<2021-01-21T02:23:51.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: The legitimate objection is that an America First instance is RED hot.  I don't know if you know instance blocking but it's a thing.  The RadFem instance spinster.xyz for example is blocked by many of the normie ones like mastodon.social.  Funnily enough... my instance, FSE.com isn't.  FSE doesn't block any instances though so that's why I think I landed on a good one.An instance that's made for Groypers makes it easy for mainstream ones and possibly even some of the lolberts (and the RadFem one) to just block us in one go because "we're Nazis."  It's the same shit as when the they tried to fork Gab onto the Fediverse and there was that big shit show to block Gab.Groypers can all join various "free speech" instances that still filter into the more "polite" parts of the fedi.  Not that that even matters.  The "polite" fediverse is fucking dead.
<2021-01-21T02:24:06.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: I actually don't want the groypers here.
<2021-01-21T02:24:29.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: Because I like the culture here more than the stuff I've been dealing with in the movement.
<2021-01-21T02:25:15.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: I like that there are 4000-5000 character limits here and I can have long drawn out autistic conversations without some faggot trying to shut me down and saying "WHY CAN'T YOU JUST VIBE PONY?"
<2021-01-21T02:26:15.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: I like that people here aren't anime hating retards and there are tonnes of anime avis.
<2021-01-21T02:26:30.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: Nope.  There's lots of legit weebs here.  The worst kind as well.
<2021-01-21T02:26:51.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: Do you know why there are so many Japanese accounts when you check The Whole Known Network?
<2021-01-21T02:27:08.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: It's because all the Japanese hentai artists moved after Twitter clamped down on lolicon.
<2021-01-21T02:28:08.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: That's supposedly a big reason why Torba didn't end up forking Gab over to the Fediverse.
<2021-01-21T02:29:16.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: The anime thing is just an aside though.
<2021-01-21T02:29:38.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: Ah of course.
<2021-01-21T02:30:22.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: Lmao.  Careful who you tell that to.
<2021-01-21T02:30:47.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: Not a fan of femboys but I'm not going to making a big deal of it.
<2021-01-21T02:30:55.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: I've discovered this fediverse tradition of "hell threads."  Which is just like... really prolonged threads with tonnes of people participating and typing out essayposts.
<2021-01-21T02:31:05.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: And I've enjoyed it.
<2021-01-21T02:31:19.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: Compared to the bullshit I've had to deal with in the various Discords.
<2021-01-21T02:32:03.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: That's just it though... I'm not going from Twitter to Fediverse.  I'm going from Discord to the Fediverse.
<2021-01-21T02:32:16.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: The Discords are so fucking boring.
<2021-01-21T02:32:51.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: The Discords are Reddit-tier.  People who don't like you will "upvote" the retort reply to you.
<2021-01-21T02:33:16.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: 4chan has some fleshed out discussion and Twitter has smart people that pretend to be dumb.
<2021-01-21T02:33:29.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: I love that PaulTown is here and we were able to talk about music.
<2021-01-21T02:34:02.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: I don't know what it is about AF but it seems to want to force this culture of being a retarrd.
<2021-01-21T02:35:23.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: Oh yeah.  I knew that "in theory" federated internet was the future.  But when I made an account in 2019 I didn't know wtf I was meant to do because the whole thing was dead.
<2021-01-21T02:35:40.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: Which is to say... the mastodon.social instance was dead.
<2021-01-21T02:36:56.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: But I didn't know that the use of different server software like Pleroma meant you could use markup languages and you could have 5000 character posts and higher file size limits.
<2021-01-21T02:38:57.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: Exactly.  It the best of two worlds.  4chan and Twitter.  It's the wild west frontier of 4chan that doesn't have the gay censorship of Twitter.  But it still relies on identifiable accounts and instances which means I'm not just replying to shills.
<2021-01-21T02:39:51.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: Same.
<2021-01-21T02:40:17.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: I'd prefer it if the rest of AF just thought I was being a dumb Panda fucking around with my lame Twitter knock off.
<2021-01-21T02:40:25.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: Not at all.
<2021-01-21T02:40:46.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: The fediverse is fucking awesome. 
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<2021-01-21T02:42:21.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: You can sort of see a difference in attitude though.  You have people like Auti here who think it's just a knock off Twitter.  Every day they'll shoot out a volley of retarded hornyposts.  He doesn't reply to interesting conversations.  His only replies are calling people in his circlejerk of friends gay.
<2021-01-21T02:42:58.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: Yeah.  Fair.
<2021-01-21T02:43:10.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: Yup.
<2021-01-21T02:44:10.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: Dick Masterson was shilling the Fediverse on The Ralph Retort last night.  But he made the marketing mistake of selling "features and not benefits."
<2021-01-21T02:44:59.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: He just talked about the Fediverse in the same "theoretical" way I thought about the fediverse when I first read up on it.  He was posting a bit and I even replied to a question he had.
<2021-01-21T02:45:36.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: You're exactly right.  That's what hellthreads are.  Just tag a bunch of people and let the words flow.
<2021-01-21T02:45:42.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: Yeah.
<2021-01-21T02:46:39.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: I'm worried that one day... 10k groypers will be here out of nowhere.
<2021-01-21T02:47:29.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: Ahhhh... I never thought it would happen to me >_<
<2021-01-21T02:47:33.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: And they'll see that I've "gone native" and am essayposting in hellthreads and using all manner of big words and turns of phrase.
<2021-01-21T02:47:53.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: I don't know much about the admin of poa.st.
<2021-01-21T02:48:09.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: He's supposedly a friend of Auti though.
<2021-01-21T02:48:21.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: And Paul Town is on poa.st as well.
<2021-01-21T02:49:11.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: Ahh.
<2021-01-21T02:49:25.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: I would hope that the groypers trickle in gradually so that they can assimilate.  It's like border policy.
<2021-01-21T02:51:52.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: That was what I was thinking at first as well.  It'd be our own little Twitter clubhouse.  We might be blocked by tonnes of networks but we all have each other right?
<2021-01-21T02:52:03.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: That's not what anybody would want.
<2021-01-21T02:52:35.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: Yeah.
<2021-01-21T02:52:57.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: I'd like to keep up on all the Patrick Casey memes and deepfakes that go around on Twitter though.
<2021-01-21T02:53:46.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: That's just it.  I'll agree that Twitter is where they want to be and where I want them to be.
<2021-01-21T02:54:10.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: Yeah.  If normie politicians are using Twitter, ourguys can criticize them and ratio them for being retards.
<2021-01-21T02:54:32.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: Dick Masterson brought up an interesting point though...
<2021-01-21T02:54:46.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: It's something like 5% of Twitter that drives traffic.
<2021-01-21T02:55:03.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: 5% of the Twitter population are creating the content.
<2021-01-21T02:55:17.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: Yeah.
<2021-01-21T02:56:33.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: Until the fediverse is adopted by politicians and relevant public figures... there's no "offensive" advantage to being on it.  It's strictly "defensive" and there to keep flame alive.
<2021-01-21T02:56:42.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: The fediverse is better than Telegram though.
<2021-01-21T02:58:20.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: But Patrick Casey and Michelle Malking are trying to use Telegram like Twitter by turning comments on.
<2021-01-21T02:59:15.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: You know what I would love?
<2021-01-21T03:00:01.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: If Patrick Casey joined the Fedi and he made the sort of posts he'd make on Telegram.  Maybe even closer to what he'd write up on subscribestar.
<2021-01-21T03:01:11.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: He'd have posts of substance.  The dumbshit groypers would make their "hurr do the stanky leg. play nekopara lol" posts but the more thoughtful ones would engage with Patrick, Patrick would engage with them and then we'd have a social dynamic where not being a retard is rewarded.
<2021-01-21T03:01:28.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: lmao no.
<2021-01-21T03:01:43.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: Did you see the Atavism account?
<2021-01-21T03:01:53.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: Do you not see how he raids Discord?
<2021-01-21T03:02:26.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: An introverted guy who enjoys time alone does not become the leader of two identitarian organizations lmao.
<2021-01-21T03:03:07.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: Patrick LOVES trolling.
<2021-01-21T03:03:54.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: Patrick is "tapped in" to that same vein of "extremely online" Twitter with Paul Town, Bronze Age Pervert, Logo Daedelus, Mike Ma, Kantbot etc.
<2021-01-21T03:05:08.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: I agree entirely.  I was one of the first people that Kantbot banned when he went full faggot.
<2021-01-21T03:05:24.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: Yeah.. they've all let their e-fame get to them.
<2021-01-21T03:05:45.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: I'm just using them as a reference point.
<2021-01-21T03:06:21.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: But that's because they're actual leaders and not just Twitter personalities.
<2021-01-21T03:06:27.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: Paul Town is based.
<2021-01-21T03:07:23.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: Nick and Patrick feel a sense of urgency more than those other guys and are trying to do something to save America.  And they lead.  They shoulder the burden of leadership.
<2021-01-21T03:07:50.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: I never got to talk with him the last time I was on Twitter.
<2021-01-21T03:08:34.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: I think I can guess because they[d be the same things I don't likle.
<2021-01-21T03:09:05.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: No no.  We're not going to make this a Nick bitchfest.
<2021-01-21T03:09:44.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: I'm pretty sure it's the same.  That's why we follow Patrick.
<2021-01-21T03:10:05.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: That's what shits me though...
<2021-01-21T03:10:19.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: I don't know why Patrick's Discord is so retarded.
<2021-01-21T03:10:45.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: I don't know why the people who set the tone to be retarded gravitate to Patrick.
<2021-01-21T03:11:37.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: Like... two guests Patrick had on his show, Ryan Dawson (whom I already follow) and Victor Bulmer-Thomas were AMAZING.  But none of those idiots could appreciate it.
<2021-01-21T03:13:02.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: Patrick doesn't present a cretinous image.  He chooses his words carefully.  He doesn't speak in pure slang vernacular.  He's a considerate and nuanced guy who isn't afraid to wear his brain on his sleeve.
<2021-01-21T03:13:47.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: Even when he's mudslinging during Discord raids, he does it wearing the persona of a proud, dismissive intellectual and he can play the part.
<2021-01-21T03:14:42.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: Yeah.  I haven't seen Patrick pull out a knife on stream.
<2021-01-21T03:15:25.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: Nothing against them... but streamers like Woozuh and Jaden are more the type I would think that the people I'm having issues with should be around.
<2021-01-21T03:15:52.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: Lmao... Nick is based.
<2021-01-21T03:16:12.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: I'm convinced the anti-China shills are Jews trying to deflect.
<2021-01-21T03:16:44.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: Sorry... I was saying this in reference to Nick's livestream.
<2021-01-21T03:18:46.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: The more boisterous types.
<2021-01-21T03:19:03.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: The kinds of people who aren't into Asian Fusion cuisine.
<2021-01-21T03:19:37.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: I don't want to come across as a snob or anything.
<2021-01-21T03:20:10.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: I'm just recognizing that I don't get along with many of the people around the movement.
<2021-01-21T03:20:30.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: Thank you.
<2021-01-21T03:21:13.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: I legitimately wonder is there's like... some COINTELPRO effort to make dissident spaces dumb.
<2021-01-21T03:22:00.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: Oh cool!
<2021-01-21T03:22:20.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: It was based on my schizo paranoia about some of the people I see around the movement who seem to want to stifle conversation.
<2021-01-21T03:22:30.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: Ohhh... you too?
<2021-01-21T03:23:43.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: The bit about it becoming a co-dependent social club?
<2021-01-21T03:24:15.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: Ahhh... you might be giving my schizo theory too much credence.
<2021-01-21T03:25:04.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: It might just be that there are just lots of dumb shits out there.  But... it's still something to consider.  I hate the fact that fuckwits in the movement fuel these stupid beefs when that's exactly the sort of vector the feds would go after.
<2021-01-21T03:25:46.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: I think... TBased got publicly shamed by nick a few weeks before the SPLC article that named him as the biggest donor.
<2021-01-21T03:26:14.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: But I don't think in the time between getting shamed by Nick and named by the SPLC, TBased was getting harassed by anybody.
<2021-01-21T03:26:28.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: 4chan is nothing but demoralization.
<2021-01-21T03:26:35.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: And misdirection.
<2021-01-21T03:26:41.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: Shills everywhere
<2021-01-21T03:27:42.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: That's just it.  Nick gave him the appropriate measure of chastisement for his indiscretions.
<2021-01-21T03:28:00.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: That's really retarded.
<2021-01-21T03:28:37.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: What TBased did -was- pretty shameful but after Nick shamed him... that's all that needs to be said.
<2021-01-21T03:29:08.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: Jaden and his mods go pretty far.
<2021-01-21T03:29:39.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: If somebody goes to jail for their crime... you have no right to punish them after they've done their sentences.
<2021-01-21T03:31:23.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: I don't want to seem mendacious and suggest we should be beholden to anybody who throws lots of money at us.  But I do think that TBased deserves better than the way he was treated because he made sacrifices for us.
<2021-01-21T03:32:35.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: Exactly.
<2021-01-21T03:33:10.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: Even if TBased never droped another cent or lemon on our guys... I wouldn't abuse him.
<2021-01-21T03:34:50.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: Back to the subject at hand... there were people who were nobodies who were abusing TBased in the Discord and the chat.
<2021-01-21T03:35:14.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: People I'd never seen before.
<2021-01-21T03:43:19.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: Hmm.
<2021-01-21T03:46:45.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: Lmao.
<2021-01-21T03:48:54.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: That meme actually came from Logo Daedelus.  He used that as an example of the cope that you can expect from Qoomers in the years to come.  It was on Aimee Terese's podcast.
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<2021-01-21T03:51:30.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: omfg... FSE is still down.
<2021-01-21T03:51:42.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: It was meant to be working 12 hours ago.
<2021-01-21T03:52:00.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: Yeah
<2021-01-21T03:55:08.000Z> PonyPanda@shitposter.club: I'd assume so.