activity has little impact on physical health, although it can be good for mental health.
<2022-11-30T23:58:00.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: It definitely matters because clearly if we can't digest something then it's not a part of our optimal diet. Fiber gives plants structure. It's the primary component of plant matter besides water. If vegetables were such an essential part of the human diet, then why do people experience a remission in all sorts of health problems when they go on a plant-less diet?
<2022-12-01T00:00:08.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Vegetables and other plant matter are a completely unnecessary component of the human diet. They provide nothing of value that can't be obtained from animal foods. With the exception of in-season fruit, they contain a variety of substances which prohibit the human body from being able to use the nutrition contained within them, and we can't even digest them due to our inability to digest fiber. Nutritionally, they are useless except as a backup in cases of a shortage of animal-based foods.
<2022-12-01T00:12:49.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Your obstinacy doesn't negate reality.
<2022-12-01T00:18:12.000Z> AnimeTradCath: They don't and expectational doesn't disprove this in the slightest. Vegetables are not only nutritious on their own, but become even more once they are cooked.
<2022-12-01T00:36:19.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: While the dolphin digestive tract may appear to be similar to that of a ruminant, in reality it's not really similar at all. The only similarity is at first glance. The dolphins have a chamber that may in structure look like a rumen, it's actually closer to the gizzard of a bird, and they need this organ because they don't chew their food. It's not a modified ruminant digestive tract at all, having an entirely different functionality. Now as for giant pandas, they're often lumped in as having more in common with bears than they actually do, and not much is known about their digestion. What we do know is that their gut is unique among herbivores, being different in that their digestive tract does not match what one would see in foregut fermentation or hindgut fermentation, their digestive tract does contain microbes which are known for the ability to digest fiber. It's also possible that giant pandas have a significant reliance on non-structural carbohydrates for energy. They definitely don't have a carnivorous digestive system because a carnivorous species would starve on such a diet, being deprived of sufficient energy due to the inability to digest fiber, among other potential deficiencies.
<2022-12-01T00:37:19.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: All the nutrients in a vegetable can be found in animal-sourced foods, and usually in higher quantities too.
<2022-12-01T00:38:38.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/DietaryDiary/overrated-foods-fruits-vegetables
<2022-12-01T00:39:05.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: https://bengreenfieldfitness.com/article/nutrition-articles/is-fiber-bad-for-you/
<2022-12-01T00:39:17.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: https://ketonurses.wordpress.com/2017/06/16/fiber-useful-or-harmful/
<2022-12-01T00:47:00.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: You call me obstinate, and yet I've been studying human nutrition since I was around 14 or 15, with books and links to backup what I say. You don't provide anything that debunks what I've shown you.
<2022-12-01T00:47:46.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: You insist that vegetables are so nutritious and yet can't even provide an example of something that's in them which can't be obtained from animal-source foods.
<2022-12-01T00:48:07.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: And before you cite vitamin C as being in plant foods but not animal foods, I cite this:
<2022-12-01T00:53:44.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: https://sci-hub.se/https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0309174006002701
<2022-12-01T00:54:03.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Vitamin C is also known as ascorbic acid.
<2022-12-01T00:54:25.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_C
<2022-12-01T00:55:33.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Did you also know that Vitamins aren't related chemicals in any such degree and that the classification is rather arbitrary?
<2022-12-01T00:55:54.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: What?
<2022-12-01T00:56:16.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Related to what?
<2022-12-01T00:56:36.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Quit skirting around the point.
<2022-12-01T00:57:00.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Tell me just 1 nutrient in vegetables that can't be found in meat, eggs, dairy, and/or seafood.
<2022-12-01T00:57:29.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: By seafood, I mean aquatic animals like fish for instance, not aquatic vegetation.
<2022-12-01T00:58:18.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: If vegetables are really so essential to the human diet, then that has to be because the contain 1 or more nutrients that cannot be found in animal foods.
<2022-12-01T00:58:43.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: So tell me, what nutrient(s) cannot be found in animal foods?
<2022-12-01T00:59:46.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Fiber doesn't count because it's neither digestible by humans nor of any benefit due to the fact that it actually has been shown to worsen gut problems like constipation.
<2022-12-01T01:01:09.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: And it's not much of a secret to anyone who pays attention that vitamin A can only be obtained in sufficient amounts via either animal foods or supplements: http://empoweredsustenance.com/true-vitamin-a-foods/
<2022-12-01T01:03:24.000Z> AnimeTradCath: The fact that you construe a false dichotomy between you have to only eat plants, or that you only can meat shows your lack of intellectual maturity. Man being an Omnivore eats both in tandem. You may have "studied" this for close to a decade, but the jews have been studying morality for the past 5000 years, the virologists at the CDC have studied their field for several decades.
<2022-12-01T01:03:34.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Any supposed negative effects that vegetables have on the Human body can be effectively explained through other more prominent factors. The fact that you believe that physical exertion has a very minimal effect on the physical health of a person, even in contrast to the face of the most cursory paper-thin analysis, denotes your rather poor intellectual inquiry upon the matters of nutrition. Your sources are sorely wanting and as the bulk of what you have given even contradicts your very point. None of them, besides two in the most technical of terms, states that the consumption of fruits and vegetables is not only bad, but harmful to Humans. The only one that you could say that supports this notion is the last one that you sent, but even this “source” is incorrect on its most basic statements. While Humans are correctly classified as omnivores, this Ketogenicendurance purports the states that “The definition of which is an animal that can live on both plants and meat. Here in lies the problem, it makes no distinction on if they should live on both, or what combination might be best” this deliberate false dichotomy is laid out in an attempt to prove that people cannot in any way consume vegetation. This highly erroneous attempted point is fundamentally illogical as the combination of meat to plant for consumption isn’t a difficult matter to solve. Another deliberate dishonesty is the further comparison between Humans and Ruminants in an attempt to “show” how Humans cannot possibly eat plants in any way, as we don’t have a compared digestive system to that of grazing animals. As I have already pointed out is highly dishonest, as you are affectively comparing apples to tennis balls and stating that your comparison is legitimate because they are both round objects. Another deliberate error state is the stated remarks regarding the functionality of the Cecum in the Human body, or the supposed lack thereof and its “vestigial” state. The function of the Cecum differs from that of Herbivores in the same regard as the digestive system of the Dolphin differs from that of its Cetacean relatives. The Cecum absorbs water, salts, and other electrolytes from what has been consumed. While certainly different from that of its functions in other animals, it isn’t a nonfunctioning part of the Large Intestines. The fact that it doesn’t store plant material so that symbiotic bacteria can ferment such material can be easily explained by the fact that Humans, unlike any animal, cook their food before consumption. This cooking process breaks down the hard to digest structure of plants into much an easier to digest form.
<2022-12-01T01:12:13.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Any of the purported ill effects that anti-nutrients have are only harmful if taken in extreme quantities. Such quantities which is extraordinarily difficult for one to achieve when consuming a regular diet consisting of both plants and animals. To state that this natural defense mechanism presents a danger to Humans is blatantly absurd. The exact same argument can be made regarding the dangers of walking outside because you could be hit by a car. Anyone making such an argument is deliberately deceptive and an illogical charlatan.
<2022-12-01T01:12:18.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: This is not about intellectual maturity, it's about raw data. My point is that while humans can eat plants, they don't need to and plants are of little nutiritonal value for humans. Omnivores are not simply any species that can consume both plant and animal material, as I pointed out in that Facultative Carnivore link that I gave you, which you obviously didn't bother to read. Ithe CDC does not study the cause and/or development of disease, they simply do whatever their shady funders tell them to do. It's extremely dishonest to dismiss the negative effects of consuming vegetation as being due to other factors. You are crapping on all the people with all sorts of health issues that didn't resolve until they stopped eating plants. You ignored the video I gave you about non-nutritive amino acids from plant foods causing autoimmune issues. You call me names from time to time, and you're not reading my sources, beacause you're doing everything in your power to skirt around logical debate. You keep promoting the same myths that began as a way to keep people sick while thinking that they're healthy.
<2022-12-01T01:12:28.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: You're not looking at any actual data.
<2022-12-01T01:16:38.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: It doesn't matter that humans cook their food before consumption because cooking does not degrade cellulose to any significant degree, although it can reduce the concentration of antinutritional factors. You say the same stuff over and over again, as if repeating it substitutes for facts and evidence.
<2022-12-01T01:17:35.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: You keep making strawman arguments and I'm sick of talking to a brick wall when my intent was to have a logical debate, free of emotion, about raw facts and data. You've deployed a number of logical fallacies, from name-calling to the argument to moderation fallacy and strawmanning. Clearly, we are not meant to be anything more than mere friends. If ever you decide that you do want to learn about health and nutrition in humans, just tell me and I can do a link dump for you to start with.
<2022-12-01T01:19:26.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I did in fact look at your sources, and I was left wanting or bewildered as they were irrelevant in disputing me. The fact the you can't distinguish between my deliberate use of strong language to describe your side of the argument, and most importantly not you, shows that your aren't being logical in such a debate, but appealing to an emotional argument. The most surface level examination of Human Dietary habits shows a combination of both fruits, vegetables, grains, and meat across all human cultures spanning thousands of years of history. Denying this in any regards is to simply deny reality. If you don't eat vegetables as you don't like them that is your choice, but to scrounge up random deceptive sources to prove otherwise is a rather poor intellectual attempt to make an argument.
<2022-12-01T01:26:09.000Z> AnimeTradCath: The fact that you continually equate vegetative material with cellulose shows a deliberate misconstruing of the nature of plant consumption in Humans. While you are correct that Humans cannot digest cellulose, Humans don't just eat high cellulose containing vegetables, but the reproductive parts better known as fruit, plant tubers modified roots for storage, flowers and seeds. The majority of the cellulose that we would consume would come from the leaves and stems. Cellulose isn't a major component of the other parts that we eat.
<2022-12-01T03:53:46.000Z> AnimeTradCath: At no point have I made any such strawman argumentation, you stated your claim, and I attacked it accordingly. At no point did I make any ad-hominem arguments, but rather deliberately critiqued your intellectual inquiry upon the matter. At no point was my critiquing of your inquiry the sole point of my argument, nor was my strong language directed at you for the purpose of my argument, nor was it even directed at you in the first place. Regarding my supposed usage of a fallacious argument of moderation is patently false. The claim that I made is a fundamental refutation of your claim that eating plants is a fundamentally negative dietary choice ranging from directly harmful at worst to minorly disadvantages at best. My claim is not, nor ever was a comprise between two opposing points, nor did I ever regard my claim as some sort of compromise. The mere fact that you state my position as a “comprising” one between two disparate stances and that my claim is the “truthful” compromising middle between these points is fundamentally false. At no point did you show that I had made any logical fallacies in my argumentation, but only asserted such a point once you have become frustrated with me not ceding ground to your claim. The sources that you have provided to me to back your claim were at best irrelevant to the discussion and at worst contradict your claim or incomplete to wholly unreliable. Such a logically “discussion” being free from emotion was never truly going to occur at all, for I am fairly certain that you have fully attached your ego to what you have claimed since you have in your own words have “been studying human nutrition since I was around 14 or 15”. This clearly shows that you are rather invested in proving the voracity of your claims, that you have spent a considerable amount of time researching such a topic. Now I do not doubt the credibility of your claim to have researched nutrition for that amount of time, but stumbling upon various misguided, misleading, dishonest, and disingenuous articles making the most outrageous claims with very little actual evidence, beyond theatrics and emotional appeals to the readers intelligence to back up their claims demonstrated your intellectual immaturity. This is rather understandable given your age and the sunk cost fallacy that you are engaged in, as well as the fact that you have stated that you jump to rather extreme positions with various matters. To make such spurious claims regarding such matters as “incompatibility” between us from such a small spat is absurd. I wholeheartedly reject such a claim that a mere disagreement between us denotes any level of incompatibility, but rather denotes that your ego is far larger than what you may be aware of. I do not make such “scathing” claims as a matter of attack, to bruise and beat you down, be as a matter of correction. Whether your discernment changes when you are in a more proper state of mind is only a matter of your choice and is wholly out of my control. For you to make such wild assertions as you have made regarding my argumentation without showing, nor attempting to, that I have in fact attacked a strawman of your position or that I have used various fallacious arguments or that my argument was wholly attacking your character is nothing but hot air from you.
<2022-12-01T03:55:48.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Whether or not you choose to revise your position regarding my argumentation  when you are in a cooler state of mind is entirely up to you.
<2022-12-01T04:06:38.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Regarding your argument, you have not proven beyond a shadow of a doubt the voracity of your claims apart from such dietary habits being a mere personal choice regarding ones own decision.
<2022-12-01T04:13:42.000Z> AnimeTradCath: The mere fact that you claim that I have employed a fallacious use of moderation shows that you view that of meat and plant consumption as two diametrically opposed poles and any attempt to make a "compromise" between these two diametrically opposed poles denotes that you have a established a false dichotomy within mind regarding these two sources of nutrition.
<2022-12-01T04:42:31.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Regarding your claims regarding the apparent hair of supposed anti-nutrients present in a variety of vegetables. Three lines of inquiry should immediately come to mind: what are biological affects these substances have in the human body, is the outcome of these affects beneficial in any regard, are they harmful, at what quantity do these substances need to be in the Human body to become harmful, and with a standard balanced diet consisting of both plants and animals does the quantities of these substances that are consumed approach the levels that could be considered harmful and toxic. If the quantity of these substances consumed is no where the required toxicity threshold for these substances, then arguing that consuming the plants that produce the substance is an entirely disingenuous and dishonest argument. This is exactly the same as someone arguing that you shouldn't drink coffee, as there have been known medical cases of caffeine overdose. The quantity of caffeine consumed in a standardized 8 oz cup of coffee is roughly 95 mg where as the toxicity threshold is roughly 1,200 mg. It can then be logically assumed that anyone who achieves caffeine poisoning from drinking coffee has  made a deliberate attempt to poison themselves due to the sheer absurd quantity of coffee that would have to be drunk. An argument for the "purported" toxicity for coffee due to possible caffeine overdose is entirely the dishonest argument what is used against anti-nutrients. Regarding your sources, I'll deliberately state that they make such claims out of malice, regarding you ignorance. Being deceived by your own ignorance and naïvety, as well as the theatrics of a charlatan isn't something to get anger about, for it is a great unfortunate occurrence that everyone has suffered from at least one. Others many more. I myself have as well. Such a disagreement between us isn't something to be so worked up about. I apologize for the scattered nature of my response as ideas have a nature of spontaneity when the enter my mind.
<2022-12-01T18:47:23.000Z> AnimeTradCath: How are  you?
<2022-12-01T20:21:45.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I relent. I cede my position.
<2022-12-02T01:09:45.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Some pertinent information has come to my attention that requires me to retract the entirety of my statement.
<2022-12-02T04:40:35.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: What “pertinent” information?
<2022-12-02T04:45:54.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Also, quite frankly, I’m skeptical that you’d retract your statements on such short notice. It definitely tends to take me a while of studying before I do a retraction of my stances. It sounds like you trying to lie to impress me, and if there’s anything I hate a guy doing most, it’s lying to impress me.
<2022-12-02T15:56:16.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Let me clarify, I'm not ceding my position due to you convincing of any errors on my part or by proving me wrong, but rather that it has come to my attention the nature of your dietary habits. It has been revealed to me that have had a myriad of health problems that then went away when you switched to an entirely carnivorous diet. Due to this, the nature of the discussion has shifted to such a degree that requires me to retract my position.
<2022-12-02T15:58:57.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: No, it’s not even about my own health problems. That’s a separate issue.
<2022-12-02T16:01:13.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: No one heals their health problems by adding plants to their diet. They heal their health problems by taking plants out of their diet. I’m just one of many like that. Plants cause a whole bunch of issues when eaten that go away when people take them out of their diet. Plants have no real nutritional value; they are junk food, merely appealing to gluttony.
<2022-12-02T16:04:14.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: When I went carnivore, I did do it to get off of meds, and it did work for that, but I did it because I did enough research to confirm that every nutrients a person needs can be found in more than sufficient amounts in animal foods.
<2022-12-02T16:08:22.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Plants mess people up every day, and yet no one acknowledges it because they think that their condition is normal. For many centuries, type 2 diabetes and obesity have been known to Westerners but not savage people who went long periods, or even a lifetime, of not consuming vegetation. People have autoimmune issues from the consumption of vegetation. But people are also gluttonous enough to prioritize good tastes and “tradition” over being in optimal health.
<2022-12-02T16:10:26.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Doctors get paid to keep people fat and sick because a patient cured is a customer lost. Hence, rarely do most of them ever admit that people end up sick because of the plants they eat. Lots of people have brain fog and all sorts of other issues that they think are normal even though they’re caused by dietary vegetation.
<2022-12-02T16:12:56.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Thd point is, a carrot is no different from a Kit Kat, except maybe in being worse due to a higher amount of fiber.
<2022-12-02T16:15:01.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: And this applies even for people who think that they’re healthy on a diet that includes vegetation. Believe me, it’s easy to think that you’re healthy when you’re really not; to not be healthy easily becomes one’s “normal”. In fact, most people live like that, thinking that less than optimal health is “normal” because that’s all they’ve really known.
<2022-12-02T16:31:58.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I used to have insomnia that required me to either take melatonin or drink chamomile tea, and after I took plants out of my diet I didn’t need chamomile tea or melatonin anymore. Through research and self experimentation, I found that a product that said something like “made on equipment that is also shared with soy” put me in so much pain that I collapsed onto the floor like a guy who suffered a blow to the family jewels. I basically thought that I was just unlucky, and yet little did I know that all I had to do was stop eating plants. Just think of how many people suffer from crappy health due to the consumption of vegetation and yet don’t know it because they think that their condition is unavoidable. I used to be one of those people. I didn’t know that insomnia could be cured by diet, or that traces of soy could put me in so much pain. You may think that my case sounds “extreme”, that it’s an exception to the rule, but that’s such a short-sighted view. I was simply lucky enough to find out that plants are nutritionally useless at best, and to be determined enough to quit them cold turkey. I kmow that I am only one of many whose health suffered without realizing that it was due to plants. I insist that people go a while without vegetation in their diet (at least like 90 days) before concluding that it doesn’t cause them any issues. Oftentimes, what we think is just a quirk of our body is really us being harmed by plant defense chemicals and/or too many carbs (both fiber and net carbs).
<2022-12-02T16:39:22.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Plant foods are addictive. I know it can be hard to quit, but the fact is that people eat plants and many maintain enough health to get by, but they are not as healthy as they could be. Some problems caused by the consumption of plants don’t even manifest until many decades have gone by of having eaten them. People get senile because they ate too many carbs in their lifetime. Plants are the primary source of carbs in the human diet. Both in the short term and long term, plants are no good. They have no nutritional value that can’t be obtained from elsewhere, and they poison people both in the long term and short term. People think that being poisoned by plants is normal, as I and many others once did.
<2022-12-02T16:40:30.000Z> AnimeTradCath: It is an actual significant point of contention, as you're arguing from an emotional position due to your own personal situation. Your argument is thus, I ate a mixed diet and suffered from a multitude of health problems. I changed my diet to that of a carnivorous diet and these problems went away. My health was greatly improved so therefore this must be as beneficial to everyone as it has been for me. Such an argument is fundamentally illogical, as I can use the same line of logic to prove that a lifestyle of heavy drinking and smoking is in fact benign, as I can find an expectational case of a Man dying from in his 90's while being wholly unaffected by his heavy drinking and smoking. What is optimal for you, isn't optimal for everyone. Not everyone is subjected to the same genetic and environmental conditions that you, or your family has been. In fact the health problems that you had not everyone suffers from them, nor are predisposed to suffer from them. The fact that you openly compare a taproot that has been cultivated for hundreds of years to that of a highly processed and refined product that only can exist due to modern machinery and innovation just further reveals your emotional position that you currently have. I fully understand your defensive and emotional position given your history, but I will reiterate, what is optimal for your health isn't always optimal for everyone else's health. 
<2022-12-02T16:40:37.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: That’s why I’m against eating plants. It has nothing to do with ridiculous philosophies as do the arguments of vegans, but rather the objective fact that people are so used to eating plants that they don’t even recognize when plants harm their health.
<2022-12-02T16:42:35.000Z> AnimeTradCath: My point is what benefited you, doesn't benefit everyone. Not that plants are only what you eat, or that meat is bad, but what is optimal for your own health isn't always the optimal choice for everyone's health.
<2022-12-02T16:42:46.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: It’s not emotional at all. I’m only one of many people whose health suffered from the consumption of plants, and one of the few who recognized it. Different people may have a tolerance for different chemicals in their food, but there is a single species-wide diet that is optimal for every human.
<2022-12-02T16:43:50.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: We hardly even digest plants, and if you don’t believe me, just ask anyone who has had a colonoscopy bag - they end up seeing vegetation chunks in there but no meat chunks.
<2022-12-02T16:44:22.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: If we don’t eat steel or tree bark because we can’t digest it, why should we eat plants?
<2022-12-02T16:46:31.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: A plant-less diet does benefit everyone, it’s just that not everyone realizes it due to never having tried it, so they think that if they have any issues then it’s just normal. Sometimes health issues are relatively subtle - not all have really blatant ones like epilepsy or autoimmune issues. Some have more subtle ones, like brain fog and insomnia, that can easily seem to be normal and “healthy”.
<2022-12-02T16:50:38.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Research has been starting to, once again, uncover how plant consumption actually harm people, like that one study that Dr. Ken Berry was talking about regarding non-nutritive amino acids in plant foods and autoimmune issues.
<2022-12-02T16:54:01.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Not everyone is suffers from the same health conditions that you have been suffered from, so what you have done to improve your health, doesn't necessarily apply to someone's health.
<2022-12-02T16:54:32.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: That’s not the point. That’s completely irrelevant.
<2022-12-02T16:55:03.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I'm not doubting such evidence that most likely states the possibility for people to be harmed, but your condition isn't everyone's.
<2022-12-02T16:55:25.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: This isn’t about me. It’s about the fact that most people are used to not being as healthy as they could be that they think they’re already healthy. They’ve never known anything different.
<2022-12-02T16:56:48.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: People have moms who eat plants while they’re in the womb, they’re weaned onto plants in toddlerhood or earlier, they spend a lifetime eating plants. They don’t know what the plants are doing to them. They think that all sorts of stuff is just a quirk of their body, when in reality it’s actually something that would go away if they stopped eating plants.
<2022-12-02T16:59:30.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: If people refrained from eating plants and then, as adults, slowly reintroduced plants one-by-one into their diet then we would have a better idea of just how many people are being poisoned by plants wirhout realizing it.
<2022-12-02T17:01:27.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Again your individual circumstances aren't applicable across the board. I agree that not everyone is as healthy as they can be, but that doesn't mean that the solution to your problem isn't the solution to every problem.
<2022-12-02T17:01:36.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: But when you go your whole life of eating plants, you can have health problems that you had no idea about because you just thought that it’s normal. Lots of people are like that. This isn’t emotion, this is just logic - if you do something for your entire life, then whatever effects it has seem like a given.
<2022-12-02T17:02:06.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Actually, yes they are. I am only one of many, an increasing number in fact.
<2022-12-02T17:05:16.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Here, you can see some of the anecdotes of people who cured themselves by ridding their diet of plants: http://meatheals.com/
<2022-12-02T17:07:33.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: The sad thing is that most people think that their condition is healthy because they don’t have any issues that are really blatant like I did (for me, epilepsy), so they just learn to live with being in less-than-optimal health. The few people who have anecdotes like mine are few simply because we went against the diet that we were raised to eat.
<2022-12-02T17:09:48.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Most people think that it’s crazy or stupid, if not both, to not eat plants. They think that plants are necessary, that plants contain nutrition that cannot be obtained from animal foods. So they never try a plant-free diet, and as such they never manage to learn the subtle ways that plants harm their health. Many of these people end up like Joe Biden when they’re old, and still never manage to connect the dots that their diet is what got them like that.
<2022-12-02T17:19:07.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: It’s intellectually dishonest to dismiss this point as “maybe that applies to you, but not most or all people”. There is very good reason to believe that most people are merely accustomed to being in a state of crappy health due to a diet that they never deviated from. I’m not kidding, it is VERY easy to dismiss food sensitivities as having nothing to do with the consumption of a given food, especially in a country where the overwhelmingly dominant philosophy of “medicine” is “plants are healthy, so you’re fine unless you have something really unignorable like epilepsy or autoimmune issues; just take a prescription and you’ll be fine. It’s really rare for plants to ever cause health issues, because a health issue is only real if it’s something that’s too blatant for one to just learn to live with as if nothing is happening”.
<2022-12-02T17:21:59.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Have you heard of Plato’s cave?
<2022-12-02T17:25:17.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: It’s sort of like that in that people who have only known one thing for their entire life can’t really imagine how different things could be from that one thing. The people who lived their whole lives in the cave only know the shadows dancing on the cave wall; to them, that is all there is of the world. The people who have found that the carnivore diet improved their health are amongst the few who crawled out of that cave, reaching a new baseline of health in realizing that what they knew of the cave of unhealth was not the real healthiness even though it seemed like it to them at one point due to not ever knowing any different, ascending to the surface world of optimal health.
<2022-12-02T17:27:26.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: To the cave dwellers, the cave of unhealth is healthy because they have never known anything healthier than that. They think that they’re healthy, and yet they’re not. The cave dwellers think that they know the world as it is, and yet there is more than they know because they never bothered to leave the cave.
<2022-12-02T17:55:19.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Yes, I am entirely aware of Plato's allegory of the Cave
<2022-12-02T18:02:24.000Z> AnimeTradCath: While the evidence that you have seen, as well as the anecdotes that you have linked may all be 100% true. Not everyone is subjected to the same environmental conditions and have the same genetic predispositions. Even if these are completely identical conditions that two people are subjected to, how the their body reacts and how things are expressed can still differ dramatically. While you are using logic the emotionality of your argument is due to your defensive and obstinate disposition. Your argument is also fundamentally a Liberal one, related to the Liberal notion that All Men are Created Equal. It is also related to the Vegan argument, in fact it's the same one just from the opposite direction. In fact most of their argumentation is from personal experience based upon their own health improvement from not eating meat. While your health drastically improved from not eating vegetables, doesn't denote that vegetables are in anyway a negative towards everyone. Most Europeans are Lactose Tolerant past childhood, but that doesn't mean everyone drinking raw milk while provide all the same benefits that it does for Europeans.
<2022-12-02T18:03:19.000Z> AnimeTradCath: The fact that you wish to help everyone is a noble thing, but not every problem is a nail that needs a hammer.
<2022-12-02T18:05:25.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: My argument is that all men are the same species, and in all being the same species they all have a common optimal human diet. They may have different tolerance levels for different plant defense chemicals based on both race and individual genetics, but tolerance does not equate to being optimal. Lactose doesn’t really have a major benefit even for the ethnic groups which have it, and those which don’t can simply ferment their milk to rid it of lactose before consuming it, as the Monogls did.
<2022-12-02T18:06:17.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Even the ethnic groups that have lactase persistence don’t really have much to gain from consumption of lactose.
<2022-12-02T18:08:40.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: All horses eat grass. Some, due to being subject to the intense pressure of natural selection, have lower protein and energy needs than do others. All horses need the same nutrients, just in different amounts depending on what they were bred for.
<2022-12-02T18:12:20.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: A thoroughbred is bred for speed, so naturally they need more energy and protein in order to function. They’re prone to having trouble keeping their weight up without grain. A British Shetland pony, on the other hand, is prone to obesity due to selection pressure for the ability to withstand months of little feed at all, with what little can be found being of rather low nutritional value.
<2022-12-02T18:14:23.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: So, for a British Shetland pony, all the carbs in grain that help a thoroughbred keep their weight up cause health problems like equine diabetes, obesity, and laminitis.
<2022-12-02T18:19:12.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Both a thoroughbred and a British Shetland Pony are strict herbivores. They both are hindgut fermenters, and as such need a high-fiber diet. The thoroughbred tolerates higher amounts of net carbs due to having been bred for speed, life in a stable, and being fed grain, while the British Shetland pony needs more fiber and less net carbs in order to keep from having health problems that result from eating too many net carbs. The species-wide nutritional requirements of the domestic horse remain the same, even if some breeds need more or less feed and net carbs per unit of bodyweight than do others.
<2022-12-02T18:23:55.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: The difference is, actually, largely due to the fact that ponies chew their food more, thus exposing more surface area of it to microbes in their hindgut. 
<2022-12-02T18:27:00.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: The result is that a pony gets more energy per unit of feed than do other horses. Nutrients that get digested by a pony simply don’t get put to use in other horses, with the possible exception of feeding hindgut microbes rather than the pony itself.
<2022-12-02T18:27:45.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: The result is that a pony gets more energy per unit of feed than do other horses. Nutrients that get digested by a pony simply don’t get put to use in other horses, with the possible exception of feeding hindgut microbes rather than the equine itself.
<2022-12-02T18:32:00.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Human ethnic groups are similar. Asians have a strong tolerance for rice. This doesn’t mean that rice is the optimal diet for them, just that they can tolerate it. They still have the same nutritional requirements as any other race, but they can tolerate some environmental stressors that other ethnic groups don’t tolerate as well, just like how a pony can survive on less food than horse of a breed that was bred for speed over survival.
<2022-12-02T18:57:53.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Man isn't a totality of One species, but a multitude of directly related sub-species. This diversification isn't expressed in a superficial manner, but is intrinsic to Man and his nature, as it is most apparent when you study the development of Man through history. Even if Man was a single species , the variations in environment that he has adapted to and multitude of cultures that he expresses has divided Men substantially. This idea is a modern Liberal one. It may not have been explicit throughout the ages, but is very much felt implicitly. Man isn't a singular species, but a plurality of related Races that are organized hierarchically, Europeans and other Aryans, followed by Orientals, then the rest of the Savage Races.
<2022-12-02T18:58:48.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Your idea that Man merely tolerates plants may be true for you, but it isn't intrinsic to Man at all 
<2022-12-02T19:00:32.000Z> AnimeTradCath: On an unrelated note, I never at any point regarded your obstinate disposition as a negative.
<2022-12-02T19:01:05.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I myself am naturally obstinate, and was significantly more so in my youth.
<2022-12-02T19:06:56.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: You can’t just say that biology is liberal equality crap. I mean you can, but it’s no different than saying that a dude who cuts off his penis is a woman. Man does merely tolerate plants, and it’s not true for me but true for man as a species. Just because it hasn’t been widely recognized yet doesn’t change that. Subspecies have small variations but they do not differ in digestive anatomy or in nutritional needs; otherwise they’d be an entirely different species.
<2022-12-02T19:08:02.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I give up. Nothing I say gets through to you. I could give you a mountain of sources that cite studies that prove what I say and I can ELI5 stuff for you, and yet it goes in one ear and out the other.
<2022-12-02T19:09:05.000Z> AnimeTradCath: That's not what I am saying. Dogs are closer genetically to wolves than Africans are to everyone else.
<2022-12-02T19:09:53.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Again, what has benefited you and your health doesn't necessarily mean that it will have the same effect for everyone.
<2022-12-02T19:12:07.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Dogs ARE wolves.
<2022-12-02T19:12:25.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: They’re just a different race of wolf with their own subraces.
<2022-12-02T19:12:37.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Everything that you've said isn't going in one ear and out the other. All your evidence is legitimate, and I have looked at most of it the stuff from today I haven't because I am work. 
<2022-12-02T19:13:30.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Yes, but despite the diversity of dog breeds they are closer to wolves than Africans are to everyone else 
<2022-12-02T19:17:56.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Despite our disagreements, this doesn't denote incompatibility 
<2022-12-02T20:45:51.000Z> AnimeTradCath: You certainly weren't wrong about your neuroticism and ocd.
<2022-12-03T02:50:27.000Z> AnimeTradCath: What was the link to de Maistre's works again?
<2022-12-03T03:29:32.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Here: http://maistre.uni.cx/
<2022-12-03T03:31:31.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Thank you!
<2022-12-03T03:31:52.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: No problem. Sharing megabased stuff is what I do.
<2022-12-03T03:32:41.000Z> AnimeTradCath: How'd you come to find his works
<2022-12-03T03:32:55.000Z> AnimeTradCath: he isn't too well known today
<2022-12-03T03:33:51.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Being a reactionary who wanted to cite another reactionary for a description of reactionary ideology.
<2022-12-03T03:34:38.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I went looking for books and sources to show others what reactionary ideology is and is about.
<2022-12-03T03:35:09.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Naturally, his name came up, I looked it up, and ya gotta admit, the dude was pretty based.
<2022-12-03T03:40:33.000Z> AnimeTradCath: Who else have you read?
<2022-12-03T03:41:14.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I've listened to some stuff from E. Micheal Jones.
<2022-12-03T03:43:14.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I have his book Barren Metal, although I haven't read it yet
<2022-12-03T03:43:38.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I know a lot of his books are good history books at the very minimum
<2022-12-06T17:28:23.000Z> AnimeTradCath: How are you doing?
<2022-12-06T20:59:40.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Same as usual. But like I said, I don’t think that we are meant to be anything more than friends, just to be clear.
<2022-12-07T13:02:13.000Z> AnimeTradCath: I wholly disagree based on the reasons that you give
<2022-12-11T01:51:36.000Z> AnimeTradCath: How are you?